GIBSON6594

Great words. This is the truth.

I thought I was strong and developed until I started doing these.

Renegade

The patheo diet says to avoid grains and breads, etc...I have some deli chicken and roast beef slices in the fridge, if I cant have breads/grains then what can I eat it on?

RMATIC09

nothing.

eat it with vegetables (no shitty dressing), some healthy fat source and some fruit.

get used to it.

subinf

So the gym I go to now is really small, no real free weights bigger than 50lb dumbbells. They do have a machine that you can probably set to do some squat type exercise...I know it isn't the same as using a real bar and weights but is trying this worth it? Or should I just buy some shit for my home?

GIBSON6594

It's def worth doing. You will see a benefit. I try to vary my method with every workout, dumbells, barbells, machine. I'm always mixing it up. Try it out and see how you feel the next day.

Also, if the machine can do a squat movement, you can probably do dead lift type exercises too.

Doom878

You're better off with your own bar but you'll probably pay at least $100-$200 for a used bar and weights. A smooth motion will be tough on a smith machine plus you can't do the other O'lifts. Also with a machine, the assisted balancing offsets the gain on your core and other secondary muscles to stabilize the weight.

RMATIC09

Your better off getting a barbell and learning the motion. A machine essentially restricts you to the movement it allows.
In terms of difficulty, and overall effectiveness, it does not compare. Like DOOM said , power/olympic lifts are extremely core based - and using a smith machine will take away much of the benefits of these motions when done freely.

But then again , it's better than nothing.

If you squat from home you need a rack, and you need to be careful.

I would suggest bumper plates if you need to bail on a lift.

subinf

Thanks

I'm not really looking for getting big or anything but I do usually do a weight route when I decide to actually lift. I run a lot but am looking for other things to do.

Thanks for the input

Agent0r

A good replacement for eating anything you would normally use bread/buns/etc for, is lettuce. Big pieces of iceberg lettuce and use that to sandwich the rest of your food in.

Mizouse

just subscribing to this thread, to make use of the info.

Renegade

Wow I'm crazy out of shape, I did tabata sprints, run 20, rest 10, I could only do 2 sets...I feel like I'm not even prepared for any of the scaled exercises, what do i do from here then?

Renegade

I guess I'll do the 3 month beginner program

RMATIC09

2 sets and you were completely gassed? As in, you couldn't even jog at max effort?

Unless your obese, I don't really buy that. Your obviously not gonna be able to sprint as fast as your first set after it, but as long as your going max effort, it doesn't matter how fast your going.

Renegade

Well, I obviously couldnt go as fast, but I was so gassed I was breathing so fast that I couldn't really call the next sets "max effort", I also felt lightheaded, not sure if it was side effects from my lisinopril kicking in

Doom878

My wife is out of shape and she does scaled down WODs. I gave her a 20 rep modified Filthy Fifty on Saturday (9 exercises). She did it and walked 20 mins after. I'm pretty sure you're in better shape than her (30yr old mother of 2). Don't base your fitness on Tabata sprints. Try some of the Buttercup stuff as I suggested..