pickler

Did you know this? I just found out. I wish I had the money to own one though lol.

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/quality.htm

dtrayers

4000 lbs and longer than my Honda Pilot is compact?

types1fan

Ha, the ugly duckling strikes again. It may be compact in price and size? it's a solid car and well built.

pickler

I drove a 2011 TL once as a loaner and I must say it 'felt' like i was driving a compact. It did not feel as big or as heavy as the numbers suggest.

TeamAcura

The 4G will never get the respect it deserves from the general public simply because of its looks. Sad..SMH

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

Sucks for Honda/Acura and those would be customers. I care because I'm a fan of Honda/Acura products and want to see them do well and continue to make other vehicles I can enjoy, but at the same time I don't. I know I have an awesome vehicle which I like the interior and exterior of. If it's too risky for the masses it only makes my car more unique in a positive way. Lastly the low sales might push Acura to create a better 5G in hopes of a knockout.

TeamAcura

It's too bad Acura pushed the design limits on the 4G because it really is an all around great car. As evident in the current line up, they are too scared and went conservative instead. Now people see them bland as compared to their past models. Needless to say, it is hard to strike a balance. I find their cars to have a simplistic look and I can appreciate that.

Part of the reason I bought the 4G is because I rarely see many (let alone the MMC) out there in my neck of the woods and in a way that is a good thing. I kinda prefer it that way too. I love the stares and looks I get when I drive her around town knowing I'm just one of a few who has a "slightly" modded 4G.

Glashub

Basically for me -- if they could integrate the beak like they did on the NSX I saw at the LA Auto show and get rid of the silver band on the truck -- they'll have done the looks of the car a great favor. Just my .02. They got everything else in order -- they just need to figure how to make the car more attractive to a greater number of people. I like the looks of the 4G except for the above.

Don't go as bland as the RLX. Saw my 1st one yesterday -- a blue haired lady driving it. It looks so staid and conservative.

pickler

Maybe in us the sales are weak...in canada they are everywhere. More TLs than Audi A4 or Infinity g37 on streets...at least where I live. They are very expensive though. I priced one out the other day it would cost me 57000 CAD to get a shawd tech. So price is my only issue, I can get a 335i at same price :\ I think the design is fine.

Edward'TLS

Very unfortunate, the low sales of the 2G RL didn't generate big enough a push for Acura to create a better ENOUGH RLX in hopes of a knockout.

In fact, the monthly sales figure for the RLX only accounts for 1/2 of that for the failed 2G RL.

Go figures.

vivmike

I love the TL's looks once it's modded.

It looks horrible stock.

vivmike

So.

ngravatt

i got my second TL because the first one had was an 02, that i bought in 2005. Drove up to 180k miles and had no issues except i replace the blower motor fan ($100). i did go do my not cheap mileage check ins at the dealership so that everything was in good shape. Only thing it didnt survive was when i got t boned and the car was totaled.

Does a BMW last that long? Can you go 11 years and and replace only one part (besides the regular scheduled maintenance). Do repair shops no how to work on the BMW? An acura is a nice Honda, and there are millions of Hondas and Acuras out there.

Just another thing to consider besides the price.

g37guy01

Yes, I know people who have driven them past 200k without issue. You got lucky your car didn't leave your stranded. High mileage water pumps and alternators go with impunity on every model. In my area, lots of repair shops specialize in only the premium segment.