cbusAcuracls

Kind of hit a nerve there..but tired of people dissing the CL's. I have a 07 tsx and I still like driving my 01 CL-S better. I don't care what people say...for the money and what you get the 2g CL/TL's are excellent cars. Plus they can still keep up w/ 80% of the cars on the road..Not too shaby for a 7-8 year old car.

sorry guys back to the ugly TL.

HBaJ

Amazingly, it takes Acura 3.7 litres to push out 305hp

I really hope your not being sarcastic.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Oh, I am not concerned about the handling. My family had a 2005 RL so I am quite familiar with what SH-AWD is capable of doing to the handling of a large sedan.

However, even now I find myself needing to be exceedingly careful in the tight confines of my parking garage and work and through the narrow entry and exit ramps (poor design, certainly, but the width of the car doesn't help).

Having come from the much more compact TSX, which I still contend was about the perfect size for me, the TL-S just is a much wider and longer vehicle, which I find annoying at times.

Colin

There is nothing wrong with the CL as a car, the people who bought them love them. The problem was that for whatever reason there weren't enough of you buying them especially without steep discounts. From this perspective, it was a failure just like the Legend Coupe before it.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, I realize the trend. It's just not a trend I necessarily appreciate. Hopefully there will be some other options in a slightly smaller size coming out once my TL-S lease ends. I really feel like I need a smaller car.

This is a fact I appreciate ever more when I drive the Miata around on the weekends. That thing is a total go-kart and allows me to dart in and out of traffic with a total sense of control.

Small cars FTW.

cbusAcuracls

I too agree. larger the car more the turn off for me.
I loved my integra for the same reason as your miata. I too will down grade in size for my next car. No need for a 4K car.

cbusAcuracls

I see what you are saying. My bad for going off there. I agree from a sales point of view.

Steven Bell

iTrader: (2)

YES....you ARE the only one....sorry.

Phil05

Nope ur not the only one...i find the new TL actually really good looking and im sure the driving dynamics will be better then the last gen. TL

mr_clean

WOW.. ugly.. ugly.. ugly.. looks like after my 06 6 speed TL gets old I will be going to Lexus or Infiniti. Acura has lost my money on this one..

j9sstar

And it looks like BUTT PRINTS may be making a comeback for '09 as well or am I missing a second seam in the front seats?? Did they not learn their lesson?
BUTT UGLY + BUTT PRINTS = HAVE BEGUN LOOKING BEYOND ACURA FOR MY NEXT CAR....so sad.....


Just curious as to whether you picked up an 08 TL or TL-S? Any negatives? What are the most noticeable differences between 04 and 08 for you? Now that I've seen the '09 I may decide to go with an '08 myself to replace my '04. It's tough to beat the options/value for the money. Thanks!

Jason1000RR

Man, some of you guys take this so personal. You guys act like Acura is out to ruin your life or something.

CL6

If you're going to give up 2 doors you better be driving an awesome looking car... which the CL was definitely not. You'd buy a G35 instead. I love my CL but it's pretty close in size to a sedan but without the practicality... and 6 speed not offered until it was too late. Was the Legend coupe a failure?

ErmBoogie

No thanks, they ruined the car

Klutch TLS

i rather keep my 08 6mt tls aspec kit. until i see 5th gen TL

Colin

I started with Acura right at the end of the last run of Legends. Speaking with most of the older sales guys, they generally felt that the G2 Legend Coupe missed the mark. Sales were very low, even by G2 Legend standards. In fact, this was the reason the CL was conceived. It was felt that the reason the Legend Coupe failed was that it was priced too high. Bringing the first CL around the price point of the original G1 Legend Coupe was thought to be the answer.

CL_Smooth_One

I am not feeling the 09 at all! I love my 08 TL-S 6 speed... geez..I still I wanna see the 09 in person....

Posible future cars
Lexus ISF / 350
BMW M3 / 3 series coupe
Cadillac CTS coupe
Infiniti G37

As for now Acura is not showing me anything that would make me wanna go back ....

bigmoetl1

my next car will be lexus or infinti all the way maybe even a bmw

kobi2002

I'm leaning towards that myself. i was waiting for this new TL to come out and so far it has not hit me like " i need to get this car". Acura is killing my love for honda

KeithL

I'll jump in here too, seeing as I have had an 04, 06 07 and then 08 Type-S. The 07/08 refresh was beautiful. The Type-S was adding the icing to the cake. I woudl go drive a Type-S, it will almost be like a different car, especially compared to the 04, the instumrnt cluster changed, the steering whell,. Then the Type-S handling is very good, the car just feels that much more refined witht he 3.5. The Type-S seats (aside from the crappy leather) are the best seats I have ever had ina car, good mix of support and comfort. I can drive my Type-S for hours without any lower back pain. The car is a joy to ride in normal driving, effortless to control and then puls through when you need it. Twice I sold my TL thinking I woudl get a G35, but each time i came back to TL-S becasue it was such a perfect blend. I knew when I tested a 08 Accord last year I woudl hate the 09 TL, the car is freaking huge. the 3G TL I find to be a perfect zize, not too small so you can haul some people, yet not so big to think you're flinging around a trailer or boat. I flip my cars frequently, but the 09 TL has me thinking I may keep my 08 Type-S for a while.

CL6

This surprises me. Looks like the Legends were running from 32k to 42k... right in there with the Lexus SC and the BMW 3 Series coupes... and so many people, even people who have moved on to nicer cars, still speak of those last Legend Coupes with reverence... especially the 6 Speeds with the Type II engines. Interesting however.

Texas

Based on edmunds article it is about the size/weight of the RL, 5 series bm, G8...

Colin

Yeah, those 6-speeds were something special. Only two were ever sold in HI and both guys loved those cars.