How old were you when you purchased your first home?
#41
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Absolutely
I lived with my parents ever since graduating college, and even after I got married in July 2011. It SUCKED, but it did allow my wife and I to save up enough to put 50% down on our house. We will save a lot of money which would otherwise be wasted as interest.
I lived with my parents ever since graduating college, and even after I got married in July 2011. It SUCKED, but it did allow my wife and I to save up enough to put 50% down on our house. We will save a lot of money which would otherwise be wasted as interest.
#42
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30 and still haven't bought jack shit.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
#43
30 and still haven't bought jack shit.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
But why help someone else pay off their mortgage by renting their apartment when you can put that rent money towards a mortgage for a house that will eventually become yours?
Well obviously if money is tight.. then a mortgage wouldn't be a viable option. If I was living in $400 apartment and had $400 extra each month, I'd rather be saving that money up and cooking at home then wasting it at Mickey D's..
But to each their own.
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#44
Royalty don't eat that shit, and $800 will you get a luxury closet in NYC.
The only time it makes more sense to rent if a) not a permanent place of employment b) it is not a buyer's market, so owning and losing vs renting, renting will win. c) you can't be committed to a mortgage - in finishing one without extra debt or penalties.
But if you live in a nice place and you like it, and you see yourself there for at least 10 years and your rent is a few hundred short of a mortgage to own, why piss your money away?
The only time it makes more sense to rent if a) not a permanent place of employment b) it is not a buyer's market, so owning and losing vs renting, renting will win. c) you can't be committed to a mortgage - in finishing one without extra debt or penalties.
But if you live in a nice place and you like it, and you see yourself there for at least 10 years and your rent is a few hundred short of a mortgage to own, why piss your money away?
#45
The sizzle in the Steak
25 years old when I purchased my first home.
#46
David_Dude
30 and still haven't bought jack shit.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
I'll never understand the sacrifices people make. Let me see... I could live in a $395 micro-efficiency apartment and have $400 extra each month to enjoy eating like royalty (pretty much I can afford to eat out at McDonalds, Taco Bell, or Arby's once per day on weekdays and twice per day on weekends). OR I could pay $800 for a luxury apartment and have to live like a shut-in, always trying to find a way to cook noodles and such due to the food budget constraints...
OR I could make life hell and get a house (not even getting into this... ) with ungodly expenses beyond the $800 mortgage payment... landscaping, taxes, constant repairs, reroofing, sump pumps, septic tanks, etc. which pretty much guarantees you have to cook all your meals for the rest of your life and totally give up on taking real vacations.
Interesting perspective...
But why help someone else pay off their mortgage by renting their apartment when you can put that rent money towards a mortgage for a house that will eventually become yours?
Well obviously if money is tight.. then a mortgage wouldn't be a viable option. If I was living in $400 apartment and had $400 extra each month, I'd rather be saving that money up and cooking at home then wasting it at Mickey D's..
But to each their own.
But why help someone else pay off their mortgage by renting their apartment when you can put that rent money towards a mortgage for a house that will eventually become yours?
Well obviously if money is tight.. then a mortgage wouldn't be a viable option. If I was living in $400 apartment and had $400 extra each month, I'd rather be saving that money up and cooking at home then wasting it at Mickey D's..
But to each their own.
#47
26 when I purchased my first home, back in 2002. Bought my second in 04, when I was 28.
Wish I kept my first as a rental, but I needed the equity to upgrade to my second house.
Wish I kept my first as a rental, but I needed the equity to upgrade to my second house.
#48
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Interesting perspective...
But why help someone else pay off their mortgage by renting their apartment when you can put that rent money towards a mortgage for a house that will eventually become yours?
Well obviously if money is tight.. then a mortgage wouldn't be a viable option. If I was living in $400 apartment and had $400 extra each month, I'd rather be saving that money up and cooking at home then wasting it at Mickey D's..
But to each their own.
But why help someone else pay off their mortgage by renting their apartment when you can put that rent money towards a mortgage for a house that will eventually become yours?
Well obviously if money is tight.. then a mortgage wouldn't be a viable option. If I was living in $400 apartment and had $400 extra each month, I'd rather be saving that money up and cooking at home then wasting it at Mickey D's..
But to each their own.
In the past 13 years the longest I've been in any one city continuously was 2.5 years. heh
#49
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Okay so I have to admit you are right. What I will do is acquire a rental property that hopefully makes enough income to cover my own rent. But go ahead and keep on renting myself - because there is nothing worse in my mind than being a "prisoner" in one location 5 or 10 years just because you will hurt badly if you resell too soon given real estate agent's commission etc.
In the past 13 years the longest I've been in any one city continuously was 2.5 years. heh
In the past 13 years the longest I've been in any one city continuously was 2.5 years. heh
Personally i like to come home at the end of the day to MY house, not someone else's house that i just live in.
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Interesting-- I made my first home purchase while in the mid-30s.
All of my male friends bought their first homes in their mid-30s as well, after they got married and stabilized their careers.
We all then had to contend with home prices in SoCal.
All of my male friends bought their first homes in their mid-30s as well, after they got married and stabilized their careers.
We all then had to contend with home prices in SoCal.
#52
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still have a long time for that too though
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Oh and i was 26
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Bought when I was 23 years old for $130K put $30K into it and alot of personal time and effort. It's now worth $260K, appraiser was just here last week for a refinance to get a lower rate. Will probably build the next home and rent this one out since I can get double the mortgage including escrow in rent with it being so close to the air force base. Best purchase of my life. Also very rewarding going home to MY house.
I think you'd be making a wise choice.
I think you'd be making a wise choice.
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Signed contract at 24, closed at 25 (new construction). Between that and my 34th b-day we purchased two more homes and flipped some land. Note - when I say purchased two more homes, we've owned 3 total... not at the same time (although our last house was rented by the buyers for 8 months before we closed on it, so we had two homes for a short period of time) . Also, we never put down less then 20%. PMI is crap.
Only time I paid rent was for 8 months while waiting for our first home to be completed. I was never a fan of paying someone else's mortgage.
We are now in the process of purchasing a vacation property which will be both a place to retreat to, plus supplemental income.
Only time I paid rent was for 8 months while waiting for our first home to be completed. I was never a fan of paying someone else's mortgage.
We are now in the process of purchasing a vacation property which will be both a place to retreat to, plus supplemental income.
#59
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Bought my first at age 30 in 1982 for $46,000. Always took out 15 year loans to build equity faster as I was transferred 6 times. Had enough equity on 2nd home purchase for 20% down and never looked back. Last home purchased in 2004 for $300,000 cash. Retired this year, and boy was it handy saving the house payment money for 10 years before retirement. Home ownership worked out well for me.
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21, kinda wished I held out a little longer but it made sense at the time. 25 now, I'm planning on doing something custom construction in the next few years. Need more garage space.
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I was 26 and on my own when I bought my first house. I learned a shit ton about home ownership from that one.
Then I met my wife, who didn't like my house. I was a single guy with a single guy perspective when I bought the house.
Between me and my wife, we are on our third house which we bought when we were 29 and 27. We are probably going to hold on to this one for a while, either to live in it or rent it out.
Then I met my wife, who didn't like my house. I was a single guy with a single guy perspective when I bought the house.
Between me and my wife, we are on our third house which we bought when we were 29 and 27. We are probably going to hold on to this one for a while, either to live in it or rent it out.
#65
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Location, location, location.
We purchased 2 acres of land in a rural bedroom community, then I spent my early career as an expatriate professional.
So I was 30 when we returned to the US and we designed and built the house to our specs. We choose the state, county and school district for it's dominant population of like-minded people.
It was a carefully designed, lifetime plan and we still enjoy it.
We purchased 2 acres of land in a rural bedroom community, then I spent my early career as an expatriate professional.
So I was 30 when we returned to the US and we designed and built the house to our specs. We choose the state, county and school district for it's dominant population of like-minded people.
It was a carefully designed, lifetime plan and we still enjoy it.
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Regarding my house on post #64
The location is on a mountain in Northern Greece and whole interior of the house: floors, walls and ceilings is Knotty Pine from Oregon.
It is a beautiful wood especially sealed. And very happy to tell you that many towns in the state use the knotty pine from Oregon.
The house also has a marble fireplace, built in bedroom cabinets and hydronic heating and four balconies. Elev. 3,600 ft.
The location is on a mountain in Northern Greece and whole interior of the house: floors, walls and ceilings is Knotty Pine from Oregon.
It is a beautiful wood especially sealed. And very happy to tell you that many towns in the state use the knotty pine from Oregon.
The house also has a marble fireplace, built in bedroom cabinets and hydronic heating and four balconies. Elev. 3,600 ft.
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I was 31 and my wife and I bought our first home a year after marriage. I rented throughout my 20's and moved probably once a year so i feel like I never ever want to move again. We bought a 6 bedroom home though so plenty of room to never have the need to move again....unless this neighborhood goes south which seems to happen overnight in Phoenix sometimes.
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If only you lived in a better neighborhood...
#71
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Bought our house when we were 25... best way to go if you're able to do so. Renting is flushing money down the drain. Some of my friends pay more for their rent, then our mortgage. It's a joke. Obviously we have maintenance and repair costs along with other odds and ends like landscaping/yard up keep... however we love tinkering around the house, inside and out. It's an investment too. Home will appreciate in value.
#72
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KEEP RENTING AT YOUR AGE
renting in NYC too and waiting to pull the trigger in the next 2 years WHEN we need the space. we found a basic 1 bedroom rental through a condo owner. Our rent is well below market at $2,600...his RE tax and Building CAM is $2,200/mo., and his mortgage (if he has one) would be another $3,000/mo. So you could find situations like this where renting makes a lot of sense.
I say save, stay with parents, or get a room share. Renting in NYC through your 20s is practically inevitable, as your options to buy are the following:
1. Condo within 5 boroughs: If you look hard, $300k could get you a 1 bedroom somewhere, and will have roughly $1.5-2k a month in RE tax and building CAM, so even if you were to inherit the condo debt free, your carry cost could outweigh rent (even if you have a rental room share).
2. Starter house: In area with good schools, and <1 hour commute to NYC will be a stretch for $600k to land a 3 bedroom home (north jersey/Westchester). Taxes in NJ would be $12-$15k and taxes in Westchester, slightly less. Again, carry cost, less mortage, are not too far off from renting.
Theres always a price to building some equity, but I would not recommend putting 10% down on a place in/near NYC until you have an established career / stable job with a salary in excess of 100k.
....again, ride it through your 20s and pull the trigger later in life.
renting in NYC too and waiting to pull the trigger in the next 2 years WHEN we need the space. we found a basic 1 bedroom rental through a condo owner. Our rent is well below market at $2,600...his RE tax and Building CAM is $2,200/mo., and his mortgage (if he has one) would be another $3,000/mo. So you could find situations like this where renting makes a lot of sense.
I say save, stay with parents, or get a room share. Renting in NYC through your 20s is practically inevitable, as your options to buy are the following:
1. Condo within 5 boroughs: If you look hard, $300k could get you a 1 bedroom somewhere, and will have roughly $1.5-2k a month in RE tax and building CAM, so even if you were to inherit the condo debt free, your carry cost could outweigh rent (even if you have a rental room share).
2. Starter house: In area with good schools, and <1 hour commute to NYC will be a stretch for $600k to land a 3 bedroom home (north jersey/Westchester). Taxes in NJ would be $12-$15k and taxes in Westchester, slightly less. Again, carry cost, less mortage, are not too far off from renting.
Theres always a price to building some equity, but I would not recommend putting 10% down on a place in/near NYC until you have an established career / stable job with a salary in excess of 100k.
....again, ride it through your 20s and pull the trigger later in life.
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#73
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I was 26. Still in the same home today. Looking to move in the next couple of years or so.
#75
David_Dude
Regarding my house on post #64
The location is on a mountain in Northern Greece and whole interior of the house: floors, walls and ceilings is Knotty Pine from Oregon.
It is a beautiful wood especially sealed. And very happy to tell you that many towns in the state use the knotty pine from Oregon.
The house also has a marble fireplace, built in bedroom cabinets and hydronic heating and four balconies. Elev. 3,600 ft.
The location is on a mountain in Northern Greece and whole interior of the house: floors, walls and ceilings is Knotty Pine from Oregon.
It is a beautiful wood especially sealed. And very happy to tell you that many towns in the state use the knotty pine from Oregon.
The house also has a marble fireplace, built in bedroom cabinets and hydronic heating and four balconies. Elev. 3,600 ft.
#76
Safety Car
KEEP RENTING AT YOUR AGE
renting in NYC too and waiting to pull the trigger in the next 2 years WHEN we need the space. we found a basic 1 bedroom rental through a condo owner. Our rent is well below market at $2,600...his RE tax and Building CAM is $2,200/mo., and his mortgage (if he has one) would be another $3,000/mo. So you could find situations like this where renting makes a lot of sense.
I say save, stay with parents, or get a room share. Renting in NYC through your 20s is practically inevitable, as your options to buy are the following:
1. Condo within 5 boroughs: If you look hard, $300k could get you a 1 bedroom somewhere, and will have roughly $1.5-2k a month in RE tax and building CAM, so even if you were to inherit the condo debt free, your carry cost could outweigh rent (even if you have a rental room share).
2. Starter house: In area with good schools, and <1 hour commute to NYC will be a stretch for $600k to land a 3 bedroom home (north jersey/Westchester). Taxes in NJ would be $12-$15k and taxes in Westchester, slightly less. Again, carry cost, less mortage, are not too far off from renting.
Theres always a price to building some equity, but I would not recommend putting 10% down on a place in/near NYC until you have an established career / stable job with a salary in excess of 100k.
....again, ride it through your 20s and pull the trigger later in life.
renting in NYC too and waiting to pull the trigger in the next 2 years WHEN we need the space. we found a basic 1 bedroom rental through a condo owner. Our rent is well below market at $2,600...his RE tax and Building CAM is $2,200/mo., and his mortgage (if he has one) would be another $3,000/mo. So you could find situations like this where renting makes a lot of sense.
I say save, stay with parents, or get a room share. Renting in NYC through your 20s is practically inevitable, as your options to buy are the following:
1. Condo within 5 boroughs: If you look hard, $300k could get you a 1 bedroom somewhere, and will have roughly $1.5-2k a month in RE tax and building CAM, so even if you were to inherit the condo debt free, your carry cost could outweigh rent (even if you have a rental room share).
2. Starter house: In area with good schools, and <1 hour commute to NYC will be a stretch for $600k to land a 3 bedroom home (north jersey/Westchester). Taxes in NJ would be $12-$15k and taxes in Westchester, slightly less. Again, carry cost, less mortage, are not too far off from renting.
Theres always a price to building some equity, but I would not recommend putting 10% down on a place in/near NYC until you have an established career / stable job with a salary in excess of 100k.
....again, ride it through your 20s and pull the trigger later in life.
#77
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^Guess its a good thing I don't live in NY.
Update...we just sold our first home and bought our next home. My wife and I just turned 31 (we bought our first house when were 24). Two kids later, we needed more room, so we finally got us something a little bigger...well, a LOT bigger, lol.
We already have about 63k in equity on the home and we just closed on Dec. 6th.
Update...we just sold our first home and bought our next home. My wife and I just turned 31 (we bought our first house when were 24). Two kids later, we needed more room, so we finally got us something a little bigger...well, a LOT bigger, lol.
We already have about 63k in equity on the home and we just closed on Dec. 6th.
#78
My update:
I'm currently renting in NYC. I decided to move out of my parents place back in Sept. I love it though, it's been really convenient and the rent is pretty decent for the space and location that I'm getting. I'm living with 4 other roommates in a 1FL loft near the Lower East Side.
The building is being demolished in Nov. so I'll have to start looking for a new place sometime this year. I've been contemplating whether or not to move back to the Bronx to save up for a downpayment on a house and other things. And my parents offered to rent me an apt in one of their properties but even with that offer, the apt is still back in the Bronx although the rent would be cheaper for sure.
Now that I'm single, living in the city has been a blast though.. and it's been reaaaal convenient to meet people and invite friends/guests over. The BMW however has been sitting back in the Bronx with my grandmother. Contemplating whether or not to sell the car. Even though I don't drive it often (maybe 3-5 times a month).. I'm still in love with it but then again that's extra money coming out of my pockets every month. I decided to give my sister my TL so the car is still within the family.
I'm currently renting in NYC. I decided to move out of my parents place back in Sept. I love it though, it's been really convenient and the rent is pretty decent for the space and location that I'm getting. I'm living with 4 other roommates in a 1FL loft near the Lower East Side.
The building is being demolished in Nov. so I'll have to start looking for a new place sometime this year. I've been contemplating whether or not to move back to the Bronx to save up for a downpayment on a house and other things. And my parents offered to rent me an apt in one of their properties but even with that offer, the apt is still back in the Bronx although the rent would be cheaper for sure.
Now that I'm single, living in the city has been a blast though.. and it's been reaaaal convenient to meet people and invite friends/guests over. The BMW however has been sitting back in the Bronx with my grandmother. Contemplating whether or not to sell the car. Even though I don't drive it often (maybe 3-5 times a month).. I'm still in love with it but then again that's extra money coming out of my pockets every month. I decided to give my sister my TL so the car is still within the family.
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24. Bought a 30 year old home on 1/2 an acre that needed some TLC. Since my father is a general contractor, I have had an entire youth's worth of experience fixing and building things. I have updated 6 out of 9 areas all with my own hands. My hope is to improve the house enough to help cover the cost of interest paid and closing costs when we upgrade in a few years.