CamPhil

I just got off the phone with a V-LEDS rep and they said that it provides enough light output to bring back high beam functionality. I currently have 28 LED bulb in my high beam/DRL and knew going in that it was for esthetics only. It would be nice to get high beams back because I drive through some rural areas between home and work. Anybody try these yet?

http://www.vleds.com/bulb/9000-serie...b3-1-pair.html

potmilkz

it may seem like it looks brighter in the pics.. but i can bet money that i will not even come close to becoming as bright as halogens.. you can try it first and let us know tho.

Edward'TLS

The only way to test auto headlight output is by comparing the lumens.

As always, if LED headlight vendors won't release the lumen #'s, most likely because their LED bulbs can never be as bright as the good old halogen ones.

CamPhil

I went ahead and ordered these lights and will be the guinea pig. The specs on their site say it outputs 1200 lumen per bulb and the sales rep assured me that light was adequate to run in low-beam halogen housing. Since I will have these in my high-beam housing I'm hoping they will do the job when needed. If not, I'm out 15% restocking fee for returns. I'll post comparison pictures early next week when the bulbs arrive.

Zelaya

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Subscribed and keep us posted.

deuce415

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I'm interested in the outcome as well, thanks Camphil for being the guineau pig. I noticed these bulbs on the VLED site the other day, but at $100 a set, these are above what I'd comfortably pay. Besides, I waited a while to get the 6 CREE bulb from them and am pretty satisfied with the color and output.

Came across this article that talks about lumens. http://reviews.ebay.com/quot-Xenon-q...:-1:LISTINGS:6


If these bulbs are 1200 lumens, then they would be brighter than standard 9006/9005 halogens which fall between 1000-1100 lumens according to the site.

Looking forward to the results.

CamPhil

Are these the ones you have?

http://www.vleds.com/5k-white-6-led-...h7-1-pair.html

I was considering the updated versions of those (10 led). Do you have output pictures at night? I assume you have them in your DRL/High-Beam.

deuce415

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Yeah, those are the ones that I have. Just noticed today the new 10 LED ones that you are talking about. The 6 LED ones produce 725 lumens according to their site, and the 10 LED ones produce 850 lumens. And both seem to be the same $59.99 price. I would go with the 10 LED version for $59.99.

I only have this pic taken around sunset, in the shadows without high beam on, just DRL. I can try taking some additional pictures this weekend at night if that will help.

CamPhil

Yeah, if you don't mind, output pictures at night (with high-beam engaged) would be great.

CamPhil

Am I happy with the output...absolutely! Was it worth the money? They bring back high beam but not sure how much and I'll need to do more comparisons between standard halogen bulbs. However they are A LOT brighter compared to the 28 led bulbs I had installed previously. I tried to test them last night, but it was snowing and obviously high beams in those conditions prove useless. I'll try to do some more test runs later tonight or tomorrow once the snow lets up.

Here are some sample pictures and note that I turned the exposure on my camera phone down to -2. You can also notice a slight blue tinge outline. It gives a nice effect to it from different angles. Enjoy!





DRL on Wall


High Beam (full power) - on Wall



Close up - On Wall


Front - Colors Match Nicely


Low Beams on Wall


Low and High Beams on Wall

Bruce_Wayne

Very interesting camphil. Thanks for being the "guinea pig" on these for the rest of us.

What temp are your lowbeams? Stock? 6000k?

Also, could you post a few shots of just the DRLs on from the front of the car? I want to see what they look like in the housing. Please post shots of the DRLs in the daytime and nighttime please and thanks.

Judging by the lowbeam w highbeam pic (last one)... it doesn't look like it would throw as much light out as a hologen bulb. But anything over regular LED bulbs is definitely an improvement... hopefully a functional improvement.

potmilkz

everyone should be aware that camphil removed his high beam reflector front shield piece.. if this bulb is too long it may not fit for headlights that still have that piece on..

Zelaya

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That's a good point Potmilkz. I'd not mind paying $59.99 if really gives the same Lumen output as factory bulb.

CamPhil

Zelaya - Just so you're not confused, these bulbs were $99.99. The $59.99 bulbs were the ones that deuce415 put in his car. Wanted to make sure you had the right info.

I'll do a comparison shot of the standard halogens next to this bulb so everybody can get a better sense and if they will fit with the shield still in place.

Zelaya

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^^ thank you for the update, can you post a link from where you purchased your bulbs from.

CamPhil

http://www.vleds.com/bulb/9000-serie...b3-1-pair.html

CamPhil

Low beams are stock bulbs but I did have the projectors updated to TSX-R lens with spacers which helps remove the yellow tinge in light output which is why it looks "whiter".

To the naked eye, It seems like they output close to stock. At the very lease it provides some functionality back to my high beams. I don't have access to a light meter so can't give you an exact number on the lumen.

TeamAcura

CamPhil, are these bulbs plug N play?

CamPhil

Yes they are, but keep in mind that you'll also need resisters to trick the car so you don't get error message about your DRL. I've never had any issues with the ones from ijdmtoy (R2 option).

http://store.ijdmtoy.com/LED-Daytime...decoder-01.htm

CamPhil

Here is a side by side comparison. They are the same length as OEM halogens.

Hogan9166

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I had the same discoloration issue with my OEM halogens. Is that caused by low voltage running through them all the time? I've never had that happen to any other car I've had.

potmilkz

this whole time i thought it was double sided led...

CamPhil

I wish it were 2 sided as well. The current design does not make the most of the reflector housing. V-LEDS rep told me they were working on an updated version (at least 6 months out) but didn't give me specifics on the design. Perhaps the next set will have LEDs on 2 sides.

TeamAcura

Thanks CamPhil, were you able to see how far and bright the high beam was at night? Also, can you take pic of the front of your car with the DRL and high beam on?

Zelaya

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JLC Lightning also testing one at the moment which is 1500 lumens and their prices is about the same.

CamPhil

Do you have a link?

Zelaya

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Unfortunately no, the guy at JLC lightning texted me the photos samples yesterday which are been tested on his 2gen RL and 4th gen TL. They look very bright.

potmilkz

care to upload those photos?

CamPhil

In for pictures of the samples too. I have a window to return my current setup and if the ones from JLC are brighter I wouldn't mind being the first to try.

Day shots below. I did my best to adjust exposure so you get a better sense of what I see in person. I'll try to get night shots tonight.

DRL - Closeup:


DRL - Full Frame:


Low/High Beam - Closeup:


Low/High Beam - Full Frame:

KB1Spec

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I just got a set but different set up.

CamPhil

oh nice...how do you have it set up? Pictures?

KB1Spec

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I have pics but waiting for permission from my friend to see if I can post it here or not. All I can say is it is 10X brighter than my previous CREE. It works with in conjunction with the high beam when my headlamp is on. It also have a built in module for the decoder.

Zelaya

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No worries Raymond, just got permission from JCL lightning to post them.... here's the photos. They don't have a exact date to be available but they think by mid April.

CamPhil

Am I looking at the right ones here? http://www.jlclightings.com/9005-24W...ma-p/dp24w.htm

I wonder how much more light they throw VS the ones I have from V-LEDS.

Zelaya

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Good search there Camphil, maybe Raymond can shine here since he has them on his TL.

KB1Spec

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Thanks Ds for posting the pic

KB1Spec

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Thanks D!

KB1Spec

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The second pic shows the comparison of the LED. Left is the new set and right is the regular CREE from the original

Zelaya

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Raymond did you remove the high beam reflector?

potmilkz

holy shit that heat diffuser adapter in the back is massive.. but yea.. i rather go with jlc then v-leds..