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Old 09-24-2013, 06:51 PM
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I am about to have the Torque coverter replaced with the software upgrade on my 2010 SH-AWD.. Anybody know if they have to drop the tranny to do this? If so any concerns or things to look out for?
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I was told that they flush out the transmission fluid and then they hook it up to the computer and do the upgrade.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:43 AM
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I honestly don't know.
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Well got car back from dealer and it runs better than New. TC fixed everything!!!
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:32 PM
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Good deal and glad to hear.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:59 PM
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Had mine done 2 weeks ago has to go back in, leaking transmission fluid.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:16 PM
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Sorry to hear, but I'd like think a leak is relatively minor compared to where you were before.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:38 AM
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Hey, maybe someone should start yet another thread about this issue.
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:07 AM
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Re: TQ 2010 TL SH-AWD

Just had mine done and picked up yesterday. So far it's A-Mazing! Car drives better than ever! only 35k on it and drives like its brand new again! Gears shift fluidly with no hesitation! Third gear easily hits 90mph! Sucks theres way too many probs w/TQ on these cars!Highly recommend purchasing the extended warr without it you'll be on the hook for $1200bucks and a week without a vehicle if it goes out! Happy driving
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2010 Acura TL

I had this issue with my 2010 Acura TL. At low speeds my car would almost grown and RPMS would jump up and down aroud the 1500 RPM mark without me changing pressure on gas pedal. I took in into my dealer 2 twice... they could not replicate the sounds, RPMs jumping, or find a problem... I told them to check the torque converter... After looking at me like I was an alien... they told me that would not be what was causing the problem...

I decided to have hard core proof - so I videotaped the RPMS jumping with my phone. I recorded it on three different occassions.

I took my car back in today.... sent them the video clips from my phone.... they think its the torque converter.... THANKS GUYS!!!!!
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:18 PM
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Don't they know we all talk by now? LOL
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:22 PM
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Don't they know we all talk by now? LOL
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Acurat TL Torque Converter issues

I have the same issue for a Canadian 2010 SH AWD TL. Took the mechanic for a ride and he noticed the rumble at low RPM's. He noticed the tachometer fluctuating as the rumble occurred.
This part is covered by the Power Train warranty. It requires a complete day of labour as the transmission needs to be removed. The TC weighs approximately 50 lbs so not a one person job. Will solve the problem but no guarantee that the problem will not repeat itself. Hope this helps!
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I have the same issue for a Canadian 2010 SH AWD TL. Took the mechanic for a ride and he noticed the rumble at low RPM's. He noticed the tachometer fluctuating as the rumble occurred.
This part is covered by the Power Train warranty. It requires a complete day of labour as the transmission needs to be removed. The TC weighs approximately 50 lbs so not a one person job. Will solve the problem but no guarantee that the problem will not repeat itself. Hope this helps!
You should check other threads before you have this work done. There is a TSB on this. Not sure the tranny needs to be pulled.

I had my TC replaced a couple years ago because of this issue, but didn't have the software upgrade done. I still have the issue. Will they do the upgrade at no charge with 132k miles on my car?
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:36 AM
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I'm assuming only Automatic trannys are affected by this?
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:23 PM
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I'm assuming only Automatic trannys are affected by this?
Manual transmissions do not have lockup torque converters.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:34 PM
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Im glad I searched for this post.

So I believe I am having this issue but I want to confirm. Everytime I am driving in the city and I am about to come to a stop, when I am braking and my vehicle decelerates to about 20-25 mph, there is this "shake/rattle/vibration" that occurs. I cannot hear it when I have the music on but it is very noticeable when the music is off.

Last week I took my car in for service because I had heavy hesitation. I would be at a complete stop, then when I try to accelerate, it would be extremly slow around 2nd gear, then I have to kind of apply more gas pressure so that it "kicks in gear" properly. They told me that I was due for transmission fluid change and transmission firmware upgrade. They performed that and the hesitation seemed to only get slightly better.

So I now feel that shake, rattle, and vibration when decelerating and I dont feel the car as I once did. Could this be related?
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Old 09-04-2014, 01:21 PM
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Hey all...I think I may have this issue as well on my 2012 TL. I have noticed that as I am accelerating...I am getting the feeling like the transmission is randomly disengaging...almost like it's slipping a bit in-between the normal shifts. I get a mild jerk sensation and then it seems to reengage etc. When this happens at the same time a shift is taking place..it can really give an uncomfortable jerk. I went in thinking it was a transmission problem...and they did a "software" update...but that didn't fix it.
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Old 09-04-2014, 02:13 PM
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Hey all...I think I may have this issue as well on my 2012 TL. I have noticed that as I am accelerating...I am getting the feeling like the transmission is randomly disengaging...almost like it's slipping a bit in-between the normal shifts. I get a mild jerk sensation and then it seems to reengage etc. When this happens at the same time a shift is taking place..it can really give an uncomfortable jerk. I went in thinking it was a transmission problem...and they did a "software" update...but that didn't fix it.
I'm getting the same thing. Mine is very mild and I didn't have this when I first got the car (bought used a few months ago).

I know that I have the newest updates so that shouldn't be it. The only thing is that my 2012 is a FWD and from what I've been reading, the TC problems are much more prevalent in the SH-AWDs.

Has anyone heard of a FWD having the TC problems?
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:15 AM
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Hi,

I took this vid of my car yesterday when it started bucking. Does this seem like a torque converter problem? It's a 2013 TL AWD with 16k miles on it. It does this when in light traffic and accelerating at 30mph (which i think is in 4th gear). The video starts off at higher RPMs (3rd i think), then shifts into 4th and starts bucking.

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Old 09-13-2014, 06:39 AM
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Problem Solved!! Thanks to Acurazine!

Originally Posted by colberto View Post
Hey all...I think I may have this issue as well on my 2012 TL. I have noticed that as I am accelerating...I am getting the feeling like the transmission is randomly disengaging...almost like it's slipping a bit in-between the normal shifts. I get a mild jerk sensation and then it seems to reengage etc. When this happens at the same time a shift is taking place..it can really give an uncomfortable jerk. I went in thinking it was a transmission problem...and they did a "software" update...but that didn't fix it.
I took my car in asking specifically for them to perform the needed tests on my torque converter...suspecting that this was the culprit behind my poor driving experience. They quickly found out that indeed this was the cause and I have subsequently had it replaced.

OMG....it's like a new car! Here I had just resolved that this TL was subject to a crappy transmission...poor shifting....etc. Not the case...with a properly working torque converter the TL upshifts and downshifts smoothly with nice acceleration.

The funny thing about these types of issues is that they seem to "gradually" take place such that you often don't notice the changes taking place. Especially if you have limited exposure to driving other cars. It finally was the driving of a new car we purchased along with recent rentals that made me push for getting something done.

Thanks Acurazine for doing what you do best...providing a place where one can learn about the issues that "might" be happening to others and should be looked at. With the knowledge of the torque converter issue...I was able to suggest the team focus on that part...support the proper diagnosis...and get it repaired successfully. I do believe there is a real issue with this part in the '12 TL's and encourage anyone experiencing "jerky" shifts to have it looked at before the 7/70 powertrain warranty expires.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:24 PM
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Took the dealer a long time to find out the problem. Finally we left the car there and said we weren't going to pick it up until they found out the issue and had it fixed. They called us and said it was the Torque Converter it took about 3 days for them to get to it and have it fixed but the dealer kept telling us that it was ok....happy we went back. We know our cars better than they do.
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Angry 2014 Acura TL Judder and hesitation

2014 Acura TL 55000 miles. This car has had a juddering since we bought it. We've taken it back several times and the dealership can't seem to duplicate the problem. They said they will contact us when the new software comes out. It's now been a year and a half and no software update as of yet. Problem occurs when vehicle is cold and in stop and go driving. We look like a bunch of bobbleheads in the car. $40k car and it drives like crap. Awaiting mediation with Acura/Honda for vehicle buy back. It's at the dealership again to let the Factory Rep go on a drive along. Gunn Acura is the only Acura Dealership in town and it's like 40 miles away. I had to do all the research about the problem and present it to the dealership because they couldn't figure it out by themselves. WARNING! I wouldn't recommend buying a Acura. Total nightmare from hell! I recommended they check the torque converter and powertrain module. I'm waiting a call from them now.
Can't wait to hear what they have to say.
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2014 Acura TL 55000 miles. This car has had a juddering since we bought it. We've taken it back several times and the dealership can't seem to duplicate the problem. They said they will contact us when the new software comes out. It's now been a year and a half and no software update as of yet. Problem occurs when vehicle is cold and in stop and go driving. We look like a bunch of bobbleheads in the car. $40k car and it drives like crap. Awaiting mediation with Acura/Honda for vehicle buy back. It's at the dealership again to let the Factory Rep go on a drive along. Gunn Acura is the only Acura Dealership in town and it's like 40 miles away. I had to do all the research about the problem and present it to the dealership because they couldn't figure it out by themselves. WARNING! I wouldn't recommend buying a Acura. Total nightmare from hell! I recommended they check the torque converter and powertrain module. I'm waiting a call from them now.
Can't wait to hear what they have to say.
The new software update came out Aug. 2016 TSB 16-041, Acura extended the warranty 8yrs/105k miles whichever comes first. I received the TSB Recall few months back. My local dealership performed the new software and drain and filled the ATF fluid at no cost, it's been more then a month and the judder is back. I believe it needs a new torque converter and no software will fix the issue. (Enough with the band-aid patch),
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They contacted my wife and told her she could pickup the car. They changed the transmission fluid again (just did that 2 months ago) and it seems like the problem has gone away. What are we to do? Change the transmission fluid every 2 months? The last time they did that the problem came back within 2 days. I don't know what to do?
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Just curious how many of you 4Gers have had issues with your torque converter had had to have it replace. Seems like it's a fairly common issue. Specifically it keeping the transmission in too low of a gear and causing loud vibrations when RPMs are below 1600 while driving.
I am experiencing the same problem. My dealer first told me the vibration was normal at 40mph, the speed at which [they tell me] the engine switches from 6 cyl to 3 cyl; however, the symptoms have become more frequent. They appear at 20ish, 30ish, 40ish, 50ish. I do not experience the vibration while I accelerate through those speeds. My guess is, the symptoms present themselves when the transmission switches gears; and for lack of a more technical expression, the car is coasting.

Suspicious of my dealer, I asked my local mechanic, an AAA garage I used before I bought the TLX; and, he told me it was the torque converter. Until then, I believed my dealer.

The transmission in my TLX was replaced [under warranty] at 28000 miles; I would think that the torque converter was part of the transmission. I guess not.

Needless to say, I had high expectations when I bought my TLX. Previously, I owned a Jag, and got 15 years of trouble free service from that car. I'm not happy with Acura or my dealer. After I submit this reply, I will pull the dealer logo off the trunk. If they want me to advertise for them, I want a car that works and I want to be paid. Fat chance of that happening.

In a perverse way, it's somewhat comforting to know that this is a common problem; and, I'm not crazy. Now, I have some ammunition the next time I visit my dealer.
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I am experiencing the same problem. My dealer first told me the vibration was normal at 40mph, the speed at which [they tell me] the engine switches from 6 cyl to 3 cyl; however, the symptoms have become more frequent. They appear at 20ish, 30ish, 40ish, 50ish. I do not experience the vibration while I accelerate through those speeds. My guess is, the symptoms present themselves when the transmission switches gears; and for lack of a more technical expression, the car is coasting.

Suspicious of my dealer, I asked my local mechanic, an AAA garage I used before I bought the TLX; and, he told me it was the torque converter. Until then, I believed my dealer.

The transmission in my TLX was replaced [under warranty] at 28000 miles; I would think that the torque converter was part of the transmission. I guess not.

Needless to say, I had high expectations when I bought my TLX. Previously, I owned a Jag, and got 15 years of trouble free service from that car. I'm not happy with Acura or my dealer. After I submit this reply, I will pull the dealer logo off the trunk. If they want me to advertise for them, I want a car that works and I want to be paid. Fat chance of that happening.

In a perverse way, it's somewhat comforting to know that this is a common problem; and, I'm not crazy. Now, I have some ammunition the next time I visit my dealer.
The issue with the 4G TL is the way the software locks up the torque converter. Acura updated it and suggests replacing fluid more frequently.

on your TLX the issue is actually worn engine mounts or mounts that need to be neutralized. When VCM kicks in on the TLX it creates vibrations that the mounts are supposed to isolate from the cabin. If the mount is worn or loose it'll allow it to pass. There's a way around this called VCM muzzler which has had good reports.
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No longer disappointed; I am pissed with my Acura dealer.

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The issue with the 4G TL is the way the software locks up the torque converter. Acura updated it and suggests replacing fluid more frequently.

on your TLX the issue is actually worn engine mounts or mounts that need to be neutralized. When VCM kicks in on the TLX it creates vibrations that the mounts are supposed to isolate from the cabin. If the mount is worn or loose it'll allow it to pass. There's a way around this called VCM muzzler which has had good reports.
Thanks for your reply. I've gotten no where with Rick Case Acura in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I was there today; the service manager just poo-pooed this board and bragged about his 30 year experience with Acura, enumerating all his awards.

My 2015 TLX has been giving me trouble for the past two years. I feel like getting a blow up lemon and attaching it to the roof and park it out front of the dealership. I bought a Honda because of its reputation. Yes I know it's an Acura; but, we all know that an Acura is a Honda with a handle-bar mustache painted on it. I'll never buy another Acura again.

Sifting through this thread down to the Black TL, I discovered that owner reported bucking. I get bucking from time to time when the car is cold.

I have already had the transmission replaced on this dog; and, it took a year of pestering them to do it.

I'm between a rock and a hard place. I got no satisfaction from the service manager today.

I told him I was going over his head and contacting Acura USA directly; he didn't seem to care.

Anybody have any other ideas besides calling Acura headquarters directly? The dealer is a brick wall.
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My wife's 2010 TL used to vibrate a little around 40 mph, not sure whether that's torque converter, but after the recent 105K full service including timing belt/water pump, serpentine belt, spark plug, valve adjustment etc. this problem seemed to go away. I don't know what exactly had fixed the issue. Just wanted to share my experience in case it's something else.
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Thanks for your reply. I've gotten no where with Rick Case Acura in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I was there today; the service manager just poo-pooed this board and bragged about his 30 year experience with Acura, enumerating all his awards.

My 2015 TLX has been giving me trouble for the past two years. I feel like getting a blow up lemon and attaching it to the roof and park it out front of the dealership. I bought a Honda because of its reputation. Yes I know it's an Acura; but, we all know that an Acura is a Honda with a handle-bar mustache painted on it. I'll never buy another Acura again.

Sifting through this thread down to the Black TL, I discovered that owner reported bucking. I get bucking from time to time when the car is cold.

I have already had the transmission replaced on this dog; and, it took a year of pestering them to do it.

I'm between a rock and a hard place. I got no satisfaction from the service manager today.

I told him I was going over his head and contacting Acura USA directly; he didn't seem to care.

Anybody have any other ideas besides calling Acura headquarters directly? The dealer is a brick wall.
Do it! Call or Email Acura corporate and tell them. Refrain from mentioning the name of the sites, but tell them youíve read plenty of cases where other owner experience this issue. I did that when I was getting some BS run around from Jenkins Acura up here in Ocala, FL. I had just bought my car used, at 40k, and I was getting the jumpy, bucking, from the TC. They did the drain/fill 1x3 and update and that didnít fix it. The dealer wasnít happy when I mentioned the TSB for if the problem isnít fixed and she said that I would have to wait for the Acura Corp district manager to come in and drive my car. Oh yeah, heís only at their dealership 1 day a month and he was just there the day before...

So, I emailed Acura Corp and about a day or two later that very person called me and after explaining everything to him, he told the dealership to replace my TC. Ring ring, ďHi, this is... from ďĒ Acura dealership...) lol. Iím pretty much done letting other people work on my cars, you canít always trust the service advisors or even the techs (not saying ALL of them) to do the job right and thatís very sad because these people are supposed to be the ones the ones we should trust since theyíre the face of the brand. Itís like the salesmen get a promotion and move up to the service department. ;p Keep the BS on the lot, not in the back...
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