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Nate Washington 06-22-2017 10:30 AM

Power steering
 
I have a 2013 TL and my power steering is going in and out. "Check power steering system" alert flashes and will not stop. It went away for about a day and then displayed the message again. When the message is not appearing my steering works fine. Has anyone experienced this before?

justnspace 06-22-2017 10:37 AM

this is what I could find....

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 14676747)
I was attending a local High School tennis match with my Son.

We get in the car after the match only to see in the MID "CHECK POWER STEERING SYSTEM" displayed. WTF? The steering wheel will barely turn.

After several attempts at turning on/off the car, I get the car towed to the Acura dealer and await the news.

The computer that controls the Electronic Power Steering System is dead. The service writer kept saying, "We've never seen this before." I'm sure they don't have any 2012 TSX's with 73,000 miles either.

I expressed my concern that this shouldn't fail so early in the car's life. I asked the service writer to ask for some concession from Acura. I'm a 5-time Honda owner.
Acura threw me a bone (not 100% coverage but...).

This doesn't inspire confidence!!!

although the post is from a TSX, it's still an electronic power steering motor
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tsx-...ailure-896558/

they even listed the EPS module part #

Reorge 06-26-2017 09:13 AM

The is a thread concerning this issue that might apply to your situation.
Search this forum for: EPS

Nate Washington 06-26-2017 09:35 AM

Thank you

TheMuffinMan 06-28-2017 02:18 PM

I went through the replacement and troubleshooting of mine. Check my started threads.

fryrice 06-28-2017 04:34 PM

I had the same problem when I was driving on the highway. The EPS was trashed and the dealership wanted $1400 for it. Went back to them and ask for a concession, only paid $250 and Acura forked up the rest. The module is only like $500 but getting to it is a pain.

Make sure you tell your dealership to give Acura a call and not pay for the full amount. It is BS that this unit fails in less than 5 years of owning the car.

wardchb8 07-19-2017 04:35 PM

Just went through this situation and it was very frustrating. I have a 2012 Acura TL with 116,500 miles on it. I left my car at the airport for 4 days for a trip. I get in it when I get back and the power steering is out. The tech said a low battery could have cause the EPS module to go out. So they replace the module and the battery and leave me with a $1,100 bill. I call Acura and make a claim, they offer me 50% to help. I took it because it was better than nothing, but still not happy about a $650 bill.

TheMuffinMan 07-20-2017 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by fryrice (Post 16048242)
I had the same problem when I was driving on the highway. The EPS was trashed and the dealership wanted $1400 for it. Went back to them and ask for a concession, only paid $250 and Acura forked up the rest. The module is only like $500 but getting to it is a pain.

Make sure you tell your dealership to give Acura a call and not pay for the full amount. It is BS that this unit fails in less than 5 years of owning the car.


Originally Posted by wardchb8 (Post 16060969)
Just went through this situation and it was very frustrating. I have a 2012 Acura TL with 116,500 miles on it. I left my car at the airport for 4 days for a trip. I get in it when I get back and the power steering is out. The tech said a low battery could have cause the EPS module to go out. So they replace the module and the battery and leave me with a $1,100 bill. I call Acura and make a claim, they offer me 50% to help. I took it because it was better than nothing, but still not happy about a $650 bill.

If your car is outside of the warranty window I'm not sure what you guys expected...

116k miles is absolutely well above and beyond the warranty of the vehicle. If it's a 2012 you're also outside of the year range. The module is ~$500 list price IIRC (it's in my thread) and is ~1-2 hours of labor. This should be a ~$700 total cost. Scroll down to see where my costs were

https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-p...ailure-952083/

waygooder 05-13-2018 09:32 AM

2013 Acura TL - Power Steering Module (EPS) failed
 
Have an 2013 Acura TL with 77k miles, went to start the car in the garage this morning and the 'check power steering system' light came on. Good thing it happened at home and not somewhere else when i would have had to had it towed.

Checked the fuse under the hood and all was good, proceeding to get a replacement EPS module for install. Not a difficult job but getting it out of the space was a royal pain. Had to remove the fuse panel to drop it out of the way first. The part is a pricey one for sure - new 450 to 650 USD and used about 300 USD, decided to go ahead with a new one since the car still has plenty of life remaining. Will report back if the fix solves the problem.

Rachelle Myrick 07-03-2018 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by waygooder (Post 16232953)
Have an 2013 Acura TL with 77k miles, went to start the car in the garage this morning and the 'check power steering system' light came on. Good thing it happened at home and not somewhere else when i would have had to had it towed.

Checked the fuse under the hood and all was good, proceeding to get a replacement EPS module for install. Not a difficult job but getting it out of the space was a royal pain. Had to remove the fuse panel to drop it out of the way first. The part is a pricey one for sure - new 450 to 650 USD and used about 300 USD, decided to go ahead with a new one since the car still has plenty of life remaining. Will report back if the fix solves the problem.

Help.....I have an Acura 2013 TSX 83k miles. System failed. I’m in LA area. I’m going through this now. A couple months ago did the air bag recall. Then this. What was the final outcome? My quote total $1700 😩

waygooder 07-03-2018 05:06 AM

The fix for this power steering problem was replacement of the power steering module and then a reset of the steering wheel torque. The part was quoted from the dealer for 650 USD, however, I did find one online for 450 USD. Swapping out the part was not difficult, but getting to it required removal of the glove box and fuse panel on the passenger side --- about 45 minutes of work just to get to it. For the steering wheel torque reset, I found a thread online and followed the procedure but did not completely solve the issue. Ultimately took it to the dealer for them to do the steering wheel torque reset and all was fixed (200 USD). All in all, a bit frustrating to have this failure - but I do enjoy driving the car and it is paid for.

bpc2646 11-16-2018 01:32 PM

Same issue happened on my car (2013 w/ 80k) while driving in rush hour traffic yesterday. One minute it was fine and then the dash lit up and practically no steering. The car was a brute to get off the highway and into a safe spot for towing. I have it sitting in my driveway now, waiting on a tow to the dealer. I read this post and a few others, so I called the local dealer this morning and they offered no help and assured me that this is not a common issue. I then called Acura to make a complaint, the gist of the conversation was NO Warranty = Not our problem. I am hoping that when I get it into the dealer and they offer an "official' diagnosis Acura will come to their senses. In the meantime I went to the NHTSA website and filed a complaint that this issue is common enough that something should be done about it and that when the steering fails, the occupants are at risk. I'll hold that in my back pocket for now.

For those that have had Acura pitch in, what was your conversation like? The guy on the phone with me was adamant that there's nothing they can do for a car with no extended warranty.

Side note: This gives me flashbacks to my 2008 A4 that had a crankshaft position sensor fail @156k... they extended the warranty on cars made through '07 that had under 150k for the same issue I experienced. Offered to fix mine as a courtesy only if I had less than 150k (even though it was an '08). So missed the year cut off and mileage cutoff = $3500 to rebuild the top end of engine. Not even 6 mo later the engine was toast because particulates from the demolished sensor got sucked up out of the oil pan and into the engine. Cue tremendous amounts of anger and my purchase of a slightly used Acura. Here I sit...

EE4Life 04-19-2019 07:14 AM

See TSB 19-021 - Warranty Extension: Steering Feels Heavy, EPS Indicator Blinks with No DTCs or Comes On Steady with DTC 32-09, 32-08, or 61-04 in the 2012, 2013, and 2014 TSB threads.

https://acurazine.com/forums/fourth-...inside-945434/


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