winstrolvtec

Ya, most would agree but it's not too bad when you compare it to something like a 3 series. Starting out at $35k for a base 328i to $45k base 335 AWD which is a 30% increase and that is with nothing added. A well equipped 335ix instead, is about $18k more which is almost a 50% increase.

You could probably negotiate a great deal for 2 base 328i's on the lot for almost the same cost as a loaded 335ix, which you would likely have to order.

MD-DRIVER

Mosty wealthy people do, but it should never be forced. As long as wealthy people are not over taxed, most of them very willingly give to charity.

If you want to force wealthy people to hand over their wealth, you will just have less wealthy people since you removed the incentive to become wealthy

Moneyman2011

We are way off topic now, but what do you think of the following statement? Kind of makes you think for a moment.

"You don’t like the current state of affairs in our political system? How about the following set of ideas about how we could run our country?

We should buy an island, come up with an applicable name, request international recognition, create our own country with our own unique currency that is backed by gold, encourage people to serve in the armed forces in order to defend this nation, provide minimal government assistance to its citizens, and depend solely on Capitalism and philanthropy as the economic engine to get things done. Instead of government roads, we can have toll roads. Instead of government entitlements people would be enticed to create their own personal pension by means of tax deductions for contributions made into long term savings plans which are sheltered from tax permanently, as well as the elimination of death taxes. The concept is simply this: The more you do things to be self sufficient, the less tax you pay, which includes energy consumption, waste disposal, food production, purchasing health insurance, providing for higher education, etc... Also if you want to own a business, you get significant tax credits to reward you for maintaining or creating employment so as to provide the least amount of resistance to creating profits which would NOT be taxed. Instead of penalizing those who are successful, I would rather reward entrepreneurial spirit and Capitalism. Those that are lazy get hammered in taxes. Thus you would end up with highly educated, highly motivated, intelligent people who create and run businesses. If the role of government is simply to provide order and general rules so that there is fair trade, and security both for local and national defense, then the cost drag would be minimal. Also public officials would not be paid as it would be a volunteer position. The government would provide cash payments to assist them with their monthly bills prior to serving in office, but there would be no pension, no long term perks, term limits, and this would not be a "for profit arrangement". They would be required to be present for every vote, read every bill and provide a report on their interpretation of the bills that would be posted online for voters to see that they are making conscious decisions, and if they did not uphold their duties, they would be fired before the end of the term. Every political official would have business experience as an entrepreneur as well as at least basic Graduate School level educations where they had been exposed to economics at least an academic level. No lobbyists would be permitted. Monopolies would not be allowed to have predatory pricing, although natural monopolies for the purposes of efficiency would be permitted. There would be a free market to trade goods and services with limited regulations only based upon safety and fairness. Any attempt to violate stated rules and laws would be responded too with extreme harshness (immediate deportation of you and your family, loss of all property and assets, permanent loss of citizenship). No jails needed except for those the harm others with physical violence (those would be jailed for life without parole). Everyone would be free to practice any religion they chose, and through community efforts, educate each other on the finer points of their religion so that there would be a mutual respect for personal choice in that regard. "

MD-DRIVER

Let me know when I can buy property

Mr Marco

You are so wrapped up in your bubble that you fail to see that currency is the problem. Get rid of money as we know it and go to a resourced based economy. Imagine a world without war, poverty, hunger, debt, environmental degradation and unnecessary human suffering. These issues are not only avoidable, but totally unacceptable in the first place.

The world's resources are the common heritage of all people, all nations. We need to eliminate the artificial boundaries that currently separate people. Replace the money-based economies. We could gradually outgrow corporate entities and governments. Share and apply new technologies for the benefit of all nations with clean renewable resources. Manufacture the highest quality products for the benefit of the world’s people. Encourage the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavors. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry, and prejudice through education. Eliminate elitism, technical or otherwise. Arrive at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions. Provide not only the necessities of life, but also offer challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity. And finally, prepare people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead. That, Moneyman, is the kind of world I want to live in.

Now that’s a HiJack!

Moneyman2011

Great ideas, and I am not wrapped up in a bubble. What makes this country great is we can voice our opinions without the fear of persecution and imprisionment even if we disagree. Serve, volley and smash! The court is yours.

Ken1997TL

Heh, I think you need to join a commune in the 19th century. Those always turned out well.

docboy

Since we're getting well off topic here, yet we remain civilized while engaged in daily relevant discourse, I might as well join in:

MD-DRIVER, excellent quote and nice simple example of how socialism FAILS. To HELL with Obama and his socialistic ideas; it promotes laziness, rewards the poor, and punishes the hard working.

Back on topic....

Moneyman2011

No my friend. This is getting good now! It is boring to talk about tires and oil changes. As we ponder the massive stupidity going on in Washington DC and the fact that our monthly Federal Deficit is almost as large as what it will take to rebuild Japan boggles the mind. These are the same idiots that are contemplating new legislative stupidity tonight that will ultimately cost us more freedoms and more dollars out of our grandchildren’s pockets. Here is a fact. Our 2010 Federal Budget was $3.8 Trillion. Our tax revenues were $2.2 Trillion. Our Social Security payments were $2.2 Trillion. What is missing? Oh the $1.6 Trillion that the Chinese, Indian, and Russian governments are funding by buying our treasuries. With the brilliance of Mr. Bernanke and Timmy running around with the massive double standard they are promoting all over the world that we are NOT devaluing our currency to artificially make our exports cheaper and create an environment where the global stock markets are duped into thinking that we are actually recovering from the Abyss that the dumbasses in Congress created in the early 2,000’s. Put that in your Congressional pipe and smoke that! Anyone up for a return serve? The court is open. I yield my remaining time.

MD-DRIVER

So do I now need to haul around a sack of coal to trade for a burger when I go to McDonald's

compewterbleu

....okay, I think I'll wait an see what the 2015 Acura TL has to offer.

dethred

You are a fool if you go from one TL to another TL by selling your current car in an "upside down" situation. You have a terrible price negotiated for the new car and a terrible price for the trade in. They obviously take you for a fool, or you went in there all wide-eyed and excited to look for a new car, which basically screams "rip me off".

Not to be a total dick, but I'd work on your credit score before buying a used Honda Civic, much less a $40,000 luxury car. Once you have that squared away, don't show your face at any dealership until you look like you're 40 years old, or you've negotiated the price before letting them know you're only 28 years old.

P1zzaman

iTrader: (1)

Pay it off! When I bought my 07 new i put down $27,000 cash. Rest paid off in 2 years. I would just pay it off man, you are throwing money down the drain with interest.