Texas325

I would include the MDX, ZDX and any other vehicles that uses this engine. There's a MDX thread that popped up regarding the same issue.

the_razor

i am from Canada so i am guessing i can't be part of it. Mine burns approx 0.5 to max 1 L every 6,000 KM.

amill

This. A friend of mine's wife has a 2011 or 2010 A4 and had the entire short block replaced under warranty.

=SHAWD=

I called my local Acura dealer today and have my consumption test set to start next week. Currently 60% oil life and thus far after my oil change today was the 2nd top off I have needed.

randath

Interestingly enough I received a notice from Acura today informing me that my 2010 TSX is now under a warranty extension for "Sticking Piston Rings Resulting In High Engine Oil Consumption". They are extending the warranty on the pistons and rings for 8 years or 125,000 miles. I know a Japan-built TSX isn't necessarily the same as an Ohio-built TL but hey at least they know some of their models suck oil. Hopefully the 2012 TL isn't talking to the TSX out there in the garage. Knock on wood but so far no oil loss in the TL.

Reptil3

I'm in Canada as well so I guess I can't benefit but would definitely sign if I could.
Topped up approx ~2.5L / Quarts at 7100kms of driving. Got an auto 2009 TL (Sh-awd) with 94k kms in March. Not happy about this. Called the dealer and was told 1L per 1000kms was acceptable.

We'll start an oil consumption test with them since my oil change interval is coming up.

TLSH-AWD

Nothing out of pocket(unless you count the price of gas for driving)

Just dropped the car off last night, ETA is saturday or monday. roughly 3 to 4 days for the job

ray01

for those that are going ahead with this. make sure you have all your oil change receipts whether it was delear or private shop. also make sure you do an oil consumption test at the delear and that they record the amount of oil burnt or needed to be topped up on the bill.

acurakid_slc

I'm all for it!! I have already had 1 engine replaced at 33k and on my second consumption test for the second engine.

shahram72

Is this for the V6 with VCM (variable cylinder management)? Wow, my Honda advised against buying any Honda with this system. What is happening at Honda? This is what happens when bean counters run the company.

Red5

Folks. I just signed up at this law firm who said I have the criteria for this class action lawsuit. I have a 2010 TL 6MT, and have been arguing with Acura for 4 years and 60,000 miles about this issue. I have done 3 oil consumption tests with Acura of North America, and two different dealers. During the final test I lost close to 3 quarts between 1,000 miles.

Acura Engine Oil Consumption ? Class Action Investigation - Chimicles & Tikellis LLP

JM2010 SH-AWD

If you're losing 3 quarts/1000 miles, I'm at a loss as to why your dealer/Acura won't help you out. That's 300% of the amount Acura says is normal consumption. I assume you've had all your oil changes per mfr's spec. Any decent dealer should go to bat for you on this. After all, they'll get paid for the work.

acurakid_slc

Thank you!! I'm on my second engine 4th oil test and 2 engine noises Acura can not diagnose yet confirm there is a problem and are unwilling to do anything.

YeuEmMaiMai

you all should be taking your complaints to the EPA and your local reps for the Federal Government. This issue is affecting ALL auto makers. EPA regulations are the root cause for these types of issues.

rosefresh99

Please sign me in.

PICA

In In In

Red5

Why is the EPA to blame? Come on now! Seems like a typical response to blame the government for companies making substandard products. True, more car manufacturers are experiencing this problem, but that is because of poor manufacturing. I would expect this issue from a Chrysler, not Honda/Acura. Very disappointing, and won't be buying another Honda/Acura ever again since they won't step up and admit there is a problem.

YeuEmMaiMai

wow you really thought that out before you typed it, didn't you?

EPA forcing higher MPG on manufacturers and as a result they are doing everything they can to meet those forced mandates even at the expense of your engine eating oil

research is your friend, might want to go do some and then when you are done, you will see why my position is what it is.

Red5

No thought required, after fighting with Acura of NA and two different dealerships for the past 3 1/2 years.

Subpar parts like the seals and gaskets cause engine oil to burn. Common knowledge. You remind me of one of the Acura service reps I dealt with claiming "Acura allows for 1 quart of oil to be used every 1,000 miles" Then when I prove I lose more than a quart in 1,000 miles, "You know Audi allows for 1 quart of oil to be burned every 600 miles." I had to remind he works at Acura, and Acura pays his salary, not Audi.

Point of my statement above is that car manufacturers need to step up to the poor quality parts or workmanship, and stop blaming other factors. Every car manufacturer engine out there would be burning oil if it was for the EPA and their higher mileage standards.

cobra611

My '09 was exhibiting the same issue, burning oil in between changes. Luckily, I'm friends with the service manager at my local Acura dealer, and he got them to basically get me a new block. He only charged me $250.

Edit...
Purchased my car in Nov. '11 with 57k miles on it. Excellent condition, inside and out. My odometer just passed 128k miles. If I had to guess, I would say I starting noticing this problem just around 100k miles. I do drive it pretty hard on my commutes to and from work.

YeuEmMaiMai

you totally MISSED what I said, go back and re-read what I said and then after contemplating and researching what the EPA is up to, you will understand why I said what I did. Your reply indicates that you have not done so. This issue that ALL, and I repeat ALL automakers are dealing with are directly related to the EPA and their ridiculous timeframe for these mandates that are forcing these MPG improvements. People whom own some Porches for example are facing 1 quart of oil consumption for every 600 miles or so. 17% of Subaru Forrester owners state excessive oil consumption. Internet is FULL of people from all makes complaining about this.
Toyota, GM, Subaru, Porsche, etc


http://www.bing.com/search?q=excessi...ox&FORM=IENTSR

This is also the biggest reason you cannot find sticks anymore in a lot of cars that used to offer them... tightening emissions standards = all cars are going to be automatics in one form or another with a large push towards CVT... oops already here....

ABDomega

What is the timing of most people's oil consumption issue?

I've noticed that the oil consumption is greater later in the OCI. For example, the first 1000 miles (the 1000 miles the dealership is interested in reviewing for a consumption test) I may have zero to 1/4 quart consumed. The second 1000 maybe I'll see another 1/4 quart or a 1/2 quart, I then top off. The third 1000, I'll have 3/4 consumed. By 4000 miles into the OCI I'm around 1 quart per 1000 miles.

Does anyone have similar experience? Is this more likely due to the base oil being sheared despite fresh oil mixed in? Would any of this fail a consumption test since it all happens later in the OCI?

JM2010 SH-AWD

I think that's pretty consistent with what others are seeing. Mine doesn't use much, maybe about 3/4-a quart in 4-5000 miles, but most of that occurs after about 2500 miles on an oil change. Virtually no use, like you, for the first 1-2000 miles.

Edward'TLS

Yes, same with my car. The oil consumption seems to speed up as mileage accumulates after every oil change.

As for base oil being sheared, this is a non issue for full synthetic oil.

Synthetic oil won't break down or shear in just 5000 miles.

But still, full synthetic oil also disappears at a rather similar pattern just like conventional oil.

vaneaton

I'm in.

aIRpeACE

iTrader: (2)

it's an American way. Suing everybody

Cesar1016

Yes, we are experiencing the same issue and are getting the run around from our dealership. I would be willing to work on this.
How do we move forward?

Richard Collette

3QTs in just shy of 3k miles. 77,600 miles on 2010 TL SH-AWD MT.
Signed up for class action here.
https://chimicles.com/acura-engine-o...ction-lawsuit/

Also, a class action was already resolved for Honda vehicles of the same year which offers a pretty good precedent.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-burning-claim

mossman77

Before I bought my 2011 TL-SHAWD two months ago, I visited the NHTSA.gov website to check for recalls, complaints, and investigations. I was pleasantly surprised to find there were only 5 complaints, all of which are related to the air bag recall. Why is there not one complaint about oil consumption if this problem is so widespread?

Burkie

I'll join. But my 2011 TL SH-AWD has about 144,00 miles on it. Still purs like a kitten but burns about 4-5 quarts of oil between oil change per the car's on-board system.

showandprove01

2010 TL Sh-Awd 6 speed. The dealer actually replaced the short block last year after a 1000 mile oil consumption test showed high oil use. So far with about 10k miles on the new engine it seems ok. The car has another 4 months under warranty so lets see. But yes, I too woukd be willling to join a class action.

oshiha

Wait what? TL's only hold about that much in the engine. If you're referring to the OIL % on the system, thats refers to oil life %.

Burkie

yes. That's what I mean

rswee

So what happened here? Did you manage to take action against Acura? My TL is burning excessive oil at 100K miles, but Acura does not seem interested.

rlx015

Here is what I was able to find by searching after friend of mine told me about this issue:

https://chimicles.com/acura-engine-o...ction-lawsuit/

It looks like class action started, but judging by the dates on posts within this thread, I am not sure if the issue is that wide spread... I might be wrong though

Good luck guys

Aurelia Estrada

absolutely in! Have 2010 tl, in excellent condition and still have excessive oil consumption and vibration on acceleration, tho they tell me nothing is wrong!! Soooo, where do we begin n when????

Thermoguy

go to:

www.acuraoilconsumptionsettlement.com

if you have paid for repairs you might get some or all of your money back if they win. Not sure if others will see any benefit, but we might get something.