2009 Acura TL MESH GRILL
04-07-2009, 12:43 PM
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04-26-2009, 03:25 AM
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i think i would take the stock grille over the mesh grille... but overall, the new TL's front end makes it look like a trucks front end like the cadillacs and toyota tundra's front grille... and this car is suppose to look like luxary not a truck period
04-26-2009, 08:44 PM
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stock grille over any of those 2. Btw, some of you made very nice paint job to the front beak! 
I like the TL as it is but I understand some ppl might dislike the front of the car so it's all fine. After all, what good is a 40k$+ car if you don't thoroughfully enjoy it?
I like the TL as it is but I understand some ppl might dislike the front of the car so it's all fine. After all, what good is a 40k$+ car if you don't thoroughfully enjoy it?
04-27-2009, 08:27 AM
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My wife, who has never liked the TL... even when I had one... saw the pic on page one of the Ron Jon concept and said, "wow, maybe I'll look into getting a TL".
So to me, that's a damn good grille (and it does look hot). As always, great work Ron Jon...
So to me, that's a damn good grille (and it does look hot). As always, great work Ron Jon...
06-13-2009, 09:35 AM
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06-13-2009, 10:00 AM
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06-16-2009, 02:40 PM
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hey guys if ur looking into the Mesh grill all u gotta do is go to yahoo or google and type in E&G classics and the site should pop up or u can even type E&G classics 2009 Acura TL Grill and can come up that way to.. but if u guys dont find it let me know ill get it im at work now so that should help ya for now if not when i go home ill post the link..ttyl guys be safe.. oo and yea its legit stuff..lol they ship to ne where
06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
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i dont know i like it for some reason maybe if u paint around the mesh like the outside trim the color of the car or paint the mesh and leave the trim chrome i dont know i like both grills i think there sexy but id take the ron jon for the sporty racing aspect of it all
06-16-2009, 03:26 PM
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EG is selling another version with the mesh black, it looks better than the original, but still not good (IMO). Hopefully we get some progress pics from Ronjon of the new grill soon.
06-17-2009, 04:53 AM
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06-30-2009, 04:16 PM
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How could anyone disagree with the improvement of the RonJon grill? I can't remember a product transforming the overall look of a car the way this one does with the new TL.
I'm patiently waiting to see when it is available and what the actual product looks like.
07-02-2009, 07:21 AM
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How about painting the stock grille
Hi - I'm Joe
I bought a 2009 TL
In my purchase deal I arranged to have the
stock grille painted - because I was going to get
the dark grey - and the chrome grille really sticks out.
Looks great painted.
Anyway - I ended up choosing a white TL and I liked the
way it looked with the stock grille.
PS- I like the redeisgn of the 2009.
The understated conservative sport sedan look has been
done too many times.
I bought a 2009 TL
In my purchase deal I arranged to have the
stock grille painted - because I was going to get
the dark grey - and the chrome grille really sticks out.
Looks great painted.
Anyway - I ended up choosing a white TL and I liked the
way it looked with the stock grille.
PS- I like the redeisgn of the 2009.
The understated conservative sport sedan look has been
done too many times.
07-02-2009, 08:22 AM
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We have the funds ready for the tooling, the mnaterials are pre-purchased and in stock (ABS Plastic), and the cost of the grille will be determined at $645 non painted with mesh and hardware, ready to bolt in, but will require paint. We might provide the paint option for certain colors, but we still have to determine that based on matching ability.
The grille will be a 2 piece shell of ABS plastic, vacuum fomed, and sonic welded, mesh will mount right on behind the grille and the RJ logo will be placed on the mesh or not, Just like the concept.
Only thing now is that we need a donor car, which one is pending as we speak. if nothing comes of it, then I will let you guys know. Pics should follow shortly.
The grille will be a 2 piece shell of ABS plastic, vacuum fomed, and sonic welded, mesh will mount right on behind the grille and the RJ logo will be placed on the mesh or not, Just like the concept.
Only thing now is that we need a donor car, which one is pending as we speak. if nothing comes of it, then I will let you guys know. Pics should follow shortly.
07-02-2009, 05:50 PM
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Good news, I am signing the paperwork for ronjon tonight, and dropping my car off for testing on sunday. It will be about 3 weeks without my TL, but well worth a new grille. From my talks with Rondy this thing is going to be sick. So hopefully we will get some progress pics up in the next week or so.
07-11-2009, 02:14 PM
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Meh. $640 + paint makes it far less attractive. Nice, but not $800 worth after paint.
The E&G grille, though, does clash with the car's other lines. Fine detail like the mesh isn't found anywhere else on this car - it's full of big slabby shapes, so it doesn't work well.
Looks like getting used to the OEM is the ticket.
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The E&G grille, though, does clash with the car's other lines. Fine detail like the mesh isn't found anywhere else on this car - it's full of big slabby shapes, so it doesn't work well.
Looks like getting used to the OEM is the ticket.
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07-14-2009, 02:01 PM
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I'm in if the RJ grille appeals to me. I am awaiting the pictures to determine if I like it or not. RJ does make some awesome products so the money isn't the issue for me. I love my car and have been looking forward to the RJ concept to finally drop.
RJ, can't wait to see the finished product. If it is a cool as I expect it to be, please include WDP paint color as an option to paint.
RJ, can't wait to see the finished product. If it is a cool as I expect it to be, please include WDP paint color as an option to paint.
11-30-2009, 10:34 AM
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Meh. $640 + paint makes it far less attractive. Nice, but not $800 worth after paint.
The E&G grille, though, does clash with the car's other lines. Fine detail like the mesh isn't found anywhere else on this car - it's full of big slabby shapes, so it doesn't work well.
Looks like getting used to the OEM is the ticket.
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The E&G grille, though, does clash with the car's other lines. Fine detail like the mesh isn't found anywhere else on this car - it's full of big slabby shapes, so it doesn't work well.
Looks like getting used to the OEM is the ticket.
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From: Rondy Marji [mailto:info@ronjonsportdesign.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:45 AM
To: Sherman, Justin A.
Subject: Re: TL Grill
Sorry, it's not that easy to dissect our pricing and production costs. And our biggest customers are the dealerships who purchase 10 or more at a time. Right now, this is our biggest seller. You can order it in prepped and primed for $645, then have a local shop do the paint for you, then you can see how much it costs. If you cannot convince yourself to buy this grille, you don't have to buy it. Maybe painting your OEM grille or buying a less expensive E&G grille may be better for you.
Rondy J. Marji
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On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Sherman, Justin A. wrote:
Do you anticipate lowering the price on the 4G TL gills in the future? Even at 10% off the price that you had this past weekend on the grill, the price is equal to about 2% the value of the car, and of course no real return on investment.
I think you could sell a lot of these if they were painted in the $375-425 range. But at $770 painted I bet you make a nice margin, but I don't see a big market for it, so volume has to be low.
Justin
I think you could sell a lot of these if they were painted in the $375-425 range. But at $770 painted I bet you make a nice margin, but I don't see a big market for it, so volume has to be low.
Justin
11-30-2009, 11:03 AM
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Please don't hold it too much against him.
It's very hard being a small manufacturer in this kind of niche automotive market.
Nobody's ever satisfied with quality and everybody wants something for next to nothing.
I'm not saying that's what you did, but he's probably just about burned out with emails and phone calls wanting price cuts and small design changes.
I've never been a manufacturer, but I've been at [another site] long enough to have seen and dealt with a few dozen small manufacturers, and the way he's typing to you is not at all unusual when somebody gets buried by service demands.
It's very hard being a small manufacturer in this kind of niche automotive market.
Nobody's ever satisfied with quality and everybody wants something for next to nothing.
I'm not saying that's what you did, but he's probably just about burned out with emails and phone calls wanting price cuts and small design changes.
I've never been a manufacturer, but I've been at [another site] long enough to have seen and dealt with a few dozen small manufacturers, and the way he's typing to you is not at all unusual when somebody gets buried by service demands.
11-30-2009, 11:38 AM
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jsherm007, no offense but Ron's email seems appropiate to me.
you need to keep in mind that what he is selling is a very niche product. so the wiggle room he has on pricing is probably not what you think it is. the upfront R&D he needed to do to get the product where it needed to be was extensive i am sure.
and he provided you with some other options if you didn't want to buy his grille (paint the stock one etc.)
just my two cents.
you need to keep in mind that what he is selling is a very niche product. so the wiggle room he has on pricing is probably not what you think it is. the upfront R&D he needed to do to get the product where it needed to be was extensive i am sure.
and he provided you with some other options if you didn't want to buy his grille (paint the stock one etc.)
just my two cents.
11-30-2009, 04:58 PM
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When I went back to my purchasing dealer, I saw one of these E&G grills on the "parts" wall ... you know, where they keep the factory aftermarket wheels and moonroof visors. I talked to the Sales Manager about it, specifically questioning the "plug and play" aspect of it. He told me that there was a reason they had it on the wall and not on a showroom vehicle.
I easily read between the lines.
I easily read between the lines.
11-30-2009, 05:18 PM
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Please don't hold it too much against him.
It's very hard being a small manufacturer in this kind of niche automotive market.
Nobody's ever satisfied with quality and everybody wants something for next to nothing.
I'm not saying that's what you did, but he's probably just about burned out with emails and phone calls wanting price cuts and small design changes.
I've never been a manufacturer, but I've been at [another site] long enough to have seen and dealt with a few dozen small manufacturers, and the way he's typing to you is not at all unusual when somebody gets buried by service demands.
It's very hard being a small manufacturer in this kind of niche automotive market.
Nobody's ever satisfied with quality and everybody wants something for next to nothing.
I'm not saying that's what you did, but he's probably just about burned out with emails and phone calls wanting price cuts and small design changes.
I've never been a manufacturer, but I've been at [another site] long enough to have seen and dealt with a few dozen small manufacturers, and the way he's typing to you is not at all unusual when somebody gets buried by service demands.
jsherm007, no offense but Ron's email seems appropiate to me.
you need to keep in mind that what he is selling is a very niche product. so the wiggle room he has on pricing is probably not what you think it is. the upfront R&D he needed to do to get the product where it needed to be was extensive i am sure.
and he provided you with some other options if you didn't want to buy his grille (paint the stock one etc.)
just my two cents.
you need to keep in mind that what he is selling is a very niche product. so the wiggle room he has on pricing is probably not what you think it is. the upfront R&D he needed to do to get the product where it needed to be was extensive i am sure.
and he provided you with some other options if you didn't want to buy his grille (paint the stock one etc.)
just my two cents.
Also, the way the sender of the email worded it, he was basically dissing my product, no offense, but I felt a little too insulted to even say anything else. prices can't be just negotiated beyond operating cost. We got to pay the bills too.
well put and keep up the great work.
12-01-2009, 12:06 PM
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Here is the exact message I sent RJ. I never 'dissed' the product. I think the product looks great! Why does he think I inquired about it? If I thought it was crap, then I wouln't be interested in buying one.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:36 AM, wrote:
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:36 AM, wrote:
Do you anticipate lowering the price on the 4G TL gills in the future? Even at 10% off the price that you had this past weekend on the grill, the price is equal to about 2% the value of the car, and of course no real return on investment.
I think you could sell a lot of these if they were painted in the $375-425 range. But at $770 painted I bet you make a nice margin, but I don't see a big market for it, so volume has to be low.
Justin
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12-01-2009, 12:36 PM
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Here is the exact message I sent RJ. I never 'dissed' the product. I think the product looks great! Why does he think I inquired about it? If I thought it was crap, then I wouln't be interested in buying one.
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:36 AM, wrote:
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:36 AM, wrote:
Do you anticipate lowering the price on the 4G TL gills in the future? Even at 10% off the price that you had this past weekend on the grill, the price is equal to about 2% the value of the car, and of course no real return on investment.
I think you could sell a lot of these if they were painted in the $375-425 range. But at $770 painted I bet you make a nice margin, but I don't see a big market for it, so volume has to be low.
Justin
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