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Old 08-20-2012, 05:37 AM
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How is the 4th Generation TL holding up?

I was curious to know how are cars are holding up! I would like an update of how many miles are on your cars and what major problems you have had so far. Mods and normal wear and tear don't count!

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2010, 28,000 Miles
No Problems, just a premature battery failure.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:11 AM
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OEM batteries... i'm sure the heat in FL didnt' help it's life out either. i fyou replaced with OEM...expect the battery to go in about the same time the first one did.
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2009 38k miles
Rattles in the A pillar (common problem) and 2 blown speakers (when I first got the car and again a few months later, both replaced as it was a manufacture/technician install error)
Old 08-20-2012, 08:52 AM
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2010 SH AWD 38500 miles, center caps had a weird corrosion problem at 2k, dealer replaced. the usual rattles, no other issues. car traded in for a 2012, original brakes and tires.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TLtrigirl
OEM batteries... i'm sure the heat in FL didnt' help it's life out either. i fyou replaced with OEM...expect the battery to go in about the same time the first one did.
Having just taken ownership of a 12TL I'm afraid to ask: how long did it take your OEM battery to die?
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lets just say im on my 2nd oem battery and im at 23k..

had it replaced at around 11k
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Originally Posted by FirstTL12
Having just taken ownership of a 12TL I'm afraid to ask: how long did it take your OEM battery to die?

If and when you battery fails, don't replace with OEM. There are much better batteries out there. My oem battery got replaced under warranty, but I did not ask for a replacement. The dealer checked the battery and I guess it was failing. If the car is not driven much, this is not unusual with today's cars. I have replaced 3 batteries so far in my 2006 Miata. I use a battery tender now.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:29 PM
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New driver's side side mirror due to rattling
New component in the turn signal because it wouldn't go off after a turn.
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Originally Posted by FirstTL12
Having just taken ownership of a 12TL I'm afraid to ask: how long did it take your OEM battery to die?
#1-dying after 3 yrs, replaced under warranty ($0)
#2-dying after 3 yrs and 3 mos., replaced with aftermarket ($120)

#3 (currently) interstate megatron plus 24- 85 mos battery...cranks much easier and a lot faster even after my car has sat for a couple of weeks.

some OEM batteries last 5-6 yrs, some a few months...seems the avg is around 3-4 yrs.

so much for the OEM battery lasting 100 mos.

sometimes they go without warning, other times you get slow cranking, or dash light flickering, or weird electrical gremlins that come out of no where. people replaced the battery and you have a happy car again.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:06 PM
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TLtrigirl
#1-dying after 3 yrs, replaced under warranty ($0)
#2-dying after 3 yrs and 3 mos., replaced with aftermarket ($120)

#3 (currently) interstate megatron plus 24- 85 mos battery...cranks much easier and a lot faster even after my car has sat for a couple of weeks.

some OEM batteries last 5-6 yrs, some a few months...seems the avg is around 3-4 yrs.

so much for the OEM battery lasting 100 mos.

sometimes they go without warning, other times you get slow cranking, or dash light flickering, or weird electrical gremlins that come out of no where. people replaced the battery and you have a happy car again.
Well this gives me a little hope: 3 years is better than a lot of the times reported above which were significantly shorter. I wouldn't expect it to last 100 months (would love it though). Not sure if for 2012 they fixed any of the "gremlins" or battery life issues that earlier 4G versions are experiencing, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But if my battery does die early I'll have them replace it if its still under warranty, but otherwise will go with the best aftermarket solution I can find.
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Ive only owned my 2012 for 4 months now - so no issues so far....
1500 miles
Old 08-20-2012, 03:25 PM
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2012 - 16k miles. Two oil changes, replaced rear diff fluid, and flashed the radio for the bluetooth fix. No issues of any kind, just routine maintenance.
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2009 just turned 30k no issues yet, but it sounds like a battery is in my future before winter.
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2012 Advance - 8900 miles - Purchased 4/11. Both drivers and passenger side rearview mirrors were replaced. No other problems to report.
Old 08-20-2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Treblig
2012 Advance - 8900 miles - Purchased 4/11. Both drivers and passenger side rearview mirrors were replaced. No other problems to report.
Just out of curiosity, were they replaced because they were defective? Or were they damaged by external forces?
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2010 TL SH-AWD with Tech. 60,000 miles. No problems except I just am just noticing the signal when turning right does not click on (have to click it down 3 x sometimes).
Old 08-20-2012, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstTL12
Just out of curiosity, were they replaced because they were defective? Or were they damaged by external forces?
On the drivers side, the plastic housing that attaches to the door was improperly moulded (rough, bumpy leading edge). The passender side mirror was loose and caused a slight rattle when you close the door. Both replaced under warranty.
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I've owned my 2012 about a year and 3 months now, almost 25,000 miles (yikes), and no problems so far. I'm impressed with how few squeaks/rattles, considering this is a stiff suspension car with 19" low profile tires.
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2011 TL Tech/SH-AWD, 55K KM

No problems at all, other than the jackass who backed into my rear passenger door.
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2010 6MT ASPEC - 26,000 Kms. New battery under warranty already (2 winters and 2 summers). Wheel caps corroded and replaced under warranty, corroded again. Sunroof rattle, disappeared on it's own. Had the parking brake seize in the winter, car wouldn't move, then dragged the brakes for 1/2 Km until it released itself.. I wash the car daily in the winter, likely causing this issue. Slight warp on the rotors, very negligible.
Engine makes a super loud metallic snap/ping noise after the car is shut off. Will do this 3-4 times over 5-10 minutes. Annoying as hell, they 'updated the software' as a fix.. Morons.. no change. Had one instance where the car would crank, but not start. never did it again.

Otherwise the car is awesome to drive, and the minor things are.. . well . minor..
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Originally Posted by FirstTL12
Having just taken ownership of a 12TL I'm afraid to ask: how long did it take your OEM battery to die?
My car ate through batteries like it was starving. Went through several OEM batteries, including an MDX battery, before I finally gave up and got rid of it. Not sure if my car just had issues or what. :why me:

('12 Advance)
Old 08-22-2012, 04:03 PM
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add me to the list of batteries, 2011 SH with 19K and my first 100 miles into the car (just got it) they changed mine out while I was in for service getting an extra key.
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Our 2009:

1) Sun Visors not staying up against the roof (replaced)
2) Both front seat rails were moving when driving, you could feel the seat move when braking. (replaced)
3) Seat memory stopped working after the rails were replaced, going back in 2 weeks to get that fixed.
4) One blown strut
5) Now brake pedal extremely hard to press when it sits for a few hours so it's hard to start the car. (Also being checked in a few weeks)
6) Battery just died about 5 months ago. Original OEM. Now has a duralast gold, and it starts much faster.

That's it. Otherwise been a solid car. It was a loaner that we bought with 15k on it. It now has 36k.

The 2012:

No issues at all. It also feels more SOLID feeling, more sound deadning, and quieter. Much better built to me vs our 09.
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1 month old with 1200 miles. Weird issue of squeaking/screeching noise when I rotate the navigation control. It only happens when the car has been sitting in the sun and goes away after it cools down on the inside. Also it only happens if I rotate it really quickly. Weird issue though. It rubs on the inside causing the noise.
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2012 Tech

1) Sunroof refuses to close sometimes!
2) Steering wheel rattle while on the highway.
3) Tunklight didnt work ... warrenty had to replace the whole driver side fuse box.

Only 7k miles.

I miss my 2009 honda accord coupe!
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2012 SH-AWD and nothing serious to report thus far....just the sun roof rattle when it gets warm. Otherwise, I had no issues with the car whatsoever.
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2012 shawd tech, 5000 miles ... no issues so far except a seat creak that was fixed by my dealer without any problems in terms of damaging other parts of the car, although i did have to make a few trips back
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Originally Posted by weather
2012 SH-AWD and nothing serious to report thus far....just the sun roof rattle when it gets warm. Otherwise, I had no issues with the car whatsoever.
Did your dealer fix the sunroof rattle for you? I have a 2012 and it has the same issue and I'm going to bring it to the dealers attention next time I'm in.
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2010 TL SH-AWD 6MT, closing in on 40,000 miles.

I've had the following issues:
1) Rear head rests replaced due to pop out (warranty replacement)
2) Creaking coming from A, B pillars when going up hill (unresolved)
3) Sunroof when open, doesn't always close and will re-open, occurs occasionally when the temp is hot (unresolved)
4) 3rd gear pop out (after 3 years of constantly complaining to the stealership, I finally was able to get the dealership to replace the 3rd gear set); clutch assembly also replaced (warrant fix). The 3rd gear pop out is gone, but I'm hearing an odd noise coming from the clutch when starting out in 1st and R.
5) Unresolved "diesel clunking noise" when car is warmed and going up hill
6) Now I'm starting to wonder if my speakers are shot; for some reason the ELS system in the RDX loaners I had sound a lot better than my TL's. So far though, it's just an inconclusive hunch...
Old 04-20-2013, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstTL12
Well this gives me a little hope: 3 years is better than a lot of the times reported above which were significantly shorter. I wouldn't expect it to last 100 months (would love it though). Not sure if for 2012 they fixed any of the "gremlins" or battery life issues that earlier 4G versions are experiencing, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. But if my battery does die early I'll have them replace it if its still under warranty, but otherwise will go with the best aftermarket solution I can find.
Heat can shorten the battery life so depending on where you live can impact the useful life. I have no idea why batteries are considered "use until they die" items. The owners manual should have a service life like replace after 36 months. For a $120 items why do you want to push it another 12 months only to get stranded at the worst time. I replace my every 3 years now.
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2010 TL shawd 6mt approx 29500 miles. crappy mileage despite 75% highway. improved a little since I started using the cruise control

no mech probs (save for the occasional 3rd gear issue). just the front fender is horribly scarred with rock chips. Kind of afraid to go to a body shop to find out how much it will cost to fix or replace.
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Originally Posted by wreak
Did your dealer fix the sunroof rattle for you? I have a 2012 and it has the same issue and I'm going to bring it to the dealers attention next time I'm in.
I never brought mine in....It is only when it gets very warm which seldom happens where I live and because the dealer is 4h away, I just never bothered took it there for an annoyance per se. Now I spoke to them and they are aware of the TSB and they have fixed one or two with full success so its doable. I have heard that some here have had the skin of their roof damaged by the dealer while attempting to repair....For me, it was just not worth it, especially when I have less than 12 months now left with my TL.
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2010 TL-SHAWD 38,000 miles - Overall I would say its just OK. This is my 3rd TL, previous ones were 2004 w/Tech and 2008 Type-S. On the two previous ones, I did not have a single warranty repair for either.

On the 2010:

1.) around 5K miles - right turn signal malfunction. I had to hold the stalk down so the signal would flash. Dealer replaced the turn signal assembly.

2.) around 15K miles - torque converter noise when going around 25 - 30 mph, dealer reflashed the computer and the noise is mostly gone, I still hear it occasionally. On a side note, I think the reflash just reset the engine speed to keep it out of the RPM zone in which the noise occurred. This has caused a slight drop in fuel economy. I read other posts on this issue that seem to indicate the same conclusion.

3.) 20K miles - drivers door actuator stuck in below freezing temps, dealer replaced. A few times when it was really cold, I had to open the passenger door, then reach across to unlock the drivers door from the inside. I could hear the actuator in the drivers door moving, but the lock wouldnt budge.

4.) 25K and 30K miles - AWD system malfunction, dash lit up like a Christmas tree and car went into front drive only mode with no traction or stability control. 1st time it happened, the dealer replaced a fuse and it was OK for a few months. The second time, the code had cleared by the time I got to the dealer and they couldnt figure it out. Both times, I got back home, turned off the car, and it was OK the next day. Although the codes would be stored for a few days. Not sure what to make of this issue as no one else seems to have it.

So there you go, my reliability grade for this car is "just OK" in that it is unreliable compared to my older TLs, but I still think it is better than the German brands.
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Driver mirror brown staining
Front doors speakers both replaced
All on warranty
58,000 Km(36,000mi)
Complete satisfaction
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Originally Posted by Chrisdg19006
2010 TL-SHAWD 38,000 miles - Overall I would say its just OK. This is my 3rd TL, previous ones were 2004 w/Tech and 2008 Type-S. On the two previous ones, I did not have a single warranty repair for either.

On the 2010:

1.) around 5K miles - right turn signal malfunction. I had to hold the stalk down so the signal would flash. Dealer replaced the turn signal assembly.

2.) around 15K miles - torque converter noise when going around 25 - 30 mph, dealer reflashed the computer and the noise is mostly gone, I still hear it occasionally. On a side note, I think the reflash just reset the engine speed to keep it out of the RPM zone in which the noise occurred. This has caused a slight drop in fuel economy. I read other posts on this issue that seem to indicate the same conclusion.

3.) 20K miles - drivers door actuator stuck in below freezing temps, dealer replaced. A few times when it was really cold, I had to open the passenger door, then reach across to unlock the drivers door from the inside. I could hear the actuator in the drivers door moving, but the lock wouldnt budge.

4.) 25K and 30K miles - AWD system malfunction, dash lit up like a Christmas tree and car went into front drive only mode with no traction or stability control. 1st time it happened, the dealer replaced a fuse and it was OK for a few months. The second time, the code had cleared by the time I got to the dealer and they couldnt figure it out. Both times, I got back home, turned off the car, and it was OK the next day. Although the codes would be stored for a few days. Not sure what to make of this issue as no one else seems to have it.

So there you go, my reliability grade for this car is "just OK" in that it is unreliable compared to my older TLs, but I still think it is better than the German brands.
I had the same problem as #4. In fact the power steering did not work intially. The problem was the battery was low and needed replacement. I thought it was something way worse.
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