Start your car without using the clutch (6-speed/Manual)
I figured out how to start the car without the clutch! BUT, it could be a hazard if you forget to leave your car in neutral.
I hope you aren't parked behind anyone or behind something if you forget to leave it in neutral before you start. 1) look under the steering wheel and above the pedals, there should be a plastic cover that's snapped in, unless it has already been removed. Take out that plastic cover 2) locate the switch! its the one with the yellow plug, not gray http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...4262009093.jpg on the other side, you will see this: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...4262009096.jpg sorry, i couldn't fit my phone down there to snap the other side so I just took this one. this is the switch that makes it mandatory for you step the clutch in all the way in order to start the motor. What I did to hold the switch in: - used a zip-tie - a piece of cardboard 3) Zip-tie the piece of folded cardboard to hold the switch in place :wish:REMEMBER TO LEAVE YOUR GEAR IN NEUTRAL BEFORE STARTING YOUR CAR!!! :wish: if you want to test it first before doing anything, hold the switch in with a finger and try starting your car without pressing the clutch. (pics and mod from an '06 TSX) |
Wouldn't that cause other problems since your car thinks you always have the clutch enguaged?
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What's the point of doing it?
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Originally Posted by Itchytoe
(Post 10833140)
Wouldn't that cause other problems since your car thinks you always have the clutch enguaged?
no... i think your just tricking your starter into thinking it's enggaged, they do the same set up for Remote Starters on manuels... don't really see a point in it.. last i checked it wasn't that much of a mission to press down a clutch LOLLOL :tomato: |
I predict rtea2008 will need the services of a bodyshop soon.
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Originally Posted by JTso
(Post 10833164)
What's the point of doing it?
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Originally Posted by Itchytoe
(Post 10833140)
Wouldn't that cause other problems since your car thinks you always have the clutch enguaged?
Give your cruise control a try now. |
thats the sensor that failed on my car... you can just uplug the plug.. and put a wire in both sockets.. =) then you can unbolt your sensor and send it to me. lol.
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Originally Posted by Hoosier_Buddy
(Post 10833577)
+1
Give your cruise control a try now. Still, defeating a safety feature of the car is a really bad idea.....and with cardboard and a ziptie????....that's just lame. If you've ever been in or witnessed someone accidentally start a car in gear, it's usually not a pretty sight. |
Originally Posted by Itchytoe
(Post 10833140)
Wouldn't that cause other problems since your car thinks you always have the clutch enguaged?
Originally Posted by JTso
(Post 10833164)
What's the point of doing it?
Originally Posted by tony4311
(Post 10833336)
agreed. Why exactly do you want to do this?
Originally Posted by Hoosier_Buddy
(Post 10833577)
+1
Give your cruise control a try now.
Originally Posted by vthree
(Post 10833720)
thats the sensor that failed on my car... you can just uplug the plug.. and put a wire in both sockets.. =) then you can unbolt your sensor and send it to me. lol.
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btw, I don't think that hitting the clutch is much of a safety measure-maybe just a little. You can still forget and lift your foot off the clutch after you start your car while in gear. But in any case, yes, why disable it...but I guess that is fine, I put it in the same category as another thread where someone wants to merge the 2 exhaust pipes into only one! Why do this!!
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Originally Posted by rtea2008
(Post 10834598)
To ease the starting method of a standard car... getting tired to push in the clutch to start now. haha
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Originally Posted by kanonen
(Post 10835189)
btw, I don't think that hitting the clutch is much of a safety measure-maybe just a little. You can still forget and lift your foot off the clutch after you start your car while in gear. But in any case, yes, why disable it...but I guess that is fine, I put it in the same category as another thread where someone wants to merge the 2 exhaust pipes into only one! Why do this!!
If the car starts with the clutch engaged and the trans in gear (which is a lot more likely now that cars all have fuel injection and high output ignition systems), and your foot is nowhere near the clutch pedal to disengage it, you and the car are going on potentially destructive ride until you figure out what to do. In the old days (before clutch interlock switches that bypass the starter) cars usually didn't start so easily and often the car would "bump" but would stall as soon as you released the key. ...something to think about..... |
If you ever needed to move the car a bit and had no other way to do it (the engine was dead), moving with the aid of the starter motor and this trick would work.
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Originally Posted by biker
(Post 10842126)
If you ever needed to move the car a bit and had no other way to do it (the engine was dead), moving with the aid of the starter motor and this trick would work.
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Originally Posted by rtea2008
(Post 10834598)
lol no i'm going to keep it haha. Why don't you wire yours?
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I can imagine not pushing the pedal in to be easier, but in that case I would have gotten an AT. The only benefit I can think of is that there is reduced wear on the clutch as a result of engaging it less often? What do you guys think of this?
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Originally Posted by 2K6TSX
(Post 10844791)
I can imagine not pushing the pedal in to be easier, but in that case I would have gotten an AT. The only benefit I can think of is that there is reduced wear on the clutch as a result of engaging it less often? What do you guys think of this?
Again I say "what's the point". |
Originally Posted by poltergeist
(Post 10849865)
That just makes no sense at all. One way or the other you have to depress the clutch pedal (to disengage the clutch) in order to put the trans in gear. The only difference is whether you do it before or after you start the engine.
Again I say "what's the point". |
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You are supposed to leave the car in gear for a manual tran when parked. |
Truly, this is a terrible idea.
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Originally Posted by JTso
(Post 10860826)
^^
You are supposed to leave the car in gear for a manual tran when parked. |
Originally Posted by 2K6TSX
(Post 10862910)
yup i'm aware of this, it's how my car is always parked
1- Climb in, push the clutch pedal down to take the trans out of gear (or yank it out of gear with the clutch engaged which at the least is hard on the shifter bushings and cables). 2- Let the clutch pedal up so you can have the "benefit" of not having to start the car with the clutch disengaged. 3- When you decide you want to go, now you depress the clutch pedal again to disengage the clutch so you can put the car in gear, then engage the clutch again to drive away. Makes perfect sense to me.......or not.... |
Originally Posted by rtea2008
(Post 10834598)
To ease the starting method of a standard car... getting tired to push in the clutch to start now. haha
It's not hard pushing the clutch. And during those rare times when I didn't pull the gear shifter into neutral all the way, being able to slam on the clutch pedal instinctively has saved my vehicle from lots of damage. And man, if you're tired of pushing the clutch in for the first time when you get into your vehicle, it must be hard for you to even drive down the street... |
Theoretically, if ur car stopped at railroad tracks or somewhere else where it cant stop, u can use the starter to get it moving. i know, I know, its not good for the car ect, but if u got no one to push it, this maybe better than being hit by a train....
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Originally Posted by valeratj
(Post 10863090)
Theoretically, if ur car stopped at railroad tracks or somewhere else where it cant stop, u can use the starter to get it moving. i know, I know, its not good for the car ect, but if u got no one to push it, this maybe better than being hit by a train....
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Originally Posted by valeratj
(Post 10863090)
Theoretically, if ur car stopped at railroad tracks or somewhere else where it cant stop, u can use the starter to get it moving. i know, I know, its not good for the car ect, but if u got no one to push it, this maybe better than being hit by a train....
And yes, I have toe-started the TSX before when my car wouldn't start in my driveway (I was installing my rear view camera). |
i agree with rtea2008. i can see if you wouldn't do it to your own car, but at least understand why somebody else would do it. the only reason that switch is there in the first place is as a precautionary measure so idiots that don't know how to work a vehicle properly don't screw up and hit things. i have a '04 6 speed with a remote starter and it works the same way. starts up when i press the button, but if i get in and use the key, i have to press the clutch. i have to press the friggen clutch so many times anyways (especially in a 6 speed hah) that i really don't need the left leg exercise.
but seriously, i think everybody here knows that if you were to get into your car, start it in neutral, and let it warm up for a minute, you would probably take your foot off the clutch before putting it into first gear. so that fact that my car will make me clutch to start the car regardless is borderline insulting to my intelligence. save it for the fords...... |
Originally Posted by poltergeist
(Post 10862970)
O.K so with this "mod" (if you leave your car in gear when it's parked) you have to....
1- Climb in, push the clutch pedal down to take the trans out of gear (or yank it out of gear with the clutch engaged which at the least is hard on the shifter bushings and cables). 2- Let the clutch pedal up so you can have the "benefit" of not having to start the car with the clutch disengaged. 3- When you decide you want to go, now you depress the clutch pedal again to disengage the clutch so you can put the car in gear, then engage the clutch again to drive away. Makes perfect sense to me.......or not.... |
^ I was talking about moving the car by having the starter turn the engine to move the car from the critical spot. Toe starting is there too
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Originally Posted by 2K6TSX
(Post 10874525)
just to make sure, you know I don't have this mod right? I don't deem it worth modifying, pushing in the clutch to start the car is not a problem for me
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Originally Posted by super jumbo
(Post 10873523)
i agree with rtea2008. i can see if you wouldn't do it to your own car, but at least understand why somebody else would do it. the only reason that switch is there in the first place is as a precautionary measure so idiots that don't know how to work a vehicle properly don't screw up and hit things. i have a '04 6 speed with a remote starter and it works the same way. starts up when i press the button, but if i get in and use the key, i have to press the clutch. i have to press the friggen clutch so many times anyways (especially in a 6 speed hah) that i really don't need the left leg exercise.
but seriously, i think everybody here knows that if you were to get into your car, start it in neutral, and let it warm up for a minute, you would probably take your foot off the clutch before putting it into first gear. so that fact that my car will make me clutch to start the car regardless is borderline insulting to my intelligence. save it for the fords...... Like someone said earlier in this thread, if it hurts your leg too much to depress the clutch pedal for a minute or so at a time, I think you'd be better off with an A/T. |
i despise automatic transmissions... it's not a bad feature and i wouldn't go though the trouble of disabling it because it doesn't bother me that much.
it's really just the principle that it is unnecessary to clutch if i'm looking at the stick shift and it's in neutral when i start the car up. |
bump! LOL i just bought a 04 tsx and the previous owner looks like cut the plug and electric taped some wires together or maybe just an individual wire from grounding out. im searching this cuz i want to revert it back to normal!
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Maybe the car had a remote starter and they removed it? I'm sure this switch would come into play when they wire it for a remote.
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