Nest Thermostat
#401
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
I wish I could control my Samsung SmartTV with SmartThings but unforutunately it appears to be too old and I would need a seperate hub for that.
#402
To make this work even better the next thing you would need to really add are the controllable vents for each room. That way you can limit the air going into each room once it has reached its desired temperature. I have not gotten this far but am definitely considering it for my first floor for sure. You can then using a smart home hub like SmartThings to integrate everything. I believe a setup with both multiple sensors and smart vents in primary rooms will be in the long term where you really start to see savings.
#403
#404
Ex-OEM King
To make this work even better the next thing you would need to really add are the controllable vents for each room. That way you can limit the air going into each room once it has reached its desired temperature. I have not gotten this far but am definitely considering it for my first floor for sure. You can then using a smart home hub like SmartThings to integrate everything. I believe a setup with both multiple sensors and smart vents in primary rooms will be in the long term where you really start to see savings.
I run everything through Harmony Hub and IFTTT. Only a matter of time before these things natively integrate with GH.
#405
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
Oh ok I thought you meant you were able to do it now without the Harmony Hub. I have been looking at that so I don't have to turn my entire setup on with multiple remotes but I really am waiting for the one with the touch screen to go onsale.
#406
Ex-OEM King
I didn't bother with the touch screen one as the one I have uses a standard remote for the hub (RF communication) and if I need more I can use the phone interface which already has a nice screen. Never have to charge the remote and don't have to point it at the hub for it to function. Also saved ~$150 with passing on the touchscreen.
#408
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
I didn't bother with the touch screen one as the one I have uses a standard remote for the hub (RF communication) and if I need more I can use the phone interface which already has a nice screen. Never have to charge the remote and don't have to point it at the hub for it to function. Also saved ~$150 with passing on the touchscreen.
#409
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
Depends on which models then I guess. I feel like my Ecobee has a lot more features and settings than my Honeywell Touchscreen Wifi tstat had. I have one to sell if anyone wants one.
#410
Ex-OEM King
It's called Harmony Smart Control. The phone has a bigger and better screen anyway and, IMO, smart things should control the hub not the other way around. With IFTTT, you could set up recipes pretty quick.
#411
I have 3 systems in my house, and unfortunately only one has a standard t-stat... the other two are communicating, so I'd be giving up a lot more than I'd be getting if I hooked them up to ST.
I'm more of set it and forget it with the t-stat though... once I have the schedules set, the only reason to alter from the setpoint is if I'm home in unoccupied mode, or I'm going on vacation.
Anyway, the one cool feature that my traditional stat has, that I'm not sure that nest can do (maybe you can tell me) is optimal start time. With this, the thermostat "learns" how long it takes your system to cool or heat your house to your desired setpoint, so it turns your system on prior to your occupancy time so that it's at the desired setpoint when it hits that point... rather than turning the system on at that point.
#412
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
I don't know if the Nest has it but I do not think my Ecobee has it. I wish it did. I have kind of figured out over time how long it takes to get to a set temp. In spring, fall, and winter I have it come on about 30min before I get home. In the summer when it is really hot out it is an hour or a little more I set it for. My Ecobee might have that but if it does I have not figured it out.
This is the one I have I am no longer using. Wi-Fi Programmable Thermostat - Wi-Fi 9000 | Honeywell Only reason I got rid of it was to have the extra sensors. I either have more efficent units at my new house or it is actually saving me money with the extra sensors cause my electric bill is the same with a larger first floor with a vaulted ceiling and I now have fiberboard siding instead of brick.
This is the one I have I am no longer using. Wi-Fi Programmable Thermostat - Wi-Fi 9000 | Honeywell Only reason I got rid of it was to have the extra sensors. I either have more efficent units at my new house or it is actually saving me money with the extra sensors cause my electric bill is the same with a larger first floor with a vaulted ceiling and I now have fiberboard siding instead of brick.
#414
Ex-OEM King
Anyway, the one cool feature that my traditional stat has, that I'm not sure that nest can do (maybe you can tell me) is optimal start time. With this, the thermostat "learns" how long it takes your system to cool or heat your house to your desired setpoint, so it turns your system on prior to your occupancy time so that it's at the desired setpoint when it hits that point... rather than turning the system on at that point.
#415
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,628
Received 3,841 Likes
on
2,575 Posts
I would argue that it can be both though depending on where your thermostat is located. Our thermostat is in a hallway right off our kitchen. The reading on the thermostat is always colder than my bedroom at night in the winter and hotter in the summer than our bedroom in the summer. So for when we sleep from 10pm-6am we set it to only use the sensor in the bedroom. So the actual thermostat sensor reads 2 degrees colder than the bedroom sensor. That to me would mean that the system is running less. When we are away the sensor in our room where the dog are kept is the only one being polled. The sun rises on that side of the house so by the time it is the warmest point of the day in the summer it doesn't have direct sun so the A/C doesn't run as long having it only use that sensor since that room typically stays cooler than the rest of the house as the master bedroom and living room are on the backside of the house and will get warmer.
#416
I would argue that it can be both though depending on where your thermostat is located. Our thermostat is in a hallway right off our kitchen. The reading on the thermostat is always colder than my bedroom at night in the winter and hotter in the summer than our bedroom in the summer. So for when we sleep from 10pm-6am we set it to only use the sensor in the bedroom. So the actual thermostat sensor reads 2 degrees colder than the bedroom sensor. That to me would mean that the system is running less. When we are away the sensor in our room where the dog are kept is the only one being polled. The sun rises on that side of the house so by the time it is the warmest point of the day in the summer it doesn't have direct sun so the A/C doesn't run as long having it only use that sensor since that room typically stays cooler than the rest of the house as the master bedroom and living room are on the backside of the house and will get warmer.
#417
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,300
Received 2,797 Likes
on
1,990 Posts
Hmmm ecobee4 announced
#419
Stage 1 Audi S5
You know, I thought this was a waste until I bought a new Samsung and now I'm constantly having Alexa via ST turn it off. Neither my wife nor I realized how nice it is to set the goodnight routine that drops the AC, locks the doors if we haven't, turns off any lights that are on, sets the alarm, and turns the TV off with one button push. As others have said, Harmony can do it if your TV can't but the new SmartRemote or whatever from Samsung is nice, one tiny remote to control the TV, sound bar, Apple TV, Amazon Fire and no programming.
#420
Ex-OEM King
^ What alarm system do you use that's connected to ST?
#422
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Dirty H-Town, Amerikkka
Posts: 28,432
Received 7,772 Likes
on
5,045 Posts
Tell me more about these automated door locks please.
(not so I can rob you, but because I'm interested in this for my underpass refrigerator box.)
Spoiler
The following users liked this post:
Mizouse (05-04-2017)
#423
Ex-OEM King
...also interested in these automatic door locks lol.
#424
Stage 1 Audi S5
Well, Smart Home Monitor, kind of an alarm but the one built into smart things. I have all the doors, windows, and outside gate sensored, along with motion sensors and a siren.
As for the door locks, all the major manufactures make them that will lock within a certain time period after opening it or you can make a "routine" that will lock it, along with various other things such as adjust AC, turn off lights, etc. As for robbing, I guess you could hack ST and rob us but I would think just smashing the window would be easier.
As for the door locks, all the major manufactures make them that will lock within a certain time period after opening it or you can make a "routine" that will lock it, along with various other things such as adjust AC, turn off lights, etc. As for robbing, I guess you could hack ST and rob us but I would think just smashing the window would be easier.
#425
Team Owner
Anyone ever get an E24 error where the voltage keeps dropping thus shutting down the thermostat temporarily? I spoke to Nest and after some troubleshooting an a/c tech is coming by today to add an add'l power connection to the thermostat by finding another wire to connect to it or running one. Nest is reimbursing.
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (07-03-2017)
#426
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
happened to me. and I reported in this thread.
originally, I installed Nest and didnt have ANY problems for a year.
then one night during the summer, A/C completely shut off. After troubleshooting with Nest for a few days, we found that the NEST was not receiving power and shutting down. (we found this out by taking off the face of nest and plugging it in via USB to recharge the internal battery) I was advised to add a C wire(common wire) to nest.
my A/C unit control panel DID not have a Common wire attached, and had a friend hook up a common wire to the control panel and drop it down the attic. instead of creating more work by dropping C wire all the way to where nest was originally, we just dropped wire to the 2nd floor. (attic to upstairs.) that solved EVERYTHING
originally, I installed Nest and didnt have ANY problems for a year.
then one night during the summer, A/C completely shut off. After troubleshooting with Nest for a few days, we found that the NEST was not receiving power and shutting down. (we found this out by taking off the face of nest and plugging it in via USB to recharge the internal battery) I was advised to add a C wire(common wire) to nest.
my A/C unit control panel DID not have a Common wire attached, and had a friend hook up a common wire to the control panel and drop it down the attic. instead of creating more work by dropping C wire all the way to where nest was originally, we just dropped wire to the 2nd floor. (attic to upstairs.) that solved EVERYTHING
The following users liked this post:
Doom878 (07-03-2017)
#428
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
my a/c friend decided to add a wire to the C port. (which means he had to drop the new wire down) I suppose it would be easier to move an unused wire. (because they are already dropped down to where your nest is) if you have an unused wire, that is.
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (07-03-2017)
#431
Team Owner
The guy went in and found a cable. He's charging $180 so hopefully that works. He's testing it right now. He wanted to cross sell fixing the UV light to kill the bacteria for $180 but I told him not right now. Do you guys even UV?
#433
Team Owner
So yeah that didn't work but the pipe was clogged up some. Even though I changed out the filter (I've been here 4 mos) with my Rott and 3 cats, probably all that hair clogged it up. Seems to be running ok since the unclogging. Going to have to run bleach in there too.
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (07-03-2017)
#434
Stage 1 Audi S5
Installed the Ecobee4 in our master the other day, meh. The Alexa integration is awesome and the speaker sounds pretty good but to me, the unit is ugly and I hate using the screen to adjust the temp. Nest just looks good and personally, I rather twist it then slide my finger across.
#435
Team Owner
I'm surprised that Nest is going to reimburse for the expense of running the power wire.
#436
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
I suffered a few days of uncomfortable sleep
#437
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,300
Received 2,797 Likes
on
1,990 Posts
Debating the ecobee3 or nest.
thinking ecobee since it's HomeKit compatible
are thete any limitations on these things? Like our furnace and AC unit are old as fuck. 25+ years old.
thinking ecobee since it's HomeKit compatible
are thete any limitations on these things? Like our furnace and AC unit are old as fuck. 25+ years old.
#438
Stage 1 Audi S5
I think the C wire is the main thing but I could be wrong. Both the Nest and Eco worked on 20 year old AC's and continue to work, once we updated them to new units. I don't think much has changed in terms of hookups but I could be wrong. Nest has a guide that may help, compatibility guide
The following 2 users liked this post by 1StGenCL:
justnspace (07-05-2017),
Mizouse (07-05-2017)
#439
Moderator
The programmability is nice, compared to the basic thermostat we had at our old house.
The following users liked this post:
Mizouse (07-05-2017)
#440
Ex-OEM King
I think the C wire is the main thing but I could be wrong. Both the Nest and Eco worked on 20 year old AC's and continue to work, once we updated them to new units. I don't think much has changed in terms of hookups but I could be wrong. Nest has a guide that may help, compatibility guide
The following 3 users liked this post by SamDoe1: