I'm tired of Muscle Milk...
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I took muscle milk, great tasting but has alot of fat.
i suggest Isopure , taste isn't nearly as good as muscle milk, but it has 0 fat, 0 carbs and 50 grams of pure protein.
i suggest Isopure , taste isn't nearly as good as muscle milk, but it has 0 fat, 0 carbs and 50 grams of pure protein.
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Originally Posted by SportShiftTypeS
I took muscle milk, great tasting but has alot of fat.
i suggest Isopure , taste isn't nearly as good as muscle milk, but it has 0 fat, 0 carbs and 50 grams of pure protein.
i suggest Isopure , taste isn't nearly as good as muscle milk, but it has 0 fat, 0 carbs and 50 grams of pure protein.
though Isopure is one of the best proteins out there...along with Prosource Nitro Whey
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Originally Posted by mantis23
What other protein supplement is worth trying?
What are you using?
What are you using?
I am such a noob.
Anyway, I drink it once a day after my evening workout. Should I be doing this several times a day? Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by ou sig
50 grams is WAY too much to have at one time...your body will only absorb like half that at once. The rest will turn into a big ass turd before you know it. 25-30 grams is a good serving
though Isopure is one of the best proteins out there...along with Prosource Nitro Whey
though Isopure is one of the best proteins out there...along with Prosource Nitro Whey
And although isopure has 0 carbs, if it's a postworkout drink, your body needs carbs to help repair/refuel those muscle fibers!
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
Optimum whey protein powder.
Taste's like Chocolate milk (Chocolate Flavor)
Mixes with a couple stirs of a spoon
Priced pretty cheep.
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
every body absorbs protein differntely. Your going out on a chain saying 50 is way to much to take in.
And although isopure has 0 carbs, if it's a postworkout drink, your body needs carbs to help repair/refuel those muscle fibers!
And although isopure has 0 carbs, if it's a postworkout drink, your body needs carbs to help repair/refuel those muscle fibers!
No Im not going out on a chain saying 50 is too much...maybe for a 300 pound person its not, but Im talking about a normal sized person.
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Originally Posted by ou sig
Its obviously only a protein powder, not post workout...there are specific things for that...hell even a chicken breast and some rice is really good.
No Im not going out on a chain saying 50 is too much...maybe for a 300 pound person its not, but Im talking about a normal sized person.
No Im not going out on a chain saying 50 is too much...maybe for a 300 pound person its not, but Im talking about a normal sized person.
ya chicken breast and rice is good, but drinks are usually perfered due to faster absoprtion, but then again, im sure it dosent make all that much of a difference.
Persoanally, i like keeping my insulin low all day, even after the post workout.
My PW drink includes
2 scoops optimum whey
1 cup oatmeal
1/2 banana
water/ice
I know plenty who use gatorade powder instead of oats, but to each their own i suppose.
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
I've tried them all... This is the best on the market hands down.
Taste's like Chocolate milk (Chocolate Flavor)
Mixes with a couple stirs of a spoon
Priced pretty cheep.
Taste's like Chocolate milk (Chocolate Flavor)
Mixes with a couple stirs of a spoon
Priced pretty cheep.
Yea
ive had sooo many, the only other one i like as much is myoplex delux MRP's, which is a diff category, but still tastes great.
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
My PW drink includes
2 scoops optimum whey
1 cup oatmeal
1/2 banana
water/ice
I know plenty who use gatorade powder instead of oats, but to each their own i suppose.
2 scoops optimum whey
1 cup oatmeal
1/2 banana
water/ice
I know plenty who use gatorade powder instead of oats, but to each their own i suppose.
you put oatmeal in your shakes? for what purpose, and doesn't that make it chunky?
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
I've tried them all... This is the best on the market hands down.
Taste's like Chocolate milk (Chocolate Flavor)
Mixes with a couple stirs of a spoon
Priced pretty cheep.
Taste's like Chocolate milk (Chocolate Flavor)
Mixes with a couple stirs of a spoon
Priced pretty cheep.
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Originally Posted by TinkyWinky
Does Optimum Whey Protein have micelled caseins? I've read some online material and this stuff is digested very slowly (over 3-7 hours), which is why muscle milk can be taken at bedtime.
I'd recommend Cottage Cheese, and a nice glass of milk before bed. Very slow digesting proteins. And it's also good to throw in some EFA's (good fats) ie: Natural Peanut Butter. I just mix it right into the cottage cheese good shiiiit!
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
well it's not worth arguing about heh
ya chicken breast and rice is good, but drinks are usually perfered due to faster absoprtion, but then again, im sure it dosent make all that much of a difference.
Persoanally, i like keeping my insulin low all day, even after the post workout.
My PW drink includes
2 scoops optimum whey
1 cup oatmeal
1/2 banana
water/ice
I know plenty who use gatorade powder instead of oats, but to each their own i suppose.
ya chicken breast and rice is good, but drinks are usually perfered due to faster absoprtion, but then again, im sure it dosent make all that much of a difference.
Persoanally, i like keeping my insulin low all day, even after the post workout.
My PW drink includes
2 scoops optimum whey
1 cup oatmeal
1/2 banana
water/ice
I know plenty who use gatorade powder instead of oats, but to each their own i suppose.
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
Nope. Its just mainly a Whey protein with essential amino acids. Its perfect for first thing in the morning, and before/after a workout. I dunno if I would believe that the Muscle Milk is slowly digested over 3-7 hours, seems like a marketing lie.
I'd recommend Cottage Cheese, and a nice glass of milk before bed. Very slow digesting proteins. And it's also good to throw in some EFA's (good fats) ie: Natural Peanut Butter. I just mix it right into the cottage cheese good shiiiit!
I'd recommend Cottage Cheese, and a nice glass of milk before bed. Very slow digesting proteins. And it's also good to throw in some EFA's (good fats) ie: Natural Peanut Butter. I just mix it right into the cottage cheese good shiiiit!
Peanut butter + Cottage Cheese? Hmmmm...Perhaps I will try it at least once.
But I will definitely get some Optimum Whey for the mornings. My usual breakfast is a Grande Americano. Perhaps I can use it as a chaser.
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
you put oatmeal in your shakes? for what purpose, and doesn't that make it chunky?
oatmeal=low GI carbs, very healthy source, i blend it, till smooth
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
Nope. Its just mainly a Whey protein with essential amino acids. Its perfect for first thing in the morning, and before/after a workout. I dunno if I would believe that the Muscle Milk is slowly digested over 3-7 hours, seems like a marketing lie.
I'd recommend Cottage Cheese, and a nice glass of milk before bed. Very slow digesting proteins. And it's also good to throw in some EFA's (good fats) ie: Natural Peanut Butter. I just mix it right into the cottage cheese good shiiiit!
I'd recommend Cottage Cheese, and a nice glass of milk before bed. Very slow digesting proteins. And it's also good to throw in some EFA's (good fats) ie: Natural Peanut Butter. I just mix it right into the cottage cheese good shiiiit!
no way ! i thought i was the only person who did this! i made some posts on the site!
low sodium cottage cheese, 2 tsbp natty PB, some fiber one, and a lil sliced bananas, ! awesome slow digesting proteins for the night!
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
I have that same exact shake, but I use 2 cups of Milk, instead of water. Actually the gatorade powder is good, because you want an insulin spike after your workout. But I think the banana does a well enough job....Maybe you can buy some Dextrose...
Yea, i avoid the milk due to absorption reasons, but im sure it matters not .
I never really went with the inuslin spike post workout, but then again, the banana has a high GI.
R0dxx we seem to have alot in common with our likeness for lifting/nutrition
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kinda off topic but, what do you guys know about methyl-d? my friend was tallking about it and i'd to know if it is to to use and if it is effective.
although i know a ton about lifting/nutrition, steroids and prohormones, which im assuming your talking about, i dont know much about. Sorry .
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50 mg Ephedra (stockpile of 9 bottles, FUCK THE FDA) :clenches chest:
1 Aspirin
3 Flax Seed Oil soft gels
1 Caffeine Pill
=
My get cut or literally die trying cocktail
Take that 2 times a day
I am a b
1 Aspirin
3 Flax Seed Oil soft gels
1 Caffeine Pill
=
My get cut or literally die trying cocktail
Take that 2 times a day
I am a b
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Are you trying to cut up Tampa?
That stack is quite good
(i have 17 bottles of epehdra )
Epehdra+caffeine = ultimate fat burner, im off of it all now since im not trying to lose weight at the moment, and i dont like staying on the stuff for more then a few months at a time.
That stack is quite good
(i have 17 bottles of epehdra )
Epehdra+caffeine = ultimate fat burner, im off of it all now since im not trying to lose weight at the moment, and i dont like staying on the stuff for more then a few months at a time.
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
no way ! i thought i was the only person who did this! i made some posts on the site!
low sodium cottage cheese, 2 tsbp natty PB, some fiber one, and a lil sliced bananas, ! awesome slow digesting proteins for the night!
low sodium cottage cheese, 2 tsbp natty PB, some fiber one, and a lil sliced bananas, ! awesome slow digesting proteins for the night!
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my PWO shake only contains maltodextrin, dextrose, and whey.
read this article:
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my PWO shake only contains maltodextrin, dextrose, and whey.
read this article:
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/windowofopportunity.php
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Whey protein Isolate is much better than the cheeper more readily used whey protein concentrate. I think this is a good thread, lets keep it up with some good info. for all the wannabe meat head Acura drivers!!!
good link rise!
good link rise!
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cookies & cream muscle milk taste > *
but I must say it's a little expensive. locally about $22-23 for a 2lb. tub, whereas I just picked up a 5lb. tub of Optimum Nutrition's Cookies and Cream for $27. Even though it tastes like shit (shoulda gotten the chocolate), it's pretty light and easy to mix. Goes down easy. But while we're on the topic. You guys are really dedicated to the whole strict diet thing. I dunno about all that dextrose, maltodextrose, etc. All I do is watch what I eat, drink a protein shake after my workout and in the morning and I'm set. Four years ago I weighed 188lbs. and struggled to put up 100lb on the bench. I lost 28 pounds of that in six months from dedicated lifting and diet-monitoring. I was toning for the first 3 years, but now I'm trying to bulk up. Currently, I'm 6'0" 175lbs., 265 bench max, 40 pound dumbbell curls, 165 military press, 315 squats(just started, but still pretty sad), etc. Hopefully, my recent maxing out and protein intake can take me a little further. But shoulder injury's been a bitch.
I'm just here to stand out from a crowd of small, short, asian men.
but I must say it's a little expensive. locally about $22-23 for a 2lb. tub, whereas I just picked up a 5lb. tub of Optimum Nutrition's Cookies and Cream for $27. Even though it tastes like shit (shoulda gotten the chocolate), it's pretty light and easy to mix. Goes down easy. But while we're on the topic. You guys are really dedicated to the whole strict diet thing. I dunno about all that dextrose, maltodextrose, etc. All I do is watch what I eat, drink a protein shake after my workout and in the morning and I'm set. Four years ago I weighed 188lbs. and struggled to put up 100lb on the bench. I lost 28 pounds of that in six months from dedicated lifting and diet-monitoring. I was toning for the first 3 years, but now I'm trying to bulk up. Currently, I'm 6'0" 175lbs., 265 bench max, 40 pound dumbbell curls, 165 military press, 315 squats(just started, but still pretty sad), etc. Hopefully, my recent maxing out and protein intake can take me a little further. But shoulder injury's been a bitch.
I'm just here to stand out from a crowd of small, short, asian men.
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
Are you trying to cut up Tampa?
That stack is quite good
(i have 17 bottles of epehdra )
Epehdra+caffeine = ultimate fat burner, im off of it all now since im not trying to lose weight at the moment, and i dont like staying on the stuff for more then a few months at a time.
That stack is quite good
(i have 17 bottles of epehdra )
Epehdra+caffeine = ultimate fat burner, im off of it all now since im not trying to lose weight at the moment, and i dont like staying on the stuff for more then a few months at a time.
Me too
Never stop working out, I stopped working out for a year now and gained 50 lbs...no lie 50 lbs in one years time. So now I have to get back in shape, I still got the muscle but its not cute with fat on top of it.
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50 mg Ephedra (stockpile of 9 bottles, FUCK THE FDA) :clenches chest:
1 Aspirin
3 Flax Seed Oil soft gels
1 Caffeine Pill
=
My get cut or literally die trying cocktail
Take that 2 times a day
I am a b
1 Aspirin
3 Flax Seed Oil soft gels
1 Caffeine Pill
=
My get cut or literally die trying cocktail
Take that 2 times a day
I am a b
and as for "Muscle Milk" correct me if I'm wrong... but doesn't it have high in sat. fat?
Personally, I just try to eat FOOD chicken breast every 3 hours, 1 cup oat meal in the morning... but IF I have to.... I'll go with a protein shake... it's better than starving.
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http://www.vitasprings.com/vasopro-ephedrine-hcl.html
Its made for people with asthma but it is pure ephedrine. I have done a lot of research on it and from bodybuilding.com message board and my personal use it works fine. Instead of using Xenadrine you can order the pure stuff and try it yourself. You can find it online for $8 a bottle and what I did was stock up on them for now while they are off the ban list. You can even buy them on Amazon.com. But if you want to do reasearch go right ahead cause they talk about it on a lot of fitness boards and in articles.
Its made for people with asthma but it is pure ephedrine. I have done a lot of research on it and from bodybuilding.com message board and my personal use it works fine. Instead of using Xenadrine you can order the pure stuff and try it yourself. You can find it online for $8 a bottle and what I did was stock up on them for now while they are off the ban list. You can even buy them on Amazon.com. But if you want to do reasearch go right ahead cause they talk about it on a lot of fitness boards and in articles.
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Originally Posted by MikeyTampa
Me too
Never stop working out, I stopped working out for a year now and gained 50 lbs...no lie 50 lbs in one years time. So now I have to get back in shape, I still got the muscle but its not cute with fat on top of it.
Never stop working out, I stopped working out for a year now and gained 50 lbs...no lie 50 lbs in one years time. So now I have to get back in shape, I still got the muscle but its not cute with fat on top of it.
well, that's what I do with my clients anyway... so, it may or may not work for you...
or you might be motivated enough already, and don't need that little advice.
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Originally Posted by MikeyTampa
http://www.vitasprings.com/vasopro-ephedrine-hcl.html
Its made for people with asthma but it is pure ephedrine. I have done a lot of research on it and from bodybuilding.com message board and my personal use it works fine. Instead of using Xenadrine you can order the pure stuff and try it yourself. You can find it online for $8 a bottle and what I did was stock up on them for now while they are off the ban list. You can even buy them on Amazon.com. But if you want to do reasearch go right ahead cause they talk about it on a lot of fitness boards and in articles.
Its made for people with asthma but it is pure ephedrine. I have done a lot of research on it and from bodybuilding.com message board and my personal use it works fine. Instead of using Xenadrine you can order the pure stuff and try it yourself. You can find it online for $8 a bottle and what I did was stock up on them for now while they are off the ban list. You can even buy them on Amazon.com. But if you want to do reasearch go right ahead cause they talk about it on a lot of fitness boards and in articles.
ya know what? I've seen that at the store I go to... and didn't think it had actual ephedra in it, I thought it was just another wanna be weight loss pill... how is it that they can sell it? How did they get by the "law"?
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Originally Posted by is300eater
ya know what? I've seen that at the store I go to... and didn't think it had actual ephedra in it, I thought it was just another wanna be weight loss pill... how is it that they can sell it? How did they get by the "law"?
I am not even going to front like I know but from what I have read other people say is that this is synthetic and they only banned Natural Ephedra. From what people say it has the same effect, I really dont know because Ephedra never effected me either. I haven't been working out at my peak yet so I really don't know if they are just as good but they seem ok. I would read up on them, cause who knows maybe they just have a placebo effect. They do have a warning on them though.
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=5601
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Originally Posted by is300eater
ya know what? I've seen that at the store I go to... and didn't think it had actual ephedra in it, I thought it was just another wanna be weight loss pill... how is it that they can sell it? How did they get by the "law"?
BTW, to answer the orginal question Optuim Nutrition whey > *.