raffijian

I am about to purchase this '13 6MT TL and I noticed underneath what looks like fluid leaking.

Not an expert but this pic was below the engine area, I believe.

Anyone familiar with this or know if it's an issue I should be cautious of? I was told it could be rear differential or transmission fluid but not sure.

Car has 40,000 miles on it and I am planning on buying it from a Honda dealer.

Thanks.

justnspace

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dont buy it.

justnspace

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that black cover isnt stock. and i can see under the black cover is a fucking giant hole. dont buy that POS

raffijian

Do you know what that cover is for or what part it is?

Thanks.

justnspace

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there's a giant hole. it doesnt matter what part it is. a giant hole.

you mentioned it's up front. that would either be the oil pan or tranny pan.
I cant tell because of the black cover. some one tried to cover the hole.

if it is oil pan, you can replace the pan...HOWEVER, you dont know how long the engine was ran without oil.FUCK THAT.

Now, you're looking at possible engine damage.... because of oil starvation.

pass this car up. Dont buy

justnspace

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i'm more inclined to say it's the tranny. which you cant replace the pan by itself.
dont fucking buy this car

justnspace

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yes. there's a GIANT FUCKING HOLE. be very cautious.

TacoBello

Justin, what the hell are you rambling about? I cannot tell what I'm looking at (camera is too close), but it looks like the screw holding the black plate in place is meant to be there. It screws in perfectly into the metal backing that has provisions for a screw there anyway.

again- can't tell what I'm looking at, but, it doesn't look jimmy rigged to me. That's not to say there isn't a gasket leak there... obviously something is going on.

cu2wagon

But other than the giant hole... Does it look okay, or nah?




Also, it's hard to tell what's going on there. Better pics?

justnspace

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TacoBello

The bottom edge of that black plate follows the metal backing behind it ever so perfectly. Whatever that is, looks like it's supposed to be there.

justnspace

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there's a hole in my bucket, dear liza dear liza....there's a hole in my bucket dear liza.

cu2wagon

Is the hole you're talking about the little half moon to the left of the lower-center bolt on that black sheet metal cover?

TacoBello

The right circle is just dirt or whatever

cu2wagon

That rightmost red circle you have looks like black paint transfer to me. Not a hole. The leftmost circle looks like a machined weep hole or something.

TacoBello

There's also that gaping hole on the bottom right corner of the black plate... not sure if something was broken off, or if it's supposed to look like that. Picture is blurry when I try to get a better look.

justnspace

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okay but still the leftmost "hole" has jagged metal

TacoBello

Yeah but who the fuck knows what's on the other side... the black plate looks like a shield, not an oil cover of any kind. If it's supposed to hold oil in, it wouldn't be held in place with one screw, at the very bottom.

justnspace

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i dont think it's there to hold oil in. i think it's there to hide whatever damage there is.

we can all agree that those are impact marks...the black dirt/marks?

and can we all agree on not buying this?!
i still believe that's the tranny....if thats the tranny....that's not the drain bolt.

cu2wagon

Looks like it might be casting flash. Doesn't look like smeared metal because there's no real negative material it would have smeared from.

TacoBello

Also, the car is coming from a Honda dealer, which means it likely has warranty of some kind on it. I'm guessing OP has test driven the car with no issues. I would ask the dealership to look into and/or repair whatever that leak is, prior to signing any paperwork for the car.

Personally, I think Justin is making a mountain out of a mole hill, without enough information. If you see the leak, ask the dealer to diagnose and fix!

justnspace

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I just dont want the OP to get bitten.
if the dealer is making him figure it out.....the dealer doesnt care

TacoBello

so you're saying someone made a custom cover plate to perfectly fit over whatever that is, cut to perfect standards to look as if it should be there? Get da fuck outta here! Also, car is sold by Honda dealership. They aren't going to sell a car with fluid dripping out from the bottom of the car and wish you the best, on your way out.

BreezyTL

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I believe this may be a leaking rear main seal. Located between the block and transmission. Correct me if I am wrong.

cu2wagon

Also, the hole seems too perfectly round to be a punch-through. It was meant to be there.

I can't find that on the parts diagrams (mainly because I can't find what combination has the '13 w/ MT) but it looks like an exhaust pipe right at the upper foreground of the picture. The black cover has some rusty spotting appearance at the top which looks to me like it got hot and oxidized. Maybe it's a heat shield?

TacoBello

i don't want him to get burned either, but, who's to say the dealership even looked at the car? Got it in on trade, it's four years old only, check tires, check brakes, ok good to sell!

justnspace

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you're the metal guy!

TacoBello

im thinking it's some kind of seal also. Fuck, if only I could tell where this picture was taken from.

BreezyTL

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I found this similar picture of a 07 RL trans. Looks like that is what it is.

justnspace

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tranny, i knew it wasnt the drain bolt

raffijian

The picture was taken while it was on a lift. My buddy did a quick peak when I took it for a test drive. It drove fine from what I could tell.

I did inform the dealer of the leak and they said they are going to take it to an Acura dealer to diagnose/fix.

I am going to insist that they warranty this anyway and provide some proof that the issue was addressed and taken care of as I don't want to get burned, even with a warranty from the dealer.

BreezyTL

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09-14 Engine

Majofo

That's just the flywheel cover.. it doesn't look original.. but there is no fluid there.
So even though there appears to be a hole near the cover, it shouldn't effect the vehicle.

The fluid is probably from rear main seal. It's not a lot but it's something.
It could also be blown from somewhere else since it's one of the lowest points of the powertrain
Get it thoroughly checked out.

I can assure you though.. that pot mark.. plate cover is not a big deal.
It could be indicative that a trans / engine replacement has occurred at some point though.
Could be as simple as a shitty trans drop clutch install.. but get it inspected before buying.
Not a deal breaker in my book.

Majofo

I'm also ashamed of most of you in here.. shame.

justnspace

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<--------Dsian

BreezyTL

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I was thinking Justin never looked at the bottom of his motor before to know what the shield is for!!

rockstar143

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AFFECT!



So, OP, did you buy it?
I think Justin was tryna snag it from out from under you.

cu2wagon

I had the same thought...

losiglow

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Maybe someone with a 6MT 4G TL could get under their car and take a look to see if they have the same thing.

Majofo

I'm super ashamed of you