post workout meal necessary?
10-19-2008, 11:47 PM
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post workout meal necessary?
If I am drinking my protein shake with milk, will I gain weight and do more harm if I eat a meal WITH my shake? They say you need protein and carbohydrate after working out and my protein shake with milk already provides that. Will I gain more weight consuming more carbs other than in my shake?
10-20-2008, 10:15 AM
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This question has so many answers, but one thing to keep in mind, the more you eat, the more weight you will gain, the more calories you burn the more you will lose.
10-20-2008, 11:32 PM
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10-21-2008, 12:31 PM
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Protien and carb shake immediatley after a workout followed by a "healthy square meal within an hour after that. Your muscles need slow and fast digesting proteins. The fast and slow digesting proteins are needed every 3 hours. That's why bodybuilders eat "alot" of meals.....
10-21-2008, 12:38 PM
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Protien and carb shake immediatley after a workout followed by a "healthy square meal within an hour after that. Your muscles need slow and fast digesting proteins. The fast and slow digesting proteins are needed every 3 hours. That's why bodybuilders eat "alot" of meals.....
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10-21-2008, 05:40 PM
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Yeah, there's definately a basic foundation that needs to be laid to be successful. Timing , meals, sleep, supplements. If you got it down, it's very rewarding and well worth the time invested.
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Your body is just a big chemistry set. You will lose weight if you eat alot of meals 5 to 6 per day. Wanna lose weight?
OK, here's the big frickin secret;
Stay away from these;
refined sugars
milk products
flour products
fat butter lard.
there's one more but I can't remember, no it's not carbs, they're good for you.....
The above items digest faster than carbs and protiens. Your body will react and break down these things before it even gets a chance to absorb the carbs and protiens. The end result is fat instead of muscle.....
OK, here's the big frickin secret;
Stay away from these;
refined sugars
milk products
flour products
fat butter lard.
there's one more but I can't remember, no it's not carbs, they're good for you.....
The above items digest faster than carbs and protiens. Your body will react and break down these things before it even gets a chance to absorb the carbs and protiens. The end result is fat instead of muscle.....
10-22-2008, 08:27 AM
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Your body is just a big chemistry set. You will lose weight if you eat alot of meals 5 to 6 per day. Wanna lose weight?
OK, here's the big frickin secret;
Stay away from these;
refined sugars
milk products
flour products
fat butter lard.
there's one more but I can't remember, no it's not carbs, they're good for you.....
The above items digest faster than carbs and protiens. Your body will react and break down these things before it even gets a chance to absorb the carbs and protiens. The end result is fat instead of muscle.....
OK, here's the big frickin secret;
Stay away from these;
refined sugars
milk products
flour products
fat butter lard.
there's one more but I can't remember, no it's not carbs, they're good for you.....
The above items digest faster than carbs and protiens. Your body will react and break down these things before it even gets a chance to absorb the carbs and protiens. The end result is fat instead of muscle.....
10-23-2008, 07:02 PM
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thanks guys. so shake after lift then wait about an hour to eat a meal. then 3 hrs to eat another meal?
I didn't ask about how to loose weight and skim milk would be the best choice.
I didn't ask about how to loose weight and skim milk would be the best choice.
10-31-2008, 02:01 PM
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Post workout meals should consist of proteins and carbs like dextrose.
Eat 5-6 meals a day,stay away from simple carbs other than post workout.
Loosing weight =cals ingested vs cals burned,meaning,if you eat more cals than you burn you will not loose weight.Incorporate flax seeds and fish to your diet.
You can also "zig zag" your cals.Meaning reduce2-3 cals per lbs of lean body mass 4-5 days a week and then increase 2-3 cals per lbs of lean body mass for the rest of the week.When loosing weight you will also loose lbm,use glutamine to minimize muscle loss.Before you do all this you need to figure out you BMR.(basal metabolic rate)To do all this it is best to go see a personal trainer and he will be able to tell you your BMR,BMI and LBM. I could go on and on with this stuff.This is just a start,good luck.
Eat 5-6 meals a day,stay away from simple carbs other than post workout.
Loosing weight =cals ingested vs cals burned,meaning,if you eat more cals than you burn you will not loose weight.Incorporate flax seeds and fish to your diet.
You can also "zig zag" your cals.Meaning reduce2-3 cals per lbs of lean body mass 4-5 days a week and then increase 2-3 cals per lbs of lean body mass for the rest of the week.When loosing weight you will also loose lbm,use glutamine to minimize muscle loss.Before you do all this you need to figure out you BMR.(basal metabolic rate)To do all this it is best to go see a personal trainer and he will be able to tell you your BMR,BMI and LBM. I could go on and on with this stuff.This is just a start,good luck.
10-31-2008, 02:04 PM
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If you want calcium to build strong bones eat broccoli.
10-31-2008, 02:29 PM
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Plus I don't think too many animals have the whole pasturization process worked out. Nor do they get into the whole diet/weightlifting thing. What else do you have to support milk not being good for you?
10-31-2008, 03:09 PM
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Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose, which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system, with the result that the child soon becomes hungry again.
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10-31-2008, 03:15 PM
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The human race existed long before Pasteur was heard of.
Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose, which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system, with the result that the child soon becomes hungry again.
Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose, which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system, with the result that the child soon becomes hungry again.
Milk never constipate me. I'm not getting your point. What is it about milk that is bad for us?
10-31-2008, 03:22 PM
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children reduce or even eliminate the re occurrence of chronic ear infections just by removing dairy products from their diet.Milk has another major problem that creates health problems for people. Buttermilk, the fat in milk, is the most saturated fat in the American diet. Cheese is often 70% (or higher) fat by calories. Even "low fat" 2% milk is actually 24 to 33% fat as calories. Milk is a principal contributor to high cholesterol and artery-clogging artheroscherosis.I can go on and on and on. That's my opinion,simple! Go have a glass of milk and calm down.
10-31-2008, 03:30 PM
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Milk protein, known as casein, is difficult for humans to digest and stimulates the production of mucus (the body creates mucus to get rid of the undigested protein). This can aggravate conditions such as asthma, bronchitis and sinusitis.
children reduce or even eliminate the re occurrence of chronic ear infections just by removing dairy products from their diet.Milk has another major problem that creates health problems for people. Buttermilk, the fat in milk, is the most saturated fat in the American diet. Cheese is often 70% (or higher) fat by calories. Even "low fat" 2% milk is actually 24 to 33% fat as calories. Milk is a principal contributor to high cholesterol and artery-clogging artheroscherosis.I can go on and on and on. That's my opinion,simple! Go have a glass of milk and calm down.
children reduce or even eliminate the re occurrence of chronic ear infections just by removing dairy products from their diet.Milk has another major problem that creates health problems for people. Buttermilk, the fat in milk, is the most saturated fat in the American diet. Cheese is often 70% (or higher) fat by calories. Even "low fat" 2% milk is actually 24 to 33% fat as calories. Milk is a principal contributor to high cholesterol and artery-clogging artheroscherosis.I can go on and on and on. That's my opinion,simple! Go have a glass of milk and calm down.
Everything you just said are factors of individual ability to drink milk. I have no problem drinking milk or digesting it. I don't have asthma, bronchitis or sinusitis so I have no risk of aggravating them. I'm not a child, nor do i get chronic ear infections. I only drink skim milk, which has no fat and less cholesterol than buttermilk or 2% milk.
However, whey protein, the most soluble form of protein, is a natural by-product of milk and is of the most important substances your body can ingest.
And is this really your opinion or is it facts you are getting from somewhere?
10-31-2008, 03:50 PM
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Calm down? I wasn't really worked up. I'm just trying to clear this up.
Everything you just said are factors of individual ability to drink milk. I have no problem drinking milk or digesting it. I don't have asthma, bronchitis or sinusitis so I have no risk of aggravating them. I'm not a child, nor do i get chronic ear infections. I only drink skim milk, which has no fat and less cholesterol than buttermilk or 2% milk.
However, whey protein, the most soluble form of protein, is a natural by-product of milk and is of the most important substances your body can ingest.
And is this really your opinion or is it facts you are getting from somewhere?
Everything you just said are factors of individual ability to drink milk. I have no problem drinking milk or digesting it. I don't have asthma, bronchitis or sinusitis so I have no risk of aggravating them. I'm not a child, nor do i get chronic ear infections. I only drink skim milk, which has no fat and less cholesterol than buttermilk or 2% milk.
However, whey protein, the most soluble form of protein, is a natural by-product of milk and is of the most important substances your body can ingest.
And is this really your opinion or is it facts you are getting from somewhere?
I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?
And too much protein is no good for you either.Can irritate the kidneys and can cause arthritis because your body will produce uric acid.Don't get me wrong,I used to eat red meat like 3-4 times a week untill I started reading more about health.I love red meat but now I cut it down to 1-2 times a month.I feel alot healthier the way i eat now than in my old ways. I laso train and get better faster results with because i'm eating all the right foods and not too much of them, just enough.
10-31-2008, 04:00 PM
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Do some research on it.Everybody is different.It may bother some while it won't bother others.I'm not saying that you'll encounter all these symptoms either.
I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?
And too much protein is no good for you either.Can irritate the kidneys and can cause arthritis because your body will produce uric acid.Don't get me wrong,I used to eat red meat like 3-4 times a week untill I started reading more about health.I love red meat but now I cut it down to 1-2 times a month.I feel alot healthier the way i eat now than in my old ways. I laso train and get better faster results with because i'm eating all the right foods and not too much of them, just enough.
I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?
And too much protein is no good for you either.Can irritate the kidneys and can cause arthritis because your body will produce uric acid.Don't get me wrong,I used to eat red meat like 3-4 times a week untill I started reading more about health.I love red meat but now I cut it down to 1-2 times a month.I feel alot healthier the way i eat now than in my old ways. I laso train and get better faster results with because i'm eating all the right foods and not too much of them, just enough.
You really need to stop with your assumptions and blanket statements. You're not the only one who can read about health. Saying things like "I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?" insults my intelligence and to be honest you haven't shown me much to be able to do that. Especially after all you did was copy and paste from the first page of some Google results, results which did nothing to prove your point.
I don't think you were right to come out and say that people in general should stay away from milk when in actuality it depends in the individual.
That said, I'm a steady weightlifter and ingest a little less than a gram per pound of body weight (Yes I can read too so I know about eating too much irritating your kidneys and liver).
That's just my opinion.
10-31-2008, 05:41 PM
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So I wasn't worked up before, but I am now.
You really need to stop with your assumptions and blanket statements. You're not the only one who can read about health. Saying things like "I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?" insults my intelligence and to be honest you haven't shown me much to be able to do that. Especially after all you did was copy and paste from the first page of some Google results, results which did nothing to prove your point.
I don't think you were right to come out and say that people in general should stay away from milk when in actuality it depends in the individual.
That said, I'm a steady weightlifter and ingest a little less than a gram per pound of body weight (Yes I can read too so I know about eating too much irritating your kidneys and liver).
That's just my opinion.
You really need to stop with your assumptions and blanket statements. You're not the only one who can read about health. Saying things like "I'm assuming you think that red meat is necessary?" insults my intelligence and to be honest you haven't shown me much to be able to do that. Especially after all you did was copy and paste from the first page of some Google results, results which did nothing to prove your point.
I don't think you were right to come out and say that people in general should stay away from milk when in actuality it depends in the individual.
That said, I'm a steady weightlifter and ingest a little less than a gram per pound of body weight (Yes I can read too so I know about eating too much irritating your kidneys and liver).
That's just my opinion.
11-15-2008, 12:51 PM
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WOW, this thread is exactly why I stay away from this forum. People trying to act smart about stuff they don't know a damn thing about.
1st timer - I wish I could see you in person cuz I would smack the shit out of you.
1st timer - I wish I could see you in person cuz I would smack the shit out of you.
11-24-2008, 03:52 PM
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Key board warrior,take it easy cause if the day ever comes,you will regret those words.What I wrote above is my opinion after reading certain articles on the topic.Punk!!!
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