Weight Loss and Society
06-20-2005, 01:42 PM
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Weight Loss and Society
Not sure if this belongs here or not....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
06-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
Not sure if this belongs here or not....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
06-20-2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
It's not just our society. It's every society. Human brains inherently react favourably when it comes to more attractive people. Notice how in grade school, nobody wants to be friends with the fat kid, even if he's funny and intelligent and a good person? Attractive people also tend to cluster together. A lot of times they will also have attractive friends too, or at least not fugly ones. It sucks for those of us who aren't hot, but that's the way it is...
Of course what society thinks is attractive is just as important.
please go back to the early 20th century way of thinking that meat on the bones = attractive. except for women they need to be in perfect barbie doll shape
06-20-2005, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 95gt
Of course what society thinks is attractive is just as important.
please go back to the early 20th century way of thinking that meat on the bones = attractive.
except for women they need to be in perfect barbie doll shape
please go back to the early 20th century way of thinking that meat on the bones = attractive. except for women they need to be in perfect barbie doll shape
For men it's the other way around. You need to be at least semi-beefy to get any attention. Fat guys and skinny guys don't get as much looks. Which is why it sucks to look like you've starved for 3 months (like how I look) and it sucks to be obese (like how a lot of north americans look).
06-20-2005, 02:52 PM
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06-20-2005, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
Even in the '50's that was the norm of attractiveness for women. Look at Marilyn Monroe. She wasn't a skinny girl, but she was considered one of the best looking women of her time.
She was a size 14. Which is the currently the average size for an American woman.
.... Fat guys and skinny guys don't get as much looks.
Ultraskinny though, not attracted
06-20-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by anothercls
I've been told I have a nice car, but I am too skinny, and I agree. I was definately skinnier then, now I am still too skinny, but don't like I was starved.
06-20-2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
Not sure if this belongs here or not....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
) improvement over before.
06-21-2005, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by youngTL
By the way, you made some insane accomplishments doing that. I bet you feel 10 times better about yourself and have more energy on a daily basis. So there's no way you can go wrong getting in shape. IMO a HUGE (ironic ) improvement over before.
) improvement over before.
. I have a doctors appointment next week for a physical. I have avoided going to my doctor for years because he always commented on me being overweight. Now I want him to concentrate on my other issues. I get a lot of headaches and would like to know why.
06-21-2005, 12:16 PM
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it's not fair, but it's reality.
maybe another factor is that, since you have lost weight, you feel a lot more confident about yourself, and as a result, your attitude rubs onto your co-workers.
health is holistic. it's all related. from what you eat, to your physical looks, outlook on life, relationships, etc.
maybe another factor is that, since you have lost weight, you feel a lot more confident about yourself, and as a result, your attitude rubs onto your co-workers.
health is holistic. it's all related. from what you eat, to your physical looks, outlook on life, relationships, etc.
06-21-2005, 12:23 PM
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I think this is just imbedded in our genes. In the wild, the strongest, best looking, etc are the ones that reproduce and lead the group. This is definitely not surprising, just nature in action. Crowds don't form around the pretty, in-shape girls at parties for no reason.
06-21-2005, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
I think this is just imbedded in our genes. In the wild, the strongest, best looking, etc are the ones that reproduce and lead the group. This is definitely not surprising, just nature in action. Crowds don't form around the pretty, in-shape girls at parties for no reason.
instincts for both men and women.
men want to reproduce by spreading their seeds. women wish to bear children, and will choose men with the strongest traits/characteristics.
seen in the animal kingdom.
06-21-2005, 12:58 PM
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One of the more interesting non-major classes I took in undergrad was social psychology. We studied, among other things, the difference in how men and women act with regard to reproduction from the basic theory of what is imbedded in our genes - males would prefer to reproduce with as many females as possible and females would prefer to reproduce with just one male. Of course this is not how things work, but in most animal populations this is the norm.
Anyway, this gives me more incentive to be in shape and keep up my appearances. It sounds bad, but I am more likely to get ahead if I also have physical attributes that are better than the next person. I am not trying to sound egotistical, just saying that I have to be aware of how people act on a basic level and use that to my advantage.
Anyway, this gives me more incentive to be in shape and keep up my appearances. It sounds bad, but I am more likely to get ahead if I also have physical attributes that are better than the next person. I am not trying to sound egotistical, just saying that I have to be aware of how people act on a basic level and use that to my advantage.
06-21-2005, 01:13 PM
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Aren't you married? 
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06-21-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
true...
instincts for both men and women.
men want to reproduce by spreading their seeds. women wish to bear children, and will choose men with the strongest traits/characteristics.
seen in the animal kingdom.
instincts for both men and women.
men want to reproduce by spreading their seeds. women wish to bear children, and will choose men with the strongest traits/characteristics.
seen in the animal kingdom.
I know that is true in my case.
06-21-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
Thanks, I feel a lot different. Lots of energy, I get nice looks from cute girls .
.It's just getting to that point where you've made some noticeable losses...that's the tough part.
06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
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wsklar, congrats on the weight loss. that is fantastic.
Yeah it sucks but what can you do. I think in general people look at obese or overweight people as lazy/lathargic (sp?) or weak. the way people are treating you probably also reflects on your confidence level. you may think nothing has changed but I bet you feel better now that you've lost weight...people will notice this.
Yeah it sucks but what can you do. I think in general people look at obese or overweight people as lazy/lathargic (sp?) or weak. the way people are treating you probably also reflects on your confidence level. you may think nothing has changed but I bet you feel better now that you've lost weight...people will notice this.
06-21-2005, 04:55 PM
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i think in a way it also stems to how much you take pride in yourself and your appearance. someone may not be the prettiest person, but if he/she dresses well, looks professional, and is well-groomed, they also have the advantage. conversely, if a good-looking person wears sweat pants and doesn't brush their hair and teeth all day, they're not going to be so good-looking anymore. i think people also associate being overweight with being lazy.
when it comes to companies and jobs, etc, everyone wants to put their best face forward, and that means hiring good-looking, able-bodied yet competant people. we all know pretty faces sell products.
my theory is: if you don't care about how you look, you probably don't care about a lot of other things too.
when it comes to companies and jobs, etc, everyone wants to put their best face forward, and that means hiring good-looking, able-bodied yet competant people. we all know pretty faces sell products.
my theory is: if you don't care about how you look, you probably don't care about a lot of other things too.
06-21-2005, 05:15 PM
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When I lost 30 LBS I went out and bought new clothes. I then had to buy some when I lost 50 LBS. Now nothing fits but I am waiting until I am done dieting. Point is that I feel better about myself and have been dressing differently since. I am now wearing button downs and nice slacks, where before I was wearing old polos and tees, sweats, etc. I can't wait to be done because I am going to go nuts at Macys.....
Originally Posted by supermegaglossy
i think in a way it also stems to how much you take pride in yourself and your appearance. someone may not be the prettiest person, but if he/she dresses well, looks professional, and is well-groomed, they also have the advantage. conversely, if a good-looking person wears sweat pants and doesn't brush their hair and teeth all day, they're not going to be so good-looking anymore. i think people also associate being overweight with being lazy.
when it comes to companies and jobs, etc, everyone wants to put their best face forward, and that means hiring good-looking, able-bodied yet competant people. we all know pretty faces sell products.
my theory is: if you don't care about how you look, you probably don't care about a lot of other things too.
when it comes to companies and jobs, etc, everyone wants to put their best face forward, and that means hiring good-looking, able-bodied yet competant people. we all know pretty faces sell products.
my theory is: if you don't care about how you look, you probably don't care about a lot of other things too.
06-21-2005, 05:16 PM
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You don't have much to loose. Plus, you get to hit on the girls...I can just look 
Originally Posted by chef chris
That's the best part of losing weight...and the feeling sticks with you/motivates you.
It's just getting to that point where you've made some noticeable losses...that's the tough part.
It's just getting to that point where you've made some noticeable losses...that's the tough part.
06-21-2005, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
Not sure if this belongs here or not....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
As some of you know, I have lost 65 LBS since 1/1/05. I have noticed that people (especially co-workers) have been a lot nicer to me since I lost the weight. I once saw a Dateline where they did an experiment where they took two people with the same experience / background and had them go on a job interview. One was in good shape, one was overweight. On all tests, the fit person got the job.
I guess the point is that people suck....
Don't let that stand in the way of your enjoyment of your new-found body, and treating yourself to clothing that you would not have worn last year is part of the deal. Risk it, have fun with it.
06-21-2005, 05:32 PM
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Thanks and it is a challenge. This forum helped in a lot of ways.
Originally Posted by ric
Congratulations, man. Losing that amount of weight is impressive, and I am sure it's been a challenge. And yep, society's attitude sucks; the studies do establish that handsome men and beautiful women have more "successfull" lives, in a variety of ways; some remnant of Darwinism, I suppose.
Don't let that stand in the way of your enjoyment of your new-found body, and treating yourself to clothing that you would not have worn last year is part of the deal. Risk it, have fun with it.
Don't let that stand in the way of your enjoyment of your new-found body, and treating yourself to clothing that you would not have worn last year is part of the deal. Risk it, have fun with it.
06-21-2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
You don't have much to loose. Plus, you get to hit on the girls...I can just look
Work in progress, work in progress...
06-22-2005, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by chef chris
Yeah, but every few pounds you lose...you set a lower goal...atleast I do.
Work in progress, work in progress...
Work in progress, work in progress...
06-22-2005, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Michiraces2much
I dig some chunk
too bad i have too much chunk 
time to make myself suffer with trying to lose weight now
06-22-2005, 08:51 AM
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I made the mistake of setting a lower goal recently. Now, Im sort of stuck again and getting impatient because I need to buy new clothes and get my wedding ring resized.
Originally Posted by chef chris
Yeah, but every few pounds you lose...you set a lower goal...atleast I do.
Work in progress, work in progress...
Work in progress, work in progress...
06-22-2005, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
I need to buy new clothes and get my wedding ring resized.
06-22-2005, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ferizzo
Good call because I waited too long before getting my ring resized and lost it!
06-23-2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chef chris
Men also go after(subconsciously/instinctively) the women most suited for child-bearing...ie: women with a curvy/shapely figure...
I know that is true in my case.
I know that is true in my case.
how did i miss that part out...
gotta have the curves...
06-23-2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
gotta have the curves...
06-24-2005, 12:12 AM
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i never said it, but congrats, wsklar. i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.
anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing. people suck.
btw, thanks for the reminder.
i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing.
people suck.btw, thanks for the reminder.
06-24-2005, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper
i never said it, but congrats, wsklar. i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.
anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing. people suck.
btw, thanks for the reminder.
i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing.
people suck.btw, thanks for the reminder.
Are you able to do things like a eliptical with your foot?
06-24-2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Michiraces2much
good to know! I know my roomates all prefer a girl with some junk compared to a stick figure.
if i wanted flat, i'd date a particle board...
need curves and some meat for grip during those "workouts"
but the booty needs to be bangin'...
06-24-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeper
i never said it, but congrats, wsklar. i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.
anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing. people suck.
btw, thanks for the reminder.
i've been down that road and am going through it again (dislocated foot and gained 30 lbs ). i went from 190 to 150 then stayed around 160 for years. the injury plus countless pity pitchers led to the recent gain. i've gone down 20 again, but these last 10 are going to be a pain in the ass. oddly enough, this time around i appreciate the drop a lot more than the first time it happened.anyway, back to topic. i also notice a lot of people treat you differently when you're thin or athletic. not surprising, but kind of disappointing.
people suck.btw, thanks for the reminder.
i blew my achilles tendon 3 summers ago, then blew my patella tendon 2 summers ago on the same leg. both injuries were from bball.
i will never be the same. rehab is working, but it's a slow and painful process. luckily i didn't gain weight from inactivity. if anything, i lost weight from not being able to work out. my left leg looks retarded compared to my right leg...