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Old 07-06-2019, 03:02 PM
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Mine finally goes in this Thursday, they said 3-4 days. Of course they are 150 miles away. I hope they have a cool loaner car for me. RLX sport hybrid? With my luck it will probably be an ILX
You will probably end up with the same base model TLX they gave me... I'm not sure why someone would spend the money to buy one of these. If the dealer wanted someone to upgrade and buy a new Acura, you would think they would take the opportunity to put you in a car that is at a minimum comparable to the car you are driving but even more car if they really wanted your business. I guess they don't want me to upgrade. My wife feels our car is nicer and drives better than this loaner even with 100K miles...
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Okay so I got my work done, what do you guys think of doing one of those routine total engine cleaning...You know where the put stuff in the intake, and all that smoke suff happens...not sure what its called.

As to keep carbon from even thinking of building up again? Also What do you guys think about adding Seafoam to crank case ...my oil is only at 70% all this talk about new parts sheering is making me scared.

Since im like 1000 miles ftare a rebuild, what are the DO's and donts....Anyone feel free to chime in...




HOw is everyone elses car driving since your rebuild. Mine drives like a different car altogether. I just love driving it.
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It may have benefits to old cars, but in my opinion it is unnecessary snake oil in a modern car. The "explaination" acura provided us, although plausible, is unlikely to be completely accurate. I would imagine that the real explaination is related to cylinder wall finish, ring gap and material and finished piston and bore diameters.
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Hey everyone, so I started my oil consumption around 117k on my 11 TL 5AT. After the 1st 1k miles I burned and 1/8th of a quart so they topped it off. 2nd 1k miles I burned 1/2 quart. So at 2k miles I burned 6/8 of a quart and they told me it was normal and I was displeased because in the past I know my car has burned alot of oil in between changes and I've had to top off the oil myself. So I took it upon myself to run 1/4in medical tubing (about 12ft) into the dipstick and siphon out approximately 1 1/2 qts. Brought it to Acura immediately and they failed me and started the rebuild process. They gave me a 2019 RDX SH-AWD with Tech pack. It's nice but I'm excited to get my TL back and let you all know if it was worth the 2 hrs it took me to get the oil out of the dipstick. I will post some pics I took when I get the chance.
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Hey everyone, so I started my oil consumption around 117k on my 11 TL 5AT. After the 1st 1k miles I burned and 1/8th of a quart so they topped it off. 2nd 1k miles I burned 1/2 quart. So at 2k miles I burned 6/8 of a quart and they told me it was normal and I was displeased because in the past I know my car has burned alot of oil in between changes and I've had to top off the oil myself. So I took it upon myself to run 1/4in medical tubing (about 12ft) into the dipstick and siphon out approximately 1 1/2 qts. Brought it to Acura immediately and they failed me and started the rebuild process. They gave me a 2019 RDX SH-AWD with Tech pack. It's nice but I'm excited to get my TL back and let you all know if it was worth the 2 hrs it took me to get the oil out of the dipstick. I will post some pics I took when I get the chance.
I dont know why they make it so darn difficult. You will be pleased with your results. Trust me. and congrats on your rebuild.
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:44 AM
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I'm jealous that they got you in immediately, I've been waiting nearly 3 months to have my '12 Elite/Advance done after they told me it would be 1-2 months at the most. I feel like I'm driving a ticking (quite literally) time bomb. I've had to top it up a bunch of times since they gave me the green light on the rebuild, and I'll probably have to do it again within the week and throw a new oil filter on. I am not pleased with how long I have been waiting.

To add insult to injury, I checked the oil last night and the hood struts failed to support the hood. A week ago they were fine. I wonder if the heat out there has anything to do with that.
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I'm jealous that they got you in immediately, I've been waiting nearly 3 months to have my '12 Elite/Advance done after they told me it would be 1-2 months at the most. I feel like I'm driving a ticking (quite literally) time bomb. I've had to top it up a bunch of times since they gave me the green light on the rebuild, and I'll probably have to do it again within the week and throw a new oil filter on. I am not pleased with how long I have been waiting.

To add insult to injury, I checked the oil last night and the hood struts failed to support the hood. A week ago they were fine. I wonder if the heat out there has anything to do with that.
Hang in there. The wait all depends on how busy that dealership is and how that manage warranty repairs. Most dealers put warranty repair AFTER out of pocket customers. However, some see every customer as equal and take whatever money they can get, those get you in immediately.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:09 AM
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Hang in there. The wait all depends on how busy that dealership is and how that manage warranty repairs. Most dealers put warranty repair AFTER out of pocket customers. However, some see every customer as equal and take whatever money they can get, those get you in immediately.
That's what I figured. I wish they'd hurry up though, I'm going to have them do the timing belt and water pump job while they have it all pulled apart, and I'm 15,000km over that 160,000km mark for that job due to the high mileage I put on the car each week.
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I'm also waiting for Acura to call me to schedule a repair. Its been 2 months already. Service advisor said that some parts are hard to get. No time estimate was given as well.
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I've babied it for 1000 km now and did an oil change. No more babying going forward I'm just going to enjoy it. It feels great after the rebuild. Running really strong, feeling fast. I'm really happy with the results so far. No oil burnt in that 1000 km, exhaust tips used to turn black very quickly, I cleaned them after the rebuild and they're still nice and Shiney! Of course the true test will be going forward. Oh I did add some coolant and the level is staying the same.... That's a relief. P.s. if your hood struts don't hold the hood up anymore go to eBay and you can get some for $30 and they are very easy to replace. The mechanic at the dealership joked to me that my car is one of the only 4g he's seen with hood struts that hold the hood up still. I laughed and told him I had replaced them.
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Took my 13 AWD TL today to start the testing, they said they don't see any leaks and didn't need to top off the oil so hoping that's a good thing. Told to come back in 1,000 miles...
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 4th_GenTLe0260 View Post
Hey everyone, so I started my oil consumption around 117k on my 11 TL 5AT. After the 1st 1k miles I burned and 1/8th of a quart so they topped it off. 2nd 1k miles I burned 1/2 quart. So at 2k miles I burned 6/8 of a quart and they told me it was normal and I was displeased because in the past I know my car has burned alot of oil in between changes and I've had to top off the oil myself. So I took it upon myself to run 1/4in medical tubing (about 12ft) into the dipstick and siphon out approximately 1 1/2 qts. Brought it to Acura immediately and they failed me and started the rebuild process. They gave me a 2019 RDX SH-AWD with Tech pack. It's nice but I'm excited to get my TL back and let you all know if it was worth the 2 hrs it took me to get the oil out of the dipstick. I will post some pics I took when I get the chance.
Could you give some more detail on the tubing you used and how it worked? I am thinking of going this route. Did they mark your oil pan drain bolt then?

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Car is at the dealership since they approved the piston rings. They charged my 2 hours, $270 to install the timing belt, water pump,and tensioner.
Hopefully they don't run into any trouble since it's been there for almost 2 weeks. Got a 19 TLX advanced with 4k miles on it
Was burning 1 qt every 785 miles.
2010 6 speed 146k miles.
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Car is at the dealership since they approved the piston rings. They charged my 2 hours, $270 to install the timing belt, water pump,and tensioner.
$270 for the labor to do the timing belt and water pump job? How much did they charge you for the parts?
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It's been 1,500 miles since my rebuild. I checked the oil after 700 miles and it was still full (Before the rebuild it would be down 3/4 quart). I checked it at 1,500 and discovered it was down almost a half quart. I have not found any leaks.

Has anyone else noticed that their TL is still consuming oil after the rebuild.
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It's been 1,500 miles since my rebuild. I checked the oil after 700 miles and it was still full (Before the rebuild it would be down 3/4 quart). I checked it at 1,500 and discovered it was down almost a half quart. I have not found any leaks.

Has anyone else noticed that their TL is still consuming oil after the rebuild.
Did u have the oil pump seal replaced? It's one of the seals/gaskets that isnt covered under the warranty rebuild. Cost me an extra 245 bucks.
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Did u have the oil pump seal replaced? It's one of the seals/gaskets that isnt covered under the warranty rebuild. Cost me an extra 245 bucks.
According to this image (courtesy of dopeboy1):



...the last part on that page is the oil pump seal, which is part of this rebuild. Which, by the way, is about a $7 part. Then again, that document is from Honda Canada, so perhaps it is different in the USA.

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Yes, the oil pump seal was replaced.
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$270 for the labor to do the timing belt and water pump job? How much did they charge you for the parts?
I bought the parts from the same dealership and gave it to them to install since I get a discount on the part.
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I bought the parts from the same dealership and gave it to them to install since I get a discount on the part.
Got it, looks like they charged a couple of hours labor for it then.
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Got my oil changed for $95 CAD yesterday and have been driving in sport mode since leaving the dealership. It is fun to get decent quick response that wasn't felt in the D mode. Wish me luck during next 1000km. Mine is a slow burner, but I'd rather fail now and not have to deal with topping up issue while I own the car for a few more years.
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Picked up my 2010 SH-AWD this morning after having the repair done. They replaced both camshafts and 2 follower/rockers at no charge to me. Mine had started ticking during the oil consumption test and i relayed that to them at the end of the test. They said both cams were worn, but that they did not think it was related to the oil consumption problem. I believe if you starve a rotating friction surface of oil you have problems. Motor is quiet now. I just read the complete receipt after driving it back home ~150 miles that they noted that the rear main seal and oil pump seal were leaking but were not addressed at this time. I have never notice any oil anywhere under the car or on the motor. I will get it on the lift and take a look.
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Got it, looks like they charged a couple of hours labor for it then.
2 hours.
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Picked up the TL after replacement of both valve cover gaskets ($0). Time will tell if more oil leaks develop.

Regarding spark plugs, ordered them on Amazon, Champion Platium ($36), install took about an hour. Old plugs removed had 110k miles and looked perfect. Pretty much the only reason I decided to have the pistons replaced is because these old plugs looked so good. The internals on this engine are strong.

Engine runs fine now, no knocking or valve lash. Hope you all have the pistons replaced without the follow-up oil leaks I had. Good luck.
Update: About 2500 miles after the piston job now, does seems to have fixed the oil consumption issue. The 3.7L is running well :-)
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