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Google purchases Nest for $3.2 billion
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/13/53...or-3-2-billion
Google has just purchased Nest Labs, the maker of the Nest Learning Thermostat and Protect smoke detector, for $3.2 billion in cash. According to a Google press release, Nest will continue to operate independently under the leadership of co-founder and CEO Tony Fadell; co-founder Matt Rogers will also make the move to Google. While the transaction is subject to the usual regulatory review, Google says it expects the sale to close within the next few months.
It's not yet clear exactly how Google plans to use Nest, but the company obviously sees it as an important part of its future. A combination of Nest's home solutions coupled with Google's language recognition could give Google its strongest path yet into your home.
Nest has published a Q&A with Rogers that reveals some detail on how this new partnership will change things with the company. For starters, Nest confirms that it'll continue to support Apple and iOS products going forward — not a huge surprise, given that Google's been putting out solid versions of its apps and services for iOS for some time now. Warranties will stay the same, and Nest products will still continue to be sold at retail (though there's no word on whether or not they'll be on sale at Apple stores).
Unsurprisingly, the company is remaining coy about how it'll integrate with Google's existing product lineup. "Nest's product line obviously caught the attention of Google and I'm betting that there's a lot of cool stuff we could do together, but nothing to share today," writes Rogers. He did address any potential concerns about Nest's customer data being opened up to Google for advertising or other purposes. "Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest's products and services," writes Rogers. "We've always taken privacy seriously and this will not change."
Interview with Nest co-founder Matt Rogers at CES 2014.
Google CEO Larry Page said the following in a statement:
Nest’s founders, Tony Fadell and Matt Rogers, have built a tremendous team that we are excited to welcome into the Google family. They’re already delivering amazing products you can buy right now--thermostats that save energy and smoke/CO alarms that can help keep your family safe. We are excited to bring great experiences to more homes in more countries and fulfill their dreams!
Nest CEO Tony Fadell's statement on the purchase:
We’re thrilled to join Google. With their support, Nest will be even better placed to build simple, thoughtful devices that make life easier at home, and that have a positive impact on the world."
It's not yet clear exactly how Google plans to use Nest, but the company obviously sees it as an important part of its future. A combination of Nest's home solutions coupled with Google's language recognition could give Google its strongest path yet into your home.
Nest has published a Q&A with Rogers that reveals some detail on how this new partnership will change things with the company. For starters, Nest confirms that it'll continue to support Apple and iOS products going forward — not a huge surprise, given that Google's been putting out solid versions of its apps and services for iOS for some time now. Warranties will stay the same, and Nest products will still continue to be sold at retail (though there's no word on whether or not they'll be on sale at Apple stores).
Unsurprisingly, the company is remaining coy about how it'll integrate with Google's existing product lineup. "Nest's product line obviously caught the attention of Google and I'm betting that there's a lot of cool stuff we could do together, but nothing to share today," writes Rogers. He did address any potential concerns about Nest's customer data being opened up to Google for advertising or other purposes. "Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest's products and services," writes Rogers. "We've always taken privacy seriously and this will not change."
Interview with Nest co-founder Matt Rogers at CES 2014.
Google CEO Larry Page said the following in a statement:
Nest’s founders, Tony Fadell and Matt Rogers, have built a tremendous team that we are excited to welcome into the Google family. They’re already delivering amazing products you can buy right now--thermostats that save energy and smoke/CO alarms that can help keep your family safe. We are excited to bring great experiences to more homes in more countries and fulfill their dreams!
Nest CEO Tony Fadell's statement on the purchase:
We’re thrilled to join Google. With their support, Nest will be even better placed to build simple, thoughtful devices that make life easier at home, and that have a positive impact on the world."
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Cool, so next version will run Android and mine is .
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Can't wait to see north face ads when it's cold in the house.
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damnit...
Now google will want a set of your house keys and your SS # to use these products.
Now google will want a set of your house keys and your SS # to use these products.
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I have to admit that starting a company that makes a thermostat and flipping it 4 years later for $3.2 bil is genius.
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So, how does this work with existing wired detectors? I don't think you can take out an wired smoke and replace it with a nest, can you? Meaning, will all the other non-nest devices work? I thought I read somewhere that all smokes have to be the same so they can talk to one another.
If that's the case, this is a non-starter as I have 10 smoke alarms in the house.
If that's the case, this is a non-starter as I have 10 smoke alarms in the house.
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So, how does this work with existing wired detectors? I don't think you can take out an wired smoke and replace it with a nest, can you? Meaning, will all the other non-nest devices work? I thought I read somewhere that all smokes have to be the same so they can talk to one another.
If that's the case, this is a non-starter as I have 10 smoke alarms in the house.
If that's the case, this is a non-starter as I have 10 smoke alarms in the house.
Hell, I only have 4 detectors...and I have no plans to change out the other 3 at the moment. Granted, interconnect is NOT an issue for my place..makes more sense in a multi level home.
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NEST stock up 1,900% on news of Google acquisition.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101343245
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101343245
Earlier this week we witnessed a pretty awesome refutation of super strong versions of the Efficient Capital Markets Hypothesis.
Google announced its multi-billion dollar acquisition of Nest Labs, which makes stuff like internet-connected smoke alarms and thermostats.
As that happened, a company trading under the symbol NEST shot up 1,900 percent. The problem is that company, Nestor, has nothing to do with the company Google bought. Nestor is an empty shell that's been in receivership since 2009.
The blogger who styles himself KidDynamite brought this to the attention of those of us who follow him. And we all had another occasion to chuckle wisely about the foolishness of the notion that all securities always priced correctly. William Alden, of DealBook, somehow produced a rather straight-faced report on all this. He even explained what the company attached to the ticker NEST once did.
Google announced its multi-billion dollar acquisition of Nest Labs, which makes stuff like internet-connected smoke alarms and thermostats.
As that happened, a company trading under the symbol NEST shot up 1,900 percent. The problem is that company, Nestor, has nothing to do with the company Google bought. Nestor is an empty shell that's been in receivership since 2009.
The blogger who styles himself KidDynamite brought this to the attention of those of us who follow him. And we all had another occasion to chuckle wisely about the foolishness of the notion that all securities always priced correctly. William Alden, of DealBook, somehow produced a rather straight-faced report on all this. He even explained what the company attached to the ticker NEST once did.
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Nest Stops Selling 'Protect' Smoke Detectors Over Safety Concerns
Thursday April 3, 2014 2:43 pm PDT by Juli Clover
Nest CEO Tony Fadell today published an open letter on the Nest.com blog announcing that effective immediately, the company is going to temporarily cease selling its multi-sensor iPhone-connected Nest Protect: Smoke + Carbon Monoxide alarm, which was first introduced in October.
According to Fadell, a recent laboratory test revealed that Nest Wave, a feature that enables the device's alarm to be turned off with a gesture, could potentially be used to turn off an alarm unintentionally, thus delaying the activation of the alarm in a real fire.
The company is immediately disabling the Nest Wave feature until the issue is resolved and while a fix is being worked on, sales of new Nest Protect alarms have been halted. Nest urges customers with existing alarms to connect them to a Nest Account (if they are not already connected) so the Nest Wave feature can be automatically disabled. Customers without access to WiFi can receive a complete refund for their devices.
Nest states that no customers have been affected by the potential issues with Nest Wave and that the steps it has taken to halt sales are a precautionary measure. The company estimates that fixing the issue will take two to three months.
Thursday April 3, 2014 2:43 pm PDT by Juli Clover
Nest CEO Tony Fadell today published an open letter on the Nest.com blog announcing that effective immediately, the company is going to temporarily cease selling its multi-sensor iPhone-connected Nest Protect: Smoke + Carbon Monoxide alarm, which was first introduced in October.
According to Fadell, a recent laboratory test revealed that Nest Wave, a feature that enables the device's alarm to be turned off with a gesture, could potentially be used to turn off an alarm unintentionally, thus delaying the activation of the alarm in a real fire.
During recent laboratory testing of the Nest Protect smoke alarm, we observed a unique combination of circumstances that caused us to question whether the Nest Wave (a feature that enables you to turn off your alarm with a wave of the hand) could be unintentionally activated. This could delay an alarm going off if there was a real fire. We identified this problem ourselves and are not aware of any customers who have experienced this, but the fact that it could even potentially happen is extremely important to me and I want to address it immediately.
Nest states that no customers have been affected by the potential issues with Nest Wave and that the steps it has taken to halt sales are a precautionary measure. The company estimates that fixing the issue will take two to three months.
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I've read complaints about the detectors that make me not want to get one. Most notable the false alarms and the "This alarm can't be canceled" message, WTF? I'll keep to my el cheapo battery operated ones, thanks. If my thermostat ever acts up I'll toss it in the trash. Some of the new Honeywell ones look really nice! Like this one http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/P...Thermostat.htm
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I find it annoying that Nest can just push stuff out to these devices if it's connected to wifi. "Yeah, we're just going to disable that nest wave feature for you." What if you didn't get the message and suddenly you don't know why wave is not working?
It also pisses me off that they push software updates to the thermostats, without end user control, in the middle of winter and summer when they are needed the most. They broke a lot of people's thermostats over the winter with a software update.
It also pisses me off that they push software updates to the thermostats, without end user control, in the middle of winter and summer when they are needed the most. They broke a lot of people's thermostats over the winter with a software update.
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I've read complaints about the detectors that make me not want to get one. Most notable the false alarms and the "This alarm can't be canceled" message, WTF? I'll keep to my el cheapo battery operated ones, thanks. If my thermostat ever acts up I'll toss it in the trash. Some of the new Honeywell ones look really nice! Like this one http://yourhome.honeywell.com/home/P...Thermostat.htm
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Trying to decide between the Nest and the Honeywell. Has anyone here tried both?
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Well yeah but an expensive one none the less.
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Either way, make sure you have the blue C wire running to your tstat. With the Nest, you can plug it into the wall if you must. With the Honeywell, you HAVE to have the C wire.
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Next time I think I want one that doesn't send my data to a server. I don't like that Google knows when I'm home and when I'm not. I heard that electric companies are starting to do the same by installing smart meters on houses. Eventually they will even be able to guess what appliance was just turned on by the sudden increase in watts. WTF? Maybe I'll pull my Nest off of the wifi. Like I previously posted, pushing a software update in the middle of winter really pissed me off even though I wasn't negatively affected by it.
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Yes, I've tried both and returned the Nest. As I said above, too much gimmicky BS for me to really love it. The Honeywell is very cut and dry, simple to program, comes with tons of features you'd never really think you'd want on a thermostat, and no gimmicky BS.
Either way, make sure you have the blue C wire running to your tstat. With the Nest, you can plug it into the wall if you must. With the Honeywell, you HAVE to have the C wire.
Either way, make sure you have the blue C wire running to your tstat. With the Nest, you can plug it into the wall if you must. With the Honeywell, you HAVE to have the C wire.
Did the larger temperature variation the Nest have bother you to. It seems in reviews people mention that it is +/- 3 degrees compared to the Honeywell is only +/- 1 degree.
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Sometimes the builder will have shoved the C wire into the hole that the tstat wires are coming out of so pull the whole bundle out and check. Also make sure it's connected on the other end on your furnace control panel.
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I was more so irritated by the motion sensor bit (i know you can turn it off but still), the overall user interface, the inability to really control a temperature, terrible customer service, clunky mobile app, user interface that's too frilly, etc. This is a thermostat and should behave like one and not like the newest smart phone.
The Honeywell tstat is very user friendly, everything is super easy to find, you can change the background colors to match your wall, it learns the rate at which your HVAC system can raise or lower the temp and can be programmed to kick on early enough to reach the desired temp at the desired time, reminds you to change filters/humidifier pads, vacation mode, stay at home mode, excellent mobile app, doesn't try and tell you that you're not being "green", shows the outside temp and humidity, shows date and time, auto adjusts for DST, easy to change and hold temps for however long you want or forever, more intuitive user interface, etc...
The Honeywell tstat is very user friendly, everything is super easy to find, you can change the background colors to match your wall, it learns the rate at which your HVAC system can raise or lower the temp and can be programmed to kick on early enough to reach the desired temp at the desired time, reminds you to change filters/humidifier pads, vacation mode, stay at home mode, excellent mobile app, doesn't try and tell you that you're not being "green", shows the outside temp and humidity, shows date and time, auto adjusts for DST, easy to change and hold temps for however long you want or forever, more intuitive user interface, etc...
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I just picked up the Honeywell this past week. So far very user friendly and i like it. We will see how it does as the summer arrives.
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The first time I get an add on my thermostat it is going in the garbage.
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Google Sees Ads in Odd Spots Like Thermostats
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/05/...rss_Technology
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Google Sees Ads in Odd Spots Like Thermostats
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/05/...rss_Technology
In a December letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission, which was disclosed Tuesday, the search giant said that it could be serving ads and other content on “refrigerators, car dashboards, thermostats, glasses, and watches, to name just a few possibilities.”
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Nest says Google to change SEC filing.
https://community.nest.com/thread/5443
https://community.nest.com/thread/5443
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by nest_brian on May 21, 2014 2:02 PM
Hi stevetim
I want to clear this up. Google is in contact with the SEC to clarify the language in this 2013 filing, which does not reflect Google's product roadmpa. Nest does NOT have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans.
by nest_brian on May 21, 2014 2:02 PM
Hi stevetim
I want to clear this up. Google is in contact with the SEC to clarify the language in this 2013 filing, which does not reflect Google's product roadmpa. Nest does NOT have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans.
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Nest Protect back on sale again for $99. Wave feature disabled.
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I tried out a Nest thermostant for a few days but hated the +/- 3 degrees inaccuracy. If I want it at 72, I mean 72 and not 75! Returned it and got a Honeywell instead and I'm much happier.