2 days, 21 hours, 2 men and a basement...
06-12-2006, 07:09 PM
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2 days, 21 hours, 2 men and a basement...
Got the entire thing framed this weekend. 
The fire blocking took a bit more time than expected. The fire blocking can be seen on the tops of the top plates (white 5/8" sheetrock) and the 2x4s that are behind the metal studs every 10 feet. Still have to caulk the gaps between the pipe.
We ran piping (white) for a sump pump although I doubt I'll ever need one. In the 18 months we've been here, I've never seen water in the pit.
I'm running the electrical tonight and hopefully will have the inspector out by the end of the week to inspect the rough framing and eletrical. Doors are all framed out, just have to pop em in. Oh and the sheetrock, taping and mudding.
Anyone wanna help?
Fireblocking - see the sheetrock above the top plate and the 2x4 above/below the white pipe.
The fire blocking took a bit more time than expected. The fire blocking can be seen on the tops of the top plates (white 5/8" sheetrock) and the 2x4s that are behind the metal studs every 10 feet. Still have to caulk the gaps between the pipe.
We ran piping (white) for a sump pump although I doubt I'll ever need one. In the 18 months we've been here, I've never seen water in the pit.
I'm running the electrical tonight and hopefully will have the inspector out by the end of the week to inspect the rough framing and eletrical. Doors are all framed out, just have to pop em in. Oh and the sheetrock, taping and mudding.
Anyone wanna help?Fireblocking - see the sheetrock above the top plate and the 2x4 above/below the white pipe.
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So is there no way you could have done that without a permit? Seems like most DIY people around here can get away with sneaking a finished basement without drawing too much attention to themselves.
06-12-2006, 08:20 PM
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Oh and the sheetrock, taping and mudding. Anyone wanna help?
Anyone wanna help?
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
So is there no way you could have done that without a permit? Seems like most DIY people around here can get away with sneaking a finished basement without drawing too much attention to themselves.
Was speaking to a friend of mine in the home remodeling business. He's not sure if it's my county or my town, but even on resales, the building inspector comes in an inspects the home. They know that the basement was not finished before I moved in, so if I didn't get a permit and have it inspected, they could require me to cut holes in walls, ceiling, etc.
06-12-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
whats fireblocking?
06-12-2006, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JLatimer
Not offering to help, but... I used to always buy the premixed all-purpose mud till a buddy who has been doing this for years introduced me to quick-dry mud. I use a 25-minute drying mud now. You have to work really fast, I mean really fast and there is a bit of waste, but there is no shrinkage, thus no cracking, plus instead of waiting to dry to sand, you use your knife to scrape the peaks off. and then you are ready to sand in 12 hrs. Sanding is a little harder than the all-purpose since it dries harder. The best thing is you can fill holes the size of your fist with no paper, no board, just takes a little finesse.
I might just look into that.
06-12-2006, 08:55 PM
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Looking good 
Weird. Never heard of that referred to as fireblocker. I always think of this stuff as fire blocker
Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Fireblocking - see the sheetrock above the top plate
and the 2x4 above/below the white pipe. It's just what is says, it prevents a fire from traveling up the wall, into the space between the joists or side to side. That's why there is a 2x4 every 10 feet to prevent a fire from spreading horizontally. It's pretty much standard practice in every state.
and the 2x4 above/below the white pipe. It's just what is says, it prevents a fire from traveling up the wall, into the space between the joists or side to side. That's why there is a 2x4 every 10 feet to prevent a fire from spreading horizontally. It's pretty much standard practice in every state.
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Brett,
That's what you use to fill the small gaps, but since the wall is 3.5" away from the foundation, it would take an awful lot of that to fill that gap.
That's what you use to fill the small gaps, but since the wall is 3.5" away from the foundation, it would take an awful lot of that to fill that gap.
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Looks good Neil.
I’ve never worked with metal studs. Are they easier to use or is that required per the code?
What are the plans for the rooms?
I just got the insulation & drywall delivered for my garage addition on Saturday.
So I’ll be down there all weekend working.
I’ve never worked with metal studs. Are they easier to use or is that required per the code?
What are the plans for the rooms?
I just got the insulation & drywall delivered for my garage addition on Saturday.
So I’ll be down there all weekend working.
06-13-2006, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Was speaking to a friend of mine in the home remodeling business. He's not sure if it's my county or my town, but even on resales, the building inspector comes in an inspects the home. They know that the basement was not finished before I moved in, so if I didn't get a permit and have it inspected, they could require me to cut holes in walls, ceiling, etc.
YUP. Pay 'em now or really pay 'em later
06-13-2006, 07:36 AM
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Question, Why so much airspace behind the studs? Is that just for the piping, or does code require that much space?
Also, very nice work... Most inspectors would reach the bottom of the stairs and go no further. It isnt hard to see the attention to detail in your work.
Also, very nice work... Most inspectors would reach the bottom of the stairs and go no further. It isnt hard to see the attention to detail in your work.
06-13-2006, 07:56 AM
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Also, very nice work... Most inspectors would reach the bottom of the stairs and go no further. It isnt hard to see the attention to detail in your work.
BTW, nice job!
06-13-2006, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
Looks good Neil.
I’ve never worked with metal studs. Are they easier to use or is that required per the code?
What are the plans for the rooms?
I just got the insulation & drywall delivered for my garage addition on Saturday.
So I’ll be down there all weekend working.
I’ve never worked with metal studs. Are they easier to use or is that required per the code?
What are the plans for the rooms?
I just got the insulation & drywall delivered for my garage addition on Saturday.
So I’ll be down there all weekend working.
Definitely easier to lug down the basement. Wood is hit or miss on quality and if they're straight or not. My town doesn't have a requirement for wood or metal.
To the left of the stairs is probably gonna be a cedar closet. To the right is gonna be a big closet/HVAC room. Rest is entertainment/play room.
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Originally Posted by JLatimer
Question, Why so much airspace behind the studs? Is that just for the piping, or does code require that much space?
Also, very nice work... Most inspectors would reach the bottom of the stairs and go no further. It isnt hard to see the attention to detail in your work.
Also, very nice work... Most inspectors would reach the bottom of the stairs and go no further. It isnt hard to see the attention to detail in your work.
The one wall (where the small windows are) is spaced out because there is a concrete bump out and shelf to hold the wood beam. It's probably 5"-6" out. The rest is 3.5" out (width of a 2x4. Need to insulate it once I get the OK from the inspector.
06-13-2006, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
The inspector nailed me for a permit for new HVAC and water heater in the house I was selling. In the house I bought they were also nailed for the HVAC and for new electrical work for garage door openers. I'm sure there is stuff they would never catch, like a new outlet somewhere, but big obvious stuff will raise a flag. Our wonderful town requires a CO to sell/buy a house.
BTW, nice job!
BTW, nice job!
Yeah my neighbors who didn't get permits are gonna be screwed. I asked the town if they would know if a house had a finished basement before the current owner purchased it and they said HELL YEAH we would. And to make matters worse, they all did drywall ceilings so there isn't an easy way to see what's been done without ripping it down.
06-13-2006, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TBone2004
no need for moisture barrier or anything behind the studded walls?
No. I'm going to use the insulation bats that are covered in plastic though.
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Yeah my neighbors who didn't get permits are gonna be screwed. I asked the town if they would know if a house had a finished basement before the current owner purchased it and they said HELL YEAH we would. And to make matters worse, they all did drywall ceilings so there isn't an easy way to see what's been done without ripping it down.
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Nope. A house is being built right now in my old neighborhood and it is block as well...is it cheaper to do block? I would think it would actually cost more - no? More labor etc.?
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Wish me luck...rough electrical inspection tomorrow
Any pros got any tips to make sure it goes smooth?
Hopefully it gets approved then it's on to rough framing inspection, then insulation, then the walls start to go up.
Hopefully it gets approved then it's on to rough framing inspection, then insulation, then the walls start to go up.
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Provide coffee and donuts ?? 
Yeah I was thinking of having my wife come downstairs in the bikini with them.
08-07-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Yeah I was thinking of having my wife come downstairs in the bikini with them.
(sorry, always wanted to use this one)
Be polite and do not take anything they say personal would be my suggestions. Also know your layout and what and why you did something.
Good luck!
Good luck.
08-07-2006, 05:50 PM
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be courteous and offer things like water or soda. good luck NSXNEXT
08-07-2006, 07:46 PM
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As long as the electrons are flowing properly, I bet okay
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Rough electrical and rough framing approved. The framing guy got down the bottom of the steps and said "Wow, this is how to frame a basement!!!" I was like
On to the insulation.
The framing guy got down the bottom of the steps and said "Wow, this is how to frame a basement!!!" I was like On to the insulation.
08-08-2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Rough electrical and rough framing approved. The framing guy got down the bottom of the steps and said "Wow, this is how to frame a basement!!!" I was like
On to the insulation.
The framing guy got down the bottom of the steps and said "Wow, this is how to frame a basement!!!" I was like On to the insulation.
Congrats man.