RDX Powerplant
01-11-2005, 03:07 PM
#41
Suzuka Master
Toyota has more models of SUVs than does Honda. So giving the RAV4 a bigger engine seems silly to me. If you want a bigger engine/more power/more room get the Highlander or 4Runner. By increasing the engine size etc, you are going to increase the price of the RAV4 right outta Entry-Level status.
01-11-2005, 04:20 PM
#44
101 years of heartache...
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago's North Side/Champaign, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 3,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
don't forget, rumors say the MDX will have a 3.8L producing 300+ HP. I think a 250 hp 3.0L V6 would be great for the RDX. Rev it up to 6800 like the TL and you have a winner with plenty of pop.
01-11-2005, 04:45 PM
#45
101 years of heartache...
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago's North Side/Champaign, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 3,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DEI99662
I dont think the CR-V needs a V6 engine right now, maybe as an option. It definitely needs a power boost. The TSX should get a V6 option plus SHAWD.
I believe now that Honda has the technology, the TL should get an optional 3.5L, 300 HP SH-AWD package. However, Acura doesn't give you many options, so maybe making the 300 HP 3.5L + SH-AWD standard would be a way to give the TSX a 3.0L 240-250 HP engine. The RL can get a 3.8-4.0L V6 capable of 330-350 HP. But what many don't see is the beauty of the TSX's k24 (although it is under a lot of load) is that it is fun to play with. Would a TSX with a V6 handle as well with a k24 TSX. Then again, I guess the SH-AWD would help with handling, too. If IMA comes to Acura soon, then there is no need for a 6 in the TSX (not that there is already, it is very competative right now). But, let's just say IMA is NOT an option for some reason, then I can see why the future TSX would need a V6 to stay competative. But the V6 is one reason why the TL is priced higher than the TSX in my opinion. Just my :twocents:
01-11-2005, 07:33 PM
#47
Pro
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Henderson, NV
Age: 49
Posts: 672
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
yes, but only if the TL gets up to 3.5L, 300+ HP.
I believe now that Honda has the technology, the TL should get an optional 3.5L, 300 HP SH-AWD package. However, Acura doesn't give you many options, so maybe making the 300 HP 3.5L + SH-AWD standard would be a way to give the TSX a 3.0L 240-250 HP engine. The RL can get a 3.8-4.0L V6 capable of 330-350 HP. But what many don't see is the beauty of the TSX's k24 (although it is under a lot of load) is that it is fun to play with. Would a TSX with a V6 handle as well with a k24 TSX. Then again, I guess the SH-AWD would help with handling, too. If IMA comes to Acura soon, then there is no need for a 6 in the TSX (not that there is already, it is very competative right now). But, let's just say IMA is NOT an option for some reason, then I can see why the future TSX would need a V6 to stay competative. But the V6 is one reason why the TL is priced higher than the TSX in my opinion. Just my :twocents:
I believe now that Honda has the technology, the TL should get an optional 3.5L, 300 HP SH-AWD package. However, Acura doesn't give you many options, so maybe making the 300 HP 3.5L + SH-AWD standard would be a way to give the TSX a 3.0L 240-250 HP engine. The RL can get a 3.8-4.0L V6 capable of 330-350 HP. But what many don't see is the beauty of the TSX's k24 (although it is under a lot of load) is that it is fun to play with. Would a TSX with a V6 handle as well with a k24 TSX. Then again, I guess the SH-AWD would help with handling, too. If IMA comes to Acura soon, then there is no need for a 6 in the TSX (not that there is already, it is very competative right now). But, let's just say IMA is NOT an option for some reason, then I can see why the future TSX would need a V6 to stay competative. But the V6 is one reason why the TL is priced higher than the TSX in my opinion. Just my :twocents:
The question isn't if Honda will produce such a car, but when and will they see the US as a market for a factory hot rod.
01-11-2005, 11:47 PM
#48
101 years of heartache...
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago's North Side/Champaign, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 3,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
Why not put the K24 in the next RSX (assuming there is one). When the TSX first hit our shores, Honda of Japan showed a concept Accord for their home market. The heading read, "Beyond Type R". It showed the Accord with the K24 paired with IMA. That car produced close to 300hp.
The question isn't if Honda will produce such a car, but when and will they see the US as a market for a factory hot rod.
The question isn't if Honda will produce such a car, but when and will they see the US as a market for a factory hot rod.
Hey, they're working their tails off with the RDX especially since they JUST released their Halo sedan, the RL.
01-12-2005, 12:03 AM
#49
Originally Posted by DEI99662
By increasing the engine size etc, you are going to increase the price of the RAV4 right outta Entry-Level status.
01-12-2005, 12:17 AM
#50
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
01-12-2005, 12:28 AM
#51
Teh ?
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Age: 45
Posts: 12,784
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
Junkster, who hopes justin's trip was cool
01-12-2005, 07:58 AM
#52
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
01-12-2005, 08:03 AM
#53
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
Cant wait for your report.
01-12-2005, 08:07 AM
#54
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Raleigh, NC
Age: 50
Posts: 4,858
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
01-12-2005, 08:07 AM
#55
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
yes, but only if the TL gets up to 3.5L, 300+ HP.
I believe now that Honda has the technology, the TL should get an optional 3.5L, 300 HP SH-AWD package. However, Acura doesn't give you many options, so maybe making the 300 HP 3.5L + SH-AWD standard would be a way to give the TSX a 3.0L 240-250 HP engine. The RL can get a 3.8-4.0L V6 capable of 330-350 HP. But what many don't see is the beauty of the TSX's k24 (although it is under a lot of load) is that it is fun to play with. Would a TSX with a V6 handle as well with a k24 TSX. Then again, I guess the SH-AWD would help with handling, too. If IMA comes to Acura soon, then there is no need for a 6 in the TSX (not that there is already, it is very competative right now). But, let's just say IMA is NOT an option for some reason, then I can see why the future TSX would need a V6 to stay competative. But the V6 is one reason why the TL is priced higher than the TSX in my opinion. Just my :twocents:
I believe now that Honda has the technology, the TL should get an optional 3.5L, 300 HP SH-AWD package. However, Acura doesn't give you many options, so maybe making the 300 HP 3.5L + SH-AWD standard would be a way to give the TSX a 3.0L 240-250 HP engine. The RL can get a 3.8-4.0L V6 capable of 330-350 HP. But what many don't see is the beauty of the TSX's k24 (although it is under a lot of load) is that it is fun to play with. Would a TSX with a V6 handle as well with a k24 TSX. Then again, I guess the SH-AWD would help with handling, too. If IMA comes to Acura soon, then there is no need for a 6 in the TSX (not that there is already, it is very competative right now). But, let's just say IMA is NOT an option for some reason, then I can see why the future TSX would need a V6 to stay competative. But the V6 is one reason why the TL is priced higher than the TSX in my opinion. Just my :twocents:
The TL will probably be the first car other than the RL to get IMA and SH-AWD. The TSX will probably receive a power boost of some sort and IMA but no SH-AWD.
01-12-2005, 08:09 AM
#56
Suzuka Master
Originally Posted by phile
The RAV4 can already be priced out of entry level status. Our RAV4 had an MSRP of around 26K...and it's not even the L model.
01-12-2005, 08:38 AM
#57
Old fart
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
Can't wait to read all about it!
01-12-2005, 08:48 AM
#58
Pro
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Henderson, NV
Age: 49
Posts: 672
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
Sweet! I look forward to reading what you have to say along with others who have come to appreciate your insight into a company that baffels the mind some times.
01-12-2005, 10:59 AM
#59
Frozen Wannabe Oracle
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Saskatoon
Age: 42
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Got back from Detroit Monday...just got home from a 12 hr work day and I need to get up tomorrow morning at 4:30am...so Im too puked to type out a summary of the past weekends rumors and news. But Thursday I will get on it. TSX, RDX, RSX and more....
I'm excited for the RDX, no question about it. I think Honda has proven that they know how to get SUVs right on the first shot, hopefully this will continue the trend.
I also have in the back of my mind a comment Justin made a long long time ago, "this is not the only version of the TSX we'll see" (or something to that effect).
Here's hoping we'll get a little more insight into what that means.
01-12-2005, 02:10 PM
#60
Pro
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Henderson, NV
Age: 49
Posts: 672
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
Consider me pumped!
I'm excited for the RDX, no question about it. I think Honda has proven that they know how to get SUVs right on the first shot, hopefully this will continue the trend.
I also have in the back of my mind a comment Justin made a long long time ago, "this is not the only version of the TSX we'll see" (or something to that effect).
Here's hoping we'll get a little more insight into what that means.
I'm excited for the RDX, no question about it. I think Honda has proven that they know how to get SUVs right on the first shot, hopefully this will continue the trend.
I also have in the back of my mind a comment Justin made a long long time ago, "this is not the only version of the TSX we'll see" (or something to that effect).
Here's hoping we'll get a little more insight into what that means.
01-12-2005, 03:20 PM
#62
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New York
Age: 54
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Please fill us in on any suspension observations too. I'm wondering if this will be built alongside the Accord and TL if it will have the front double wishbone setup. I think the CRV struts would compromise its ultimate handling capabilities.
01-12-2005, 09:15 PM
#64
Obnoxious Philadelphian
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Jersey
Age: 47
Posts: 5,549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
I also have in the back of my mind a comment Justin made a long long time ago, "this is not the only version of the TSX we'll see" (or something to that effect).
Here's hoping we'll get a little more insight into what that means.
Here's hoping we'll get a little more insight into what that means.
wagon...wagon.. wagon...
prov, join the chant
01-12-2005, 09:29 PM
#65
Somehow I bypassed my company's firewall and are able to log on to the site. Haven't been able to do that the past couple of weeks.
Anyways let me keep the post short and not get into the details you all have already seen or read about.
Some of what was written in the past no longer are valid for the present..such as IMA. Remember when the original RDX concept came out, Acura had stated the powerplant was a 200hp 2.4 liter paired with a 50hp IMA system. Sadly that configuration is no longer the case. Of course it is very diffcult to get people to talk freely about future developments and this was also to be the case. So some of the information may not be 100% correct. You will just have to form your own conclusions.
RSX... indeed may be nearing its end. MY2005 production has already been reduced by almost 25% over MY2003. Word is the RSX will no longer be imported to NA when the current cycle ends. Due to end MY07.
TSX... TSX wagon or coupe is not going to happen anytime soon if at all. Neither will there be any type of IMA system. 6 speed manual may be discontinued in the near future. Due to low demand. In its place possible CVT and SMG type transmissions.
RDX...
New luxury Sedan...
HSC...
Anyways let me keep the post short and not get into the details you all have already seen or read about.
Some of what was written in the past no longer are valid for the present..such as IMA. Remember when the original RDX concept came out, Acura had stated the powerplant was a 200hp 2.4 liter paired with a 50hp IMA system. Sadly that configuration is no longer the case. Of course it is very diffcult to get people to talk freely about future developments and this was also to be the case. So some of the information may not be 100% correct. You will just have to form your own conclusions.
RSX... indeed may be nearing its end. MY2005 production has already been reduced by almost 25% over MY2003. Word is the RSX will no longer be imported to NA when the current cycle ends. Due to end MY07.
TSX... TSX wagon or coupe is not going to happen anytime soon if at all. Neither will there be any type of IMA system. 6 speed manual may be discontinued in the near future. Due to low demand. In its place possible CVT and SMG type transmissions.
RDX...
New luxury Sedan...
HSC...
01-12-2005, 09:46 PM
#67
Forgot I can't edited my own messages...
RDX...will be based on an all new light truck platform also the basis for the new CRV. The RDX will be the same length (181") as the current CRV. The RDX will be to the CRV what the MDX is to the Pliot. Suspension will be double wishbone front and rear. Standard 17" all season tires.
RDX...will be based on an all new light truck platform also the basis for the new CRV. The RDX will be the same length (181") as the current CRV. The RDX will be to the CRV what the MDX is to the Pliot. Suspension will be double wishbone front and rear. Standard 17" all season tires.
01-12-2005, 10:17 PM
#69
101 years of heartache...
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago's North Side/Champaign, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 3,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
no more TSX 6MT, hmm 
. An SMG would be nice, though. CVT is very overrated IMO.
Luxo Barge Sedan??? NSX?!?! Will wait till tomarrow. Good to here from you, Justin.
. An SMG would be nice, though. CVT is very overrated IMO.Luxo Barge Sedan??? NSX?!?! Will wait till tomarrow. Good to here from you, Justin.
01-12-2005, 10:22 PM
#70
Intermediate
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RSX: I'm surprised to hear that Honda is closing in on the RSX. I don't follow much about this vehicle, but it seems to have sold very well in the Toronto's area. I mean, I see them everywhere.
Will they re-design this thing or simply stop making it when the current model expires?
Will they re-design this thing or simply stop making it when the current model expires?
01-12-2005, 10:51 PM
#72
Moderator Alumnus
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Raleigh, NC
Age: 50
Posts: 4,858
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Justin - thanks for the update .... so for all us TSX 6MT drivers ... hang on to that limited edition
I think the HUGE story on the RDX really is gonna be the engine. I think we can all be sure that it will be 5AT only?
So it really boilds down to if Acura is gonna put a juiced K24 or some form of V6 ... gonna be a long wait on that one is my guess. Justin ... need me to wire you some money for a lunch with some of your pals in Torrence? 
I think the HUGE story on the RDX really is gonna be the engine. I think we can all be sure that it will be 5AT only?
So it really boilds down to if Acura is gonna put a juiced K24 or some form of V6 ... gonna be a long wait on that one is my guess. Justin ... need me to wire you some money for a lunch with some of your pals in Torrence?
01-13-2005, 12:43 AM
#73
Frozen Wannabe Oracle
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Saskatoon
Age: 42
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks for the update Justin. It's too bad about the RSX and no IMA in the RDX, but I welcome a new transmission in the TSX. Way to leave us on a cliff hanger with the "new Luxury sedan" and HSC.
My prediction: when the RSX dies, Acura will have the rumoured TL coupe/ 2 seat Roadster ready to go.
My prediction: when the RSX dies, Acura will have the rumoured TL coupe/ 2 seat Roadster ready to go.
01-13-2005, 09:09 AM
#75
Pro
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
TSX... TSX wagon or coupe is not going to happen anytime soon if at all. Neither will there be any type of IMA system. 6 speed manual may be discontinued in the near future. Due to low demand. In its place possible CVT and SMG type transmissions.
01-13-2005, 10:18 AM
#78
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New York
Age: 54
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by justinjsw
Forgot I can't edited my own messages...
RDX...will be based on an all new light truck platform also the basis for the new CRV. The RDX will be the same length (181") as the current CRV. The RDX will be to the CRV what the MDX is to the Pliot. Suspension will be double wishbone front and rear. Standard 17" all season tires.
RDX...will be based on an all new light truck platform also the basis for the new CRV. The RDX will be the same length (181") as the current CRV. The RDX will be to the CRV what the MDX is to the Pliot. Suspension will be double wishbone front and rear. Standard 17" all season tires.
SO...I guess the new light truck platform is a few (5-7") longer since the RDX does not have the exterior spare??
01-13-2005, 10:27 AM
#79
Originally Posted by brutus
I await in anticipation of any new insight that can be spun on the engine for this bad boy....man I hope the Hard Drive stays in production.
B.
B.
01-13-2005, 10:29 AM
#80
Originally Posted by provench
Justin - thanks for the update .... so for all us TSX 6MT drivers ... hang on to that limited edition
I think the HUGE story on the RDX really is gonna be the engine. I think we can all be sure that it will be 5AT only? So it really boilds down to if Acura is gonna put a juiced K24 or some form of V6 ... gonna be a long wait on that one is my guess. Justin ... need me to wire you some money for a lunch with some of your pals in Torrence?
I think the HUGE story on the RDX really is gonna be the engine. I think we can all be sure that it will be 5AT only?
So it really boilds down to if Acura is gonna put a juiced K24 or some form of V6 ... gonna be a long wait on that one is my guess. Justin ... need me to wire you some money for a lunch with some of your pals in Torrence? Pals in Torrance are not worth the lunch money right now.