Are the 2.5's THAT much slower than the 3.2's?
08-08-2005, 11:05 PM
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Are the 2.5's THAT much slower than the 3.2's?
I keep hearing stories of 3.2's smoking preludes... lexus's (you know who you are) and some other cars...I dont know if my 96 2.5 can do that... I mean...I know theres a 6cyl vs a 5cyl and a 2.5 engine vs a 3.2 engine, but does it make that much of a huge difference?
Put it this way...
if a 3.2 were to race a 2.5, would the 2.5 get smoked that bad? (i mean like by 2+ seconds... )
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Put it this way...
if a 3.2 were to race a 2.5, would the 2.5 get smoked that bad? (i mean like by 2+ seconds... )
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08-08-2005, 11:15 PM
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The 3.2s will probably only "keep up" with the nonvtec preludes or beat it by a small margin. VTEC preludes will leave the 3.2s in the dust.
If anything, the 2.5s are not that slower than the 3.2s. Cetainly not by 2+ seconds. the 3.2 runs low 16s while the 2.5 probably runs mid to high 16s. The difference in hp of the 2.5 and 3.2 isn't too large. The 2.5L is underrated from the factory. Torque is where the 3.2 shines over the 2.5, but oviously the 3.2TL weighs more.
If anything, the 2.5s are not that slower than the 3.2s. Cetainly not by 2+ seconds. the 3.2 runs low 16s while the 2.5 probably runs mid to high 16s. The difference in hp of the 2.5 and 3.2 isn't too large. The 2.5L is underrated from the factory. Torque is where the 3.2 shines over the 2.5, but oviously the 3.2TL weighs more.
08-09-2005, 12:17 AM
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Stock VTEC 5 speed Preludes usually tie with me (and thats with my engine mods)
The 3.2 TL weighs about 100 pounds over the 2.5, torque helps the 3.2 in a race.. the hp difference is about 15 to 20 hp in the real world.. so the difference is smaller than you think.
08-09-2005, 02:19 AM
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yea, last night i was driving on some twisties with my friend on his bike and then we got to this little town and we got to a red light, i held down the brake reved up to about 3k RPM and then took off. red lining it every gear (i had it in D4 i believe) and i was pretty surprised with the performance of the car
btw i have a 2.5TL
btw i have a 2.5TL
08-09-2005, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike89Acord96TL
between the 2.5 and 3.2, only 24 hp diff, ya V5 and V6, but it wouldnt get smoked. But would the 3.2 win, sure.
I5
If there is someone with a 3.2 in New England, maybe we can go up to NED one night and get a couple real numbers.
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08-09-2005, 10:23 AM
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I wouldn't say they are slow. They are quick. If you need some extra speed, you can easily have it.
I don't think anyone here is calling them sports cars, or trying to claim them as being close to that fast.
I don't think anyone here is calling them sports cars, or trying to claim them as being close to that fast.
08-09-2005, 10:26 AM
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My brother has a 3.2, we've raced a few times. At a red light we put it into D3 and slam the gas, we stay almost perfectly parallel until I upshift to D4. I end up staying the same speed, speeding up very slowly, and mr bro shoots off like a rocket. But like Lof8 said, the cars are slow anyway. I know mine is, and I mean its a lux car not anywhere near a sports car so I dont even waste my time trying to race or buy performance mods. Im all about looking good and gas milage lol.
08-09-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 982.5TL
My brother has a 3.2, we've raced a few times. At a red light we put it into D3 and slam the gas, we stay almost perfectly parallel until I upshift to D4. I end up staying the same speed, speeding up very slowly, and mr bro shoots off like a rocket. But like Lof8 said, the cars are slow anyway. I know mine is, and I mean its a lux car not anywhere near a sports car so I dont even waste my time trying to race or buy performance mods. Im all about looking good and gas milage lol.
08-09-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lof8
They're both slow. These things aren't sports cars by any means.
08-09-2005, 02:52 PM
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For their time our cars had good acceleration, but the HP wars have come back in the past few years...
08-09-2005, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
Why D3?
Try it some time. Start at D4 from a dead stop. Then from D3 at a dead stop and see if its faster. Not totally sure if it is or not, but its just something ive gotten in the habit of doing. lol.
08-09-2005, 07:07 PM
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Yea. It's all the same until 4th gear obviously. lol
What a lot of Legend guys do is start in 1st gear, and when at redline, shift to D3. When the tranny is in second gear, shift the knob down to 2 and it'll allow the engine to redline in 2nd also. After it Redlines, pull it into D3 and then finally D4.
What a lot of Legend guys do is start in 1st gear, and when at redline, shift to D3. When the tranny is in second gear, shift the knob down to 2 and it'll allow the engine to redline in 2nd also. After it Redlines, pull it into D3 and then finally D4.
08-09-2005, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KADAW
Starting from a stop in D3 wouldnt make u accelerate faster, cuz from a stop ur going to have to go through the first 2 gears anyway..
yeah, i would start at 1.... then in like 3-4 rpm in 2nd gear i get a sick ass boost. then i goto 3
08-09-2005, 08:00 PM
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Putting it in D3 makes the shifts a bit rougher/faster than in D4, I have no idea if it really makes that big of a difference though.
Its the same thing as the "sport/normal" button for the 90-93 Honda Accord automatic transmissions. I think Toyota had the same thing on the Camry around that time.
Its the same thing as the "sport/normal" button for the 90-93 Honda Accord automatic transmissions. I think Toyota had the same thing on the Camry around that time.
08-09-2005, 08:13 PM
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Switching between D3 and D4 doesn't give any more power in 1st and 2nd gear, or make them shift any farther past redline in my car at all.
It does change the shift points, but not if you are at WOT, like you would/should be if you are straight line racing, like the context of the thread.
I've tried it before, WOT, and had the same times/speeds/rpm's through first gear in D3 and D4.
For just normal driving though, D3 does act as a sport/economy, power/comfort, sport/normal sort of switch, shifting at higher RPMs and never going into 4th gear.
It just bugs me when some people with automatics claim more power and higher shifts when they are racing and they manually "shift" their automatics. I suppose you would if you weren't at WOT, but then, are you really racing?
It does change the shift points, but not if you are at WOT, like you would/should be if you are straight line racing, like the context of the thread.
I've tried it before, WOT, and had the same times/speeds/rpm's through first gear in D3 and D4.
For just normal driving though, D3 does act as a sport/economy, power/comfort, sport/normal sort of switch, shifting at higher RPMs and never going into 4th gear.
It just bugs me when some people with automatics claim more power and higher shifts when they are racing and they manually "shift" their automatics. I suppose you would if you weren't at WOT, but then, are you really racing?
08-09-2005, 08:17 PM
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i would think in WOT , an auto would change it when ur close or at redline so no need to be 'shifting' back n forth.. right? like so when am' at a light and im going to wot it anyway y put it in 1st n shit to 2nd at redline when the car dose it anyway ..? juss a thought my 3cents. ??
08-09-2005, 08:19 PM
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i understand cruzing on the highway in D4 n u would drop it to D3 so it downshift to pass a civic or something.. so i was juss talking in the case of Wot accerations ^^ sorrie for the long double post..
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Yup, you see it the same way I do. D4 or D3 at WOT doesn't effect 1st and 2nd.
Even on the highway, with enough push of the pedal, you will drop into 3rd gear, you don't even really have to put it into D3, unless you are waiting for a tight opening or something, then it is nice to have the power right there, instead of waiting for a shift.
Even on the highway, with enough push of the pedal, you will drop into 3rd gear, you don't even really have to put it into D3, unless you are waiting for a tight opening or something, then it is nice to have the power right there, instead of waiting for a shift.
08-09-2005, 08:41 PM
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Maybe it's a figment of my imagination, although I'm pretty sure it's not, but my car peels out way more when I have it in D1 and I floor it than when I leave it in D4 and floor it. I've tried it multiple times and gotten the same result. Logically, it doesn't make sense to me, but I notice a difference...
08-09-2005, 08:49 PM
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Maybe it's a figment of my imagination, although I'm pretty sure it's not, but my car peels out way more when I have it in D1 and I floor it than when I leave it in D4 and floor it. I've tried it multiple times and gotten the same result. Logically, it doesn't make sense to me, but I notice a difference...
its ur car , drive it how u want.. but i juss dont think its "faster" "better" if ur in any of the 'setting or gear..thingy" when u WOT from a stop.. i think i should juss shut up now
08-09-2005, 08:52 PM
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Lol do u drive with ur hood open!?
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j/k
08-09-2005, 08:56 PM
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Nope, plexiglass hood, so you can see right through it. Just windex it along with the windows every week and I'm set.
Got pic? i wanna see..
08-09-2005, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KADAW
im not trying to be an ass.. hah but i dont think so.. cuz ur starting in 1st anywhich way.. and if its in 1 or D4 the car starts in first iono what car dont. soo yeah , hah im not sayint starting in 1 is better then D4 or visevirsa[sp] im juss saying playing with the gear in the auto isnt ganna make the car acc. faster ...
its ur car , drive it how u want.. but i juss dont think its "faster" "better" if ur in any of the 'setting or gear..thingy" when u WOT from a stop.. i think i should juss shut up now
its ur car , drive it how u want.. but i juss dont think its "faster" "better" if ur in any of the 'setting or gear..thingy" when u WOT from a stop.. i think i should juss shut up now
08-09-2005, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KADAW
Thats hott.. i always wanted a white car so i can get that kinda hood n paint it white'ish around the side so it looks like frost or something, hah but thats kool.. im sure ur car dose turn more heads then minez.. for one its bonestock and i also cant drive it rite now due to $$ problems with insurrences
Got pic? i wanna see..
Got pic? i wanna see..
Mine is stock except for clear corners, a light tint on part of the tail lights, and a effed up rear bumper.
I've got a carputer install on the inside though, thats worth bragging about.
08-09-2005, 09:16 PM
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Also, the 2.5 suppossedly does 0 to 60 in like 9.3 or something, which seems extremely slow to me. Ken said in another thread that the stock 3.2 can hit 60 in around 7.8. Is the 2.5 faster than 9.3, the 3.2 slower than 7.8, or are they really not that close to eachother?
08-09-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
An I5 turns way more heads than a V6
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2.5 TL should be in the mid to high 8's in 0-60
08-09-2005, 09:55 PM
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i love the sound of the I5 specially after 3700rpm 
too bad no vtec
have any of you guys heard of "Extrude Hone"
too bad no vtec
have any of you guys heard of "Extrude Hone"
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
2.5 TL should be in the mid to high 8's in 0-60
