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Old 09-21-2012, 10:14 PM
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I believe number 5 is all that's needed for the tsx coilovers
Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "number 5" what exactly is it being referred to when installing the TSX coil-overs? Thanks guys.
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BTW, thank you Thaillest30 for keeping this topic up to date w/ your posts. Good stuff for a new to me RL owner.
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Sure man, but I do apologize for my lag response time. I work the night shift so my days are twisted.
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Forgive my ignorance, but when you say "number 5" what exactly is it being referred to when installing the TSX coil-overs? Thanks guys.
The number 5 part just means the size of the washer. So just google #5 washer or go to a hardware supply store, they should have the washers labeled by number as well. I'm still trying to get an idea of where the washers go before I take the plunge
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Hi guys! Need some advice on tires... I have 235/45/17 on 07-08 TL wheels and I plan to get about 1-2 inches lower. I have Koni reds on right now and it sits a little lower than stock. I'll be getting Vogtland springs very soon to go about an inch lower. From where it looks, I might rub in the rear, so I'll roll the rears soon as well. I want to know if I'll have any more rubbing issues with these tires. Would switching to 225s help? I like the grip on the 235s too much; I want to keep 235s if the handling will go down by switching tires. From what I read these should have +45 offset

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it all depends on how much camber you have, roll your fenders for sure though and i would go 225, it wont make that much of a difference in you get a good tire, but thats just my op
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Hi, someone please confirms the 04-08 TL coilover will fit our car. I'm planning to get the new Tein Street advance from the TL. Since our car is very heavy, I think the TL will be a better choice than TSX.Thx.
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I know I read somewheres that the springs rates are linear, so tsx coilovers' springs rates would not affect so much.... In regards to TL coilovers, I've yet to see anyone fit them yet. Could TL coilovers fit on a tsx? Or vice versa....

Thanks pmendoza! That's good info there!
However, I hammered in the drivers side rear fender lip just to be safe. Doing the other side bright and early. I put two dimples for being too careless and using a POS method with two hammers.... If looking from the top of the fender, it looks like the tires will make it. I don't know. There was a 2 week wait for vogtlands to be shipped from Germany. I spoke with three reps and thy never got back to me. I put in an order for some H&R's last week and expect delivery tomorrow. So excited!! I might put my stock 02's back on before I put the springs on if there would be any possible rubbing at all.

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Old 01-06-2013, 08:39 PM
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Also, what kind of camber kits are you guys running if at all?
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im using accord camber joints up front, which i learned the hard way, i would much rather have the ball join type, and i have accord lower control arms lower ball joint type in the rear, which i need to reset actually haha (didnt set the threads evenly so its maxed out on one side of the double threaded joint and not on the other...)
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The reason I ask, I read a lot about the spc ball joints for the front would hit the fenders on ka8/ka7s and was wondering if rl's would have that same prob.... The camber arms for the rear that you mention I think will be what I'll try to get. I hear most camber kits are universal for our cars. I just don't know which ones. I'm hoping the camber will not be too bad to need a camber kit. I'll be getting an alignment within a week or so. Broke now, classes start next week and what not haha. This will be my first suspension job I'll ever do on any of the cars I've owned. I'm still a noob.
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Hi, someone please confirms the 04-08 TL coilover will fit our car. I'm planning to get the new Tein Street advance from the TL. Since our car is very heavy, I think the TL will be a better choice than TSX.Thx.
I saw this post on a different legend/RL forum...

http://forums.acuralegend.org/showpo...4&postcount=19
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:39 PM
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I guess u can put tl coilovers on! Good find! I seen that car on YouTube a couple times. I give that guy mad props for all that he's done to it!
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I guess u can put tl coilovers on! Good find! I seen that car on YouTube a couple times. I give that guy mad props for all that he's done to it!
Yeah, I had no clue until I read that post a few weeks ago. I guess not that many people are willing to be guinea pigs in terms of fitment!


And just be careful with spring rates and all, I read somewhere else that the most weight difference is in the rear with the RL so other car's suspension are too soft in the rear. This is why the RL tends to sag in the rear with aftermarket suspension. Make sure you get a nice spring rate in the rear. The TL suspension would definitely be a good pick if you are going Tein, or try these
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Will 19x8.5 +35 235-35-19 tires with 1.2 drop fit on an rl without modification?
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i had to roll and pull the rears to make my old '96 RL work with the same wheel setup you just mentioned. are you looking to tuck the tires or...?
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No just a clean flush look nothing too dramatic I have a 2004 rl im about to get some exe konvex for
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:48 PM
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And h&r springs that will drop it 30mmordering from Ebay UK if anyone is wondering
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You could do a Koni red and spring retrofit like me hehe.

I say do as you wish. You will enjoy your car more either way!
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Originally Posted by Rondeezie View Post
Will 19x8.5 +35 235-35-19 tires with 1.2 drop fit on an rl without modification?
You will probably need to roll and pull camber in a bit.




As far as the worry of the TSX spring rates vs the heavier RL;

If you look at the spring specs for all the major branded coilover kits overseas you will notice they all use linear springs with about 10-12k up front and 6-8k rear. Now if you look the same specs up for whats available here in the states for the TSX you will notice the spring rates are the same. Should not be an issue at all.


Camber kits:

Ive tried different versions of front and rear camber kits on the RL and here are my take.

SPC front ball joint type. Depending how low you go they will hit the top of the upper A arm well in the boddy.

Ingalls front anchor bolt type. These will squeak and give you less adsjustablility then the ball joint type.


Rear SPC adjustable arm. These have not been good for me at all. The ball joint has worn out in 2 arms over the last 2 years and needed to be replaced. Not to mention when you go to install you will need to widen the subframe mounting point as the shaft where the throughbolt goes through is a little to long to fit in the subframe.

Megan racing rear adjustable arm. I am currently waiting to have these installed and will report back when issues arise.
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What is the right offset for rim to be flush with fender +45?
Old hatch...what offset do you.run I love the way your car sits its Classy
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Has any one tried of heard anything about the h&r ka9 euro lowering springs?
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Lifting at least 2 or 3 inches ?

I have a 98 RL and have 235/45R20 and they rub just a little on turns only. Im trying to find a way to lift my car at least 2 or 3 inches because the rims was giving to me so rather not buy new one. Any Suggestions to lift my car ?
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45 is way to tall on 20's. Try some 35 max. Your speedo is probably like 10 miles off

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Is there any way I can Lift my RL a couple of in. ?
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KA9 coilovers simplified.

After plenty of research and digging, I've located a distributor here in the North America that supplies what I think is the best complete coilover system for the KA9 (Honda Legend/Acura RL).

Link on the link and enjoy these badboys...

http://www.tdotperformance.ca/hsd-hr...egend-ka9.html
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Help help help!!!!!!!!

Does Anyone Have Any Ways I Can Go About Lifting My 1St Gen 98 RL?????
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Can Adjustable coilovers give you a lift greater than the OEM? If So Which Is An inexpensive way to do so
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ok so im still completely confused on this whole coilover thing lol. what exactly can i use for coilovers. i keep seeing so many different things i can use. so tsx, legend what all for sure works. cause i wanna vip my 99 rl out and im rying to get some coils possibly ordered very soon. and i was told the tsx function and form type1 work but i have to remove the rubber on the front oem top hat and use washers in the rear. so i wanna be for sure before i order something lol.
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So, I've been going back and forth on this post for about a month now. And everywhere that I've looked and done research, it says I can use first gen tsx full coilovers. I purchased a pair of form & function type one full coilover and I noticed the front wont bolt up due to the bolts on the top hats being differently spaced apart on the oem ones than the F&F. I've heard that simply using my stock tophats would work but there is a slight problem there.. I can't seem to find a way to remove the tophats off the form and function coilovers. They have no slot for an Allen key or another wrench. Can anyone help here? I have a 1998 RL.
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Isnt there a nut ontop holding the assembly together? If you dont have a spring compressor, you can loosen the preload, and use your wrench to turn the nut, while holding the shock absorber
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Coilovers on 1998 RL

Hello all. The 1st gen TSX did it for me. I got Buddy Club N+ and the were beautiful. The front had to replace the top hats with the original RLs. The back needed a spacer on the bottom bold on both sides.

The ride was a bit too harsh for me because i couldn't tweak it to accommodate the extra 500+ lbs the Coilovers was not made for. I broke 2 rims becausde of the harshness and the 2 in the back started leaking after one summer in Montreal.(really bad roads)

If u live in a cits with nice roads its a GO. The car sat beautiful when i had it. I cant post pics because im still new.
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Hello all. The 1st gen TSX did it for me. I got Buddy Club N+ and the were beautiful. The front had to replace the top hats with the original RLs. The back needed a spacer on the bottom bold on both sides.

The ride was a bit too harsh for me because i couldn't tweak it to accommodate the extra 500+ lbs the Coilovers was not made for. I broke 2 rims becausde of the harshness and the 2 in the back started leaking after one summer in Montreal.(really bad roads)

If u live in a cits with nice roads its a GO. The car sat beautiful when i had it. I cant post pics because im still new.
Hi, can you tell me how you installed the coilover. I'm planning to get the new Tein street basis from the TL.
You said the front need to reuse the OEM tophat? What other parts do I need to reuse from the OEM shock? It is just the tophat only, no rubber or oring like that?
And do you also need to reuse the tophat for the rear too? Thanks.
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5. You can use 1st gen TSX coilovers as well. I believe from what I read the rears need a slight spacer on the bottom through bolt and the fronts should bolt in no probs. You also have to use your own top hats as in the lower model teins etc. This usually runs in the $800.00 dollar range as well.



This is copied from the first post as far as what needs to be done to use TSX units.


If you need to raise your car I doubt most coilovers will raise your car up. You can try getting newer oem springs or maybe buying koni struts for the 91-95 legend and having grooves machined into them for whatever height you want.




If your coilovers started leaking it was because it was either to low to the point the end of the shaft busted a seal(bad manufacturer design) or just defective. I know people who have been using tsx teins for years on their RL with no problems.

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Ok, guys. I'm going to get the newest Tein street basis from the TL with 12k front and 6K rear. After reading so many posts and I still couldn't find a clear info. on how to install the coilover. So I have a question. I must reuse everything from the stock shock right (top hat, rubber washer, etc.?). Do I miss anything else? BTW, I want to low my car between 1.5-1.8" basically one finger gap all around. Do I need a camber kit as well. Is there anything else that I need to install alone with the coilover? 96 RL. Thx.

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Need some help here lol.
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The TSX ones you just use your oem tophat. Don't know about the TL ones.
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Thx for the reply. To my knowledge, I still need to reuse my top hat for the TL too. My question is this, whether I use the TSX or TL coilover; so I need to reuse the top hat plus all of the rubber bushings or washers from the stock shock right? Does this sound right? Sorry, my grammars suck lol.
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I do not know anything really about the TL coilovers. I know the TSX ones work with only needeing to reuse the top mounts from the oem struts.


THe TL ones might be different tube thickness that wont fit into the front pinchforks or maybe wont git in the rear. I personally do not know. If someone has successfully used the TL coilovers you would need to ask that person. I haven't seen anyone post up about this as of yet though.


Sorry I couldn't be more help on that front.
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