TL vs TLX

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TL vs TLX

I had a 2016 TLX for rental while my '12 TL SH-AWD was at the dealership for the airbag recall. Other than having more options and getting better MPG; I think my TL was more comfortable, quieter, and smoother. I drove the TLX for three days and I missed my TL by the third day. Had anyone else drove the TLX and care to share an opinion?
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yikes! opening a can of worms!
lol


we've had many a discussion on this topic!! lol check previous threads! !

but yes, you'll find many people echoing your sentiments
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Yesh this topic isn't anything new. Many 4G owners, including myself were not moved by the TLX.
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I have a '13 TL Advance and when I replace it, I'm leaning towards either a '16 TLX Advance or a '16 or '17 Accord Touring. I drove a TLX as a loaner from the dealership a couple of years ago. Haven't driven one since. Will definitely drive again before I decide on a TLX. I didn't dislike the TLX when I drove it but don't really remember too much about it since I only had it a very short while.
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Until they come out with a TLX (Type S sort of thing) with around 350 hp I have zero interest. Of course, my 2011 only has 56,000 miles and is paid off. It would take a lot for me to make a move at this point.
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funny thread, i had a tlx v6 awd as a loaner when our tl shawd was getting serviced. I felt the same way. In fact they tried to offer a tradeup incentive and i told the rep at the dealership the tlx needed more power. the rep then told me "so the tlx is too slow with 280hp?" and i said yes. He then got irritated and said "you need a 5.0 mustang then" lol.

Lets hope they push some turbo offerings in the future for acura. v6 turbo would be awesome with awd.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:25 AM
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I have a few small complaints in my TL. But, I am in the process of reversing those. I really love the car. My plan is keep this until the new Lexus LS 500's depreciate in 3-5 years. Until then, my TL is everything I could ever ask for.
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You know that feeling when you get when you just got to third base with a hot chick? That's the TL sh-awd. I can only imagine the 6speed manual
TLX is like getting sloppy drunk and having sex with a thot-next morning your gonna wonder wtf just happened. It didn't feel right then, its not gonna feel right afterwards...
That's my experience anyways.

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Old 03-14-2017, 06:50 PM
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I drove a TLX V6 ShAWD Advance and when i dropped it back off 2 days later my salesman said how did you like it. I said its ok. Felt just ok. He was like , yo thats the top of the line trim. Oh well
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I've had FWD TLXs as service loaners. They're nice cars and surprisingly quick. But they are clearly softened up quite a bit from the 4G TL, and I think - reflecting a trend among most all cars -- a little decontented in terms of the quality of materials. It all fits together nicely and looks good with lots of functionality. But it's just not as satisfying to drive -- to me -- as my 4G.
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My opinion I feel the TLX is more for 3G, Accord,Civic, TSX guys. Most 4G guys seem to go to more big or bigger body style cars. I would more own a V6 Accord Touring over the TLX.
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In my opinion, the rental TLX I had, showed more TSX than TL.
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Which one did you drive, though? Being a rental, there's a good chance you had the 4 cyl.
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It was the v6 with FWD and the AWS.
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that's not a fair comparison!
a buddy has a v6 TSX and all they did was USE EVERYTHING from the 08 TL. it's pretty much the same exact car.
it only made sense to combine the two into one.


ESPECIALLY since the 4G was an abomination


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Old 03-22-2017, 12:10 PM
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Wow, this is a perfect post. I'm currently deciding if I will upgrade to 16 TLX V6 Tech or keep my 14 TL Adv AWD.

I'm beginning to like the exterior looks of TLX especially the jewel lights.
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Originally Posted by CruzanTLSH-AWD
My opinion I feel the TLX is more for 3G, Accord,Civic, TSX guys. Most 4G guys seem to go to more big or bigger body style cars. I would more own a V6 Accord Touring over the TLX.
completely agree. The TLX looks good but the ride is not on par with 4G TL.
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I'm in the same situation with my '14. I was waiting to see what the TLX MMC brings before I make a final decision.

And I know it's silly, but it's the little things that start add up. Carpet pile is thinner, plastics are harder, leather trim is scarcer. Spare tire, now an accessory. Ebony, greystone or expresso interior, doesn't matter you get a grey headliner and black carpet regardless... Want parchment? We give you a beige headliner, but the black carpet stays. 9-speed shifter satin trim is one or two shades off from the surrounding satin finish console trim. That side mirror vent reflection should have been corrected mid-run back in '15, why is it still an issue in '17. ELS optical drive downgraded from DVD to CD, navi and audio interface are 3G TL familiar, but not in a good way... Why do the hard buttons and dial look misaligned under the lower screen? Why do I have to press so many icons for the seat heater, is this really better than a switch? Why does voice recognition still suck? What is this great J engine doing hanging out with this weirdo transmission? Aren't these tires a little skinny? What's up with Consumer Reports, is the TLX really this bad?
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Was not impressed with the TLX at all.

Unless you get SH-AWD you're far better off getting a loaded Accord Touring.
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I was mildly impressed, sound system seemed muted and there were many other things. I did take the time to stop Mr. Perfect place of rest and gave a Curt a thank you. I would think about upgrading to TLX if it was like 3.7 SHAWD twin turbo 400hp/350 Torque version.
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LOL I own a 4G TL and have driven the TLX multiple times. There is NO way that the TL is quieter than the TLX. No way.

The TLX is a good car if you don't already own a 4G TL. I'd look elsewhere when it's time to replace my TL (3 more years to go) unless Acura has some better than it does now.
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I also like the 2017 Accord Touring V6 sedan (with 19 rims) vs TLX V6 Tech, the only thing that the Accord is missing are the paddles.
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I had a TLX 2.4l for about 6 days as a loaner while my RLX was at the dealer. It is a very nice car, and the transmission shifted nicely. But there was no WOW factor. After 2 days I missed my car. My boss has a 2013 TL and his just felt better then the TLX. I almost bought a TLX back in December, man am I glad I drove it for a week because I am definitely not buying one now.
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Originally Posted by RCJD
I also like the 2017 Accord Touring V6 sedan (with 19 rims) vs TLX V6 Tech, the only thing that the Accord is missing are the paddles.
The Accord Sport has paddles - does the Touring not have them?
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
The Accord Sport has paddles - does the Touring not have them?
The Touring does not.
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I had a FWD V6 TLX for 3 days and 300 miles while my 2011 SHAWD 6MT TL was in for warranty service.

Initially, I was unimpressed as the interior could have been from my 06 Accord, but the TLX proved to be a very comfortable, quiet highway cruiser with impressive MPG. It was quick enough, but light and floaty. Soaked up all the bumps and road noise, it would be excellent as a DD or for long drives.

As soon as I got back into my TL, I immediately noticed that the car felt more planted, solid, and aggressive. My TL is louder, but more direct and engaging. Shifting into 3rd and gunning it on the highway made me appreciate my car again. I may be comparing apples to oranges as I haven't driven a FWD 4G TL. I grew to appreciate the TLX, but it excels in different areas. The 4G SHAWD 6MT TL and FWD V6 TLX are for completely different buyers, but both good cars in their own right.
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Originally Posted by CruzanTLSH-AWD
The Touring does not.
What an odd thing to drop? I wonder if any of the V6 models have them or if it's just the 4cyl?
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My 2014 TL shAWD is in for service and they gave me a TLX today for the weekend. Interior seems cheap to me. It is decently quick in sport+ mode but no way would I trade my car for one. Outside looks very boring as well. No imagination what so ever. Might as well be a Camry.
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I just saw the 2017 TLX optioned out at a local auto show. I've also had the car as a loaner multiple times.
Like others have said, this is a upgrade for TSX owners and a downgrade for current 4G TL owners. It's "ok",
but nothing about it wows me. And when I sit in it, I just feel "meh"
I would go accord sport before I went TLX.
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I feel like there has to be a car in between the TLX and the RLX. Make that the true sport sedan and stop trying to combine 2 cars in 1. Call it the SLX or PPX or DMX
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I feel like there has to be a car in between the TLX and the RLX. Make that the true sport sedan and stop trying to combine 2 cars in 1. Call it the SLX or PPX or DMX
no argument there but the pricing I could see being an issue. Doesn't the TLX already cost what the TL used to ? I think if you step it up another 8-10k, you price yourself out of the segment.
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Originally Posted by SilverJ
no argument there but the pricing I could see being an issue. Doesn't the TLX already cost what the TL used to ? I think if you step it up another 8-10k, you price yourself out of the segment.
Acura is going to have to come out with something more aggressive in 2018 or 2019. They really need to release a TL type S with 330-360 horsepower and offer AWD. If they don't do something close to that then I am moving on to a different brand when I get done with my 2014 in a few years. Acura is simply getting left in the dust by Lexus and Infiniti as far as power and imagination goes.
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Originally Posted by ronricks
Acura is going to have to come out with something more aggressive in 2018 or 2019. They really need to release a TL type S with 330-360 horsepower and offer AWD. If they don't do something close to that then I am moving on to a different brand when I get done with my 2014 in a few years. Acura is simply getting left in the dust by Lexus and Infiniti as far as power and imagination goes.
agree. I love the hell out of my TL. But I want to get my wife an Infiniti QX80 and get myself the new LS in a few years
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I currently own both cars a 12 TL 6MT and a 17 TLX SH-AWD Elite ASpec.
To be fair when comparing the cars I think the TLX needs to be set in at least sport mode even for everyday driving.
Sound systems once configured are almost identical.
Seats are fairly equal.
Dashs are different I feel the TL is more Sporty on the inside than the TLX.
The TLX gets way way better fuel mileage and is nearly as quick but not quite.
TLX elite has some really nice safety features, which it is my wife's car so I'm very happy to have when she commutes in bad weather at 4am.
Overall, I wouldn't pay to upgrade from a TL SHAWD to a TLX SHAWD, very similar not worth the 30k difference in cost for the two I bought. Then again its hard to put a price on family and safety so maybe it is worth it for someone you care about.
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The 4G TL was one of the Acura model when the company was starting to push for Tier 1 status, the TLX came out when Acura decided to retrench to its traditional semi-premium slot. The cost cutting is evident everywhere.
Even the new SH-AWD system is simplified compared to the old one, the planetary gear set-ups are gone, now the entire workload to transmit power to the rear wheels rely on the clutch pack like an Haldex sytem.
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no argument there but the pricing I could see being an issue. Doesn't the TLX already cost what the TL used to ? I think if you step it up another 8-10k, you price yourself out of the segment.
My thinking is trim levels have to be simplified. I personally am not a fan of the ILX, I liked the TSX. I feel like if Acura really wants to step up in segments or be a leader in entry premium, drop the ILX, let the TLX be your entry up to a certain cost maybe$33k - $41k, have your middle tier start at $39k up to $48k and then your RLX. So for those that want the 2.4 tlx design up to a v6 you can get it up to a certain level and then you jump to next DMX (lol) as a standard S-type standard 330hp or 345hp SHAWD with a trim level and then you have your RLX. Minus all the details you get this jist of what I'm saying.
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Finally got a loaner last week of a TLX V6 Tech. You guys are correct, TLX does not feel a step up from 4G TL. Its a nice car especially the jewel lights but other than that, the handling is light not much road feel, I'm sure some people might prefer this kind of handling, the acceleration there are some delay at sport mode when you punch it and what did they do with the ELS audio system? That is not the ELS that we have on our TL, I was adjusting the audio set up from parking and while driving and I cannot configure it the way it sounded on my TL, it sounded like a normal Honda audio system? I don't know but this is different. Again, overall its not a bad car but I wont trade it for my TL.
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Originally Posted by SilverJ
I just saw the 2017 TLX optioned out at a local auto show. I've also had the car as a loaner multiple times.
Like others have said, this is a upgrade for TSX owners and a downgrade for current 4G TL owners. It's "ok",
but nothing about it wows me. And when I sit in it, I just feel "meh"
I would go accord sport before I went TLX.
I have been saying this same thing on AZ since I first saw the TLX in person several years ago. In all fairness to the TLX, it did feel more refined than the 4G but on the other hand it felt like it was lacking something.. While there was nothing wrong with the TSX, as we all know it was a model below the TL.

It seems to me that Acura catered more to the TSX buyer when designing the TLX than they did to to the 4G buyer. IMO I honestly feel that Acura built the TLX hoping that the TSX owner would love the upgraded feel without ever considering the 4G TL owner.. Think about it, for the most part, on the road the average person cannot tell the difference between a $32,000 I-4 TLX (TSX), and a $45,000 V6 SHAWD (4G TL)..

IMO I think the RLX should have been the 5G TL, and if priced like a TL they would have sold a lot of them. I don't think the RLX gets the credit it deserves partially due to it's price point. Then Acura could of marketed the TLX as the new TSX while keeping the TSX name, which has/had a following..

I understand that Acura combined the TSX and TL into one model most likely to cut costs. But I just couldn't imagine Lexus combining the IS and GS into one model.
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I have been saying this same thing on AZ since I first saw the TLX in person several years ago. In all fairness to the TLX, it did feel more refined than the 4G but on the other hand it felt like it was lacking something.. While there was nothing wrong with the TSX, as we all know it was a model below the TL.

It seems to me that Acura catered more to the TSX buyer when designing the TLX than they did to to the 4G buyer. IMO I honestly feel that Acura built the TLX hoping that the TSX owner would love the upgraded feel without ever considering the 4G TL owner.. Think about it, for the most part, on the road the average person cannot tell the difference between a $32,000 I-4 TLX (TSX), and a $45,000 V6 SHAWD (4G TL)..

IMO I think the RLX should have been the 5G TL, and if priced like a TL they would have sold a lot of them. I don't think the RLX gets the credit it deserves partially due to it's price point. Then Acura could of marketed the TLX as the new TSX while keeping the TSX name, which has/had a following..

I understand that Acura combined the TSX and TL into one model most likely to cut costs. But I just couldn't imagine Lexus combining the IS and GS into one model.
Agree with all you said.

I personally would buy the RLX to upgrade my TL only if I can get a RLX Tech with SH-AWD for $50K. But it has to be quiet, smooth and somewhat sporty. More than $50K, I'd be rocking a Lexus or a BMW.
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I have been saying this same thing on AZ since I first saw the TLX in person several years ago. In all fairness to the TLX, it did feel more refined than the 4G but on the other hand it felt like it was lacking something.. While there was nothing wrong with the TSX, as we all know it was a model below the TL.

It seems to me that Acura catered more to the TSX buyer when designing the TLX than they did to to the 4G buyer. IMO I honestly feel that Acura built the TLX hoping that the TSX owner would love the upgraded feel without ever considering the 4G TL owner.. Think about it, for the most part, on the road the average person cannot tell the difference between a $32,000 I-4 TLX (TSX), and a $45,000 V6 SHAWD (4G TL)..

IMO I think the RLX should have been the 5G TL, and if priced like a TL they would have sold a lot of them. I don't think the RLX gets the credit it deserves partially due to it's price point. Then Acura could of marketed the TLX as the new TSX while keeping the TSX name, which has/had a following..

I understand that Acura combined the TSX and TL into one model most likely to cut costs. But I just couldn't imagine Lexus combining the IS and GS into one model.


The reason you couldn't imagine the IS/GS simply because you can't do it. As much as Acura wants us to eat that reasoning it just isn't washing down with all the grains of salt about the TLX from the corny infotainment setup, weird back seat hump, shifty transmission etc. I mean what characteristics does the TLX have from the TL(4G)? Absolutely none. Wheel base> Cmone gimmie a break. The TLX is a very nice TSX/3G TL. Acura wanted to remove themselves from the 4G. They did because nothing reminds you of it. TLX is what the 3G should've been and the TSX engine / powertrain options have been retro-fitted (if you will) into the TLX and that's your true combo. The 04-08 TL combo with TSX. The 4G is bigger, firmer, more planted as the TLX feels very light. When I decide I want a smaller feel vehicle I'll do a AWD TLX if I stay with Acura but we really need to look at the TLX as the 3GTL/TSX combo and not 4G and it really puts this discussion to bed. Just my opinion.
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