Mizouse

Yea nutrition was bad, hence why I inflated 25lbs in such a short time.
Also due to super stressing because of work

Anyways I've been back on the semi-clean eating diet I was doing before. And portion controlling on meals I don't have as much control over.

I just barely started so I'm not expecting crazy results yet, but I can already tell something is working just by how my clothes fit.

Yumcha

Most importantly, M, stick with it.

Diet is uber-critical. Drink lots of water and make sure your daily fiber intake is good. Raw fruits and vegetables for the next couple of weeks (i.e. weekdays) would be ideal if you can pull it off.

Yumcha

That being said, given where you are, and the good/delicious restaurants/eateries around you, it's difficult.

Who knows I'd be a fat@$$ if I lived where you guys did.

mdkxtreme

Yea and I'm sure that Phils BBQ date with Jay didn't help either huh

Yumcha

@ Phil's BBQ...

Mizouse

Yea...

Yumcha

Wait...you went again without me?!??

Mizouse

No, he's talking about the same trip

Mizouse

If it was my old way, is have ordered a full slab or ribs and half or maybe a whole chicken

Yumcha

The one where you met a Canadian twig and his family...? But, if memory is correct, there was no person named Jay on that trip...?

mdkxtreme

Jonathan (asianspec)? I call him Jay. Or at least he told me to call him Jay.

Mizouse

I call him J as in just the letter J

Didn't know it was supposed to be "jay"

Yumcha

Ohhhh...ah-so!

Then, by all accounts, everyone at Phil's ate too much and needed to be wheeled out of the restaurant. Miz probably is still digesting that meal.

mdkxtreme

Ahahah well I didn't want to just type J because it looked weird for a name so I just sounded it out. But same phonic haha.

Yumcha

Ah...well, there is a "Jay" too. So, hence why the confusion.

oo7spy

This thread reminds me of the time Homer J. Simpson learned of his middle name.

Doom878

Compound lifts are the best. Throw in some sprints instead of cardio once in a while. I lost a ton doing high intensity stuff. Keep up the good work

Mizouse

Hmm started July 9th. Since then I've lost about 7lbs and 1% BF

Yumcha

Keep it up, sir!

mdkxtreme

7 pounds in a month is not bad man!

I've been trying to cut and I've lost 10 lbs in a month but that's because I've been dropping carbs completely (except for broccoli's). I don't think you're dropping carbs like I am so yea, 7 lbs is great progress.

cu2wagon

That much loss per month is unsustainable (unless you're like morbidly obese). I don't mean that in a discouraging manner, rather as a be aware that the loss rate slows down and gets more difficult as time goes on. Don't get discouraged when it happens- it's normal.

That's one of the reasons dieticians cringe at binge diets or these fad diets. People switch to Adkins, or Paleo, or whatever the diet du jour is, drop a bunch of weight the first month or two and then nature catches up with them and the weight loss slows or actually reverts.

But damn does it feel good to step in the scale and see a major change like that! Keep up the healthy and balanced eating, keep at the gym, and remember that 1-3 lbs/month is pretty normal and healthy.

I'm getting ready for a final round of training for the year and am not looking forward to all the salads. Need to cut 10-15 lbs by January so it's time for veg and cardio.

Good luck Miz!

Mizouse

well if my BMI is anything to go by i am considered obese

cu2wagon

But not morbidly? Because really, BMI of obese is about the American average right now, perhaps a little lower than average. (And I mean no disrespect or rudeness about any of this, just being direct)

But I suppose you can figure a few months of rapid loss before the taper, but still; don't be surprised by the slow down. FWIW, I like to keep track of weight, %fat, and %muscle. BMI comes along but I don't really pay much attention.

Weight is fine but pay attention to the percentages. You'll hit a tipover point where %muscle has increased and %fat has decreased and your weight isn't changing or starts to go back up. Just looking at weight isn't telling the full story, you gotta think about what's really happening.

Sorry if this is old info or been said before. But sometimes it helps to hear it again. Keep at it!

kurtatx

BMI is crappy. Weight lifters are obese in BMI. I would just focus on being active, feeling good, and occasionally evaluating your weight.

mdkxtreme

I don't disagree at all. But I think I'm doing OK. My project manager won 3rd place in a physique competition and he's my coach for nutrition.

When I came back from Iraq I was a good 150lbs at 5'8". Finished my 6 years and injuring my ACL playing basketball got me up to 188lbs. I haven't been able to run due to needing one more surgery. I'm not going on a huge deficit in calories. I'm trying to burn fat while maintaining the muscle that I gained at 188lbs and trying to achieve physique rather than being skinny at this point.

Although I did ask my coworker I was afraid I'm losing weight too fast but he said its fine. I trust him haha. I'm currently at 175 and I'm pretty addicted to this healthier lifestyle.

cu2wagon

^^^

Yeah, totally agree. It's not a bad thing per se, just don't expect to maintain a high rate of loss up to your "ideal" weight.

You can lose a lot quickly when you have a lot to lose. As you get leaner, the losses get smaller since you have less to lose.

My main point was to say that it's normal and not to get discouraged. I've seen a lot of people fall off the wagon when the losses slow down. It's easy to look back and think "we'll, I lost xx lbs when I started 6 months ago and I was just barely working out. Now I'm cranking in the gym, eating right, and I only lost x this month". But physiologically, your body has morphed and you've cut the low hanging fruit and are working on the middle of the tree, so to speak. That's the time to get encouraged and keep rocking, not get sad and eat cakes (man, I miss cake).

Also, everyone is different. Sounds like you know what you want and are in the right track!

Doom878

If you're too lazy like I am to measure BMI and know that # of pounds is meh, how do your clothes feel tightnesswise. How do you look. What do people tell you because they will say something. And yes most importantly how do you feel as far as how you sleep, tiredness at work, and energy while training.

And yes you guys described the health industry. Shit is so psychological. Look how fast you lost weight in month 1. My method is the best!! I've seen my friends go to the same gym and do the same shit with the same weight and look exactly the same and not make any type of progression.

wndrlst

That's so nuts, I did the same thing! Gained 30 pounds in 8 months or so. It was ridiculous. Then I lost almost half of it in a week.





The last 10# is taking a little longer.


Glad you're back to taking better care of yourself, Matt.

Doom878

I just saw a video that even how much weight you can lift does that also. Initially you jump pretty quickly but then you hit a nice plateau. It's never a straight line in the pounds/time ratio.

thoiboi

You're not fat Miz, just more to love


I'm in hotels 4 days a week and eat out every meal so it's been tough to keep a steady diet going.... Been trying to pick the healthy options when going out but when the company picks up the tab.. it's hard to not order that steak or add that lobster tail ...


Luckily for me, my metabolism is still fast and I'm still young-ish but it's going to stop so I better fix my habits before they do..

Doom878

Eat the steak and lobster tail. But with a salad.

thoiboi

OH and the diet coke?

Doom878

Yeah but don't go too crazy on calories either

Mizouse

I'd skip the soda all together, but that's just me.

cu2wagon

Iced Tea...

Or Scotch.

oo7spy

I think BMI is a reasonable measure for 90-95% of people. The point where it gets complicated is when there is significant muscle mass. I have always been athletic, and I probably carry muscle mass in the 90th percentile of Americans. With that in mind, my BMI is a pretty good indicator of my physical health. If you are a body builder or a regular lifter, the number can be misleading, and body fat % is a much better indication. However, the vast majority of people can rely on the BMI as a reasonable metric.

oo7spy

I was blown away what removing soda and mayonnaise (ranch included) did for me in college. If I remove alcohol all together in addition to those, I have a hard time staying up at my target weight.

thoiboi

I kid. I don't drink soda. Dihydrogen monoxide is my poison of choice... Sometimes something stronger if clients were being extra stupid that day





(In my case, that's everyday)

stogie1020

Most people put on winter weight due to being stuck indoors.

I put on summer weight for the same reason. I am up about 5-7 pounds right now, need to get back into some type of indoor videos...

Mizouse

Quick up date. Weight loss is 10#, but if the BI scale is to be trusted, I've lost 3% BF 28>25%

I don't believe it, if I did lose 3% it's definitely not in my tummy

Squats I'm up to 160# working set
Deadlift I'm at 160#
Bench I'm around 145#
Bent over row 115#
Overhead press 90#



I do a few other lifts but they're mostly accessory lifts