New 2010/11 NSX *Been Canceled or Maybe NOT?*
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New 2010/11 NSX *Been Canceled or Maybe NOT?*
So I thought it would be cool to have a thread devoted to the new NSX or NSX successor. A place where we could post up all pics that we have and any news bits. Kinda like what we had in the TL forum for the 09s.
Heres what i got
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=773441
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=771297
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769707
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
I for one hope that this ISNT the NSX and is a sub NSX car. Why? Because it gives me more hope that one day I'll be able to afford one. But all the evidence points to this being the NSX so....maybe one day, when I'm old and grey.
Heres what i got
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=773441
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=771297
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769707
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
I for one hope that this ISNT the NSX and is a sub NSX car. Why? Because it gives me more hope that one day I'll be able to afford one. But all the evidence points to this being the NSX so....maybe one day, when I'm old and grey.
08-25-2008, 12:17 AM
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not all of them are down.
these are still there
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
these are still there
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
08-25-2008, 05:20 AM
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not all of them are down.
these are still there
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
these are still there
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=768558
http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=769366
08-25-2008, 08:30 PM
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08-25-2008, 08:38 PM
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But until acura officially names it, everyone is going to be calling it the "nsx"...
12-17-2008, 07:45 AM
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12-17-2008, 08:21 AM
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Trouble for Acura
No more NSX and I doubt the new X6 fighter will make production. The company is focused on the upcomming hybrid honda's and increasing Fit production. I forgot- No diesel engines to the US.
12-17-2008, 08:51 AM
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CEO Takeo Fukui on Wednesday said his company has been forced to cancel the next-generation Acura NSX sports car due to poor economic conditions. The news came during a speech about the automaker’s revised financial forecast. Plans to bring the Acura brand to Japan have also been shelved permanently, the Nikkei news service has reported.
“The situation is worsening by the day, and there is no prospect for recovery, is our understanding,” Fukui told reporters.
The NSX was a much-anticipated V10-powered sports car in the late stages of development. Designed as a successor to the original model of the same name, the new NSX was slated to be launched as a 2010 model. The project was subject to multiple delays related to the vehicle’s exterior design, but those problems were recently overcome.
Fukui previously characterized the new NSX as “necessary for Honda.”
The company indicated its operating profits will be 180 billion yen ($2 billion), down 67 percent from the forecasted 550 billion yen. There’s even a chance, according to Reuters, the automaker will report a half-year operating loss — for the latter part of 2008. If that happens, it will be the the first time in at least 11 years. Also hurting the income forecast is the yen’s strength against the U.S. dollar, which further compounds the U.S. sales problem.
The debut of the Acura brand — originally U.S.-only — in Japan was originally planned for late 2008, but was recently delayed until 2010. Given the economic downturn, Honda said it decided to cancel the costly program all together.
Honda also announced it will cut production by 314,000 vehicles worldwide for the current fiscal year, according to Bloomberg. It also will eliminate about 1,200 temporary jobs in Japan
“The situation is worsening by the day, and there is no prospect for recovery, is our understanding,” Fukui told reporters.
The NSX was a much-anticipated V10-powered sports car in the late stages of development. Designed as a successor to the original model of the same name, the new NSX was slated to be launched as a 2010 model. The project was subject to multiple delays related to the vehicle’s exterior design, but those problems were recently overcome.
Fukui previously characterized the new NSX as “necessary for Honda.”
The company indicated its operating profits will be 180 billion yen ($2 billion), down 67 percent from the forecasted 550 billion yen. There’s even a chance, according to Reuters, the automaker will report a half-year operating loss — for the latter part of 2008. If that happens, it will be the the first time in at least 11 years. Also hurting the income forecast is the yen’s strength against the U.S. dollar, which further compounds the U.S. sales problem.
The debut of the Acura brand — originally U.S.-only — in Japan was originally planned for late 2008, but was recently delayed until 2010. Given the economic downturn, Honda said it decided to cancel the costly program all together.
Honda also announced it will cut production by 314,000 vehicles worldwide for the current fiscal year, according to Bloomberg. It also will eliminate about 1,200 temporary jobs in Japan
12-17-2008, 06:18 PM
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I ponder if it was far enough along that Acura could still use some it so that it was not a total waste of time/resources. Maybe they can tone it down into a new CL?
12-18-2008, 12:12 AM
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From the first nurburgring spy videos, when there was speculation that it wasnt the NSX i kept my fingers crossed that it was a CL.
12-23-2008, 09:36 PM
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I'm good with the decision. As a NSX replacement, it wasn't. More like a GTR competitive product.
This gives today's NSX the abilty to become RARE CLASSICS in the future. They already have limited quantities, and are unique enough that once the economy does turn and there is money available again for expensive toys, the few NSXs left will be desirable and have good value.
This gives today's NSX the abilty to become RARE CLASSICS in the future. They already have limited quantities, and are unique enough that once the economy does turn and there is money available again for expensive toys, the few NSXs left will be desirable and have good value.
12-31-2008, 12:32 AM
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Not Cancelled
Posted: December 30th, 2008
It was recently reported by AutoExpress that Honda has shelved plans to build the Acura/Honda NSX supercar. Honda made no comment on the report that said Honda pulled the plug on the 600-hp supercar due to the economic slowdown.
Well, Autotelegraaf is now saying that Honda will bring the final NSX concept to the 2009 Detroit Auto Show next month. The report says that the concept will be very close to the final production version which will make its debut at the end of 2009 in Tokyo and 2010 in Europe.
The news comes a couple days after Toyota announced that it will still bring the Lexus LF-A to the market by 2011 despite the current economic situation.
12-31-2008, 01:57 PM
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UPDATE: One of the TOV's Dutch readers has now chimed in after reading the AutoTeleGraaf and says that what the AutoTeleGraaf article REALLY says is that Acura WAS planning on showing the NSX Concept in Detroit, but since the NSX development was cancelled, they will no longer be showing the Concept. Maybe somebody from Acura can clear this up once and for all. This is why we only gave the rumor a "1" on the credibility score. We would have given it a "0" but we don't have that in our system (maybe we should add it).
02-02-2009, 01:44 PM
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Acura Forges Ahead w/ Teir 1 Plans; NSX Could be Revived
Posted Today, 10:43 AM by Alex Kaufmann
The new Acura front-end design language has been polarizing
Posted Today, 10:43 AM by Alex Kaufmann
The new Acura front-end design language has been polarizing
Apart from Lexus, Japanese luxury brands still pale in comparison to their German rivals in terms of the number of models they produce and the prices they can command. Overall image in the marketplace and status on the street have likewise proven difficult to develop. That's why Acura is making a hard push specifically to boost its image and achieve 'tier 1' luxury carmaker status.
The Acura plan for becoming top-tier doesn't focus on the cars, however. "Being a premium luxury brand is not just about product. It's the way dealers handle customers. You've got to earn your way into the segment. You don't necessarily have to have a $90,000 sedan to get there," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co. in an interview with Automotive News.
But that doesn't mean that new, better cars aren't part of the plan. In fact, the door remains open on whether the NSX will eventually see production. The car's development is "mostly done" according to Colliver, and that means it would be a quick move to market if given the green light. The reasoning behind dropping the NSX plan in the first place was largely centered around the weak economy and Honda's plans to cut costs. If the market turns around, there's no reason not to bring the NSX out of mothballs.
More every-day cars will be part of the brand push as well. Acura previously announced its intent to move toward tier 1 status at a dealer conference last year, and has since been working toward that with its new model run. The first of these new models include the RL and TSX sedans, plus the new - though oft-maligned - 2009 TL.
If Acura is really serious about competing with brands like BMW and Mercedes it will also likely need to more premium options such as RWD powertrains and high-output engines - both of which make a strong argument for revival of the NSX program.
The next model likely to come from Acura won't be a RWD sedan or a next-gen supercar, however. Instead, it is likely to be a mid-sized crossover, fitting between the current RDX (read our review here) and MDX.
02-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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Link
^^^^ Link please.
Edit: never mind. Here it is
http://www.motorauthority.com/acura-...ry-brands.html
Edit: never mind. Here it is
http://www.motorauthority.com/acura-...ry-brands.html
I hope that they do bring out the NSX & not scrap the thing entirely.
02-02-2009, 02:14 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out. Thought there might be more from to the story. Looks like you cut and pasted all of it anyway.
I'd like to think it's true also, although I think the rumored price point I've been hearing ($150+) is a bad decision. Maybe they will rethink that aspect of it and resurect the car in a few years when the recession runs it's course.
I'd like to think it's true also, although I think the rumored price point I've been hearing ($150+) is a bad decision. Maybe they will rethink that aspect of it and resurect the car in a few years when the recession runs it's course.
03-23-2009, 06:58 PM
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yes, but if honda is competing with the german supercars, then a 150K price wouldnt be too far fetched.
lambos and ferraris and porsches are all in that price range, if not higher.
but the GTR reaches the 90K mark ands its a 480HP semi-supercar. the NSX would be a true supercar with 600HP.
lambos and ferraris and porsches are all in that price range, if not higher.
but the GTR reaches the 90K mark ands its a 480HP semi-supercar. the NSX would be a true supercar with 600HP.
11-16-2009, 11:23 AM
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I posted this in the auto news section but thought that I would post it here as well to keep this forum updated some since it is not that busy.
My $.02: hopefully the Super GT people will change their mind & thus force Acura's hand in releasing the car to the public.
With the last race of this year’s Super GT already over and done with, fans of Honda have been left wondering what will replace the current NSX GT car for next season.
Due to new Super GT regulations forcing the use of FR cars for the 2010 season, fans of the mid-engine Honda saw the last race of their venerate NSX earlier this month at Twin Ring Motegi Circuit here in Japan. With it’s first debut back in 1997 at the then All Japan GTC (followed by the JGTC and now Super GT), the NSX has had an illustrious career, claiming 49 poles with 36 race wins from 105 starts. With all this, Honda and the NSX teams have obviously attracted a multitude of fans and supporters over the last 13 years. But now, with rule changes forcing the end of the NSX’s career, Honda has announced that it will continue it’s participation in the Super GT. With an FR S2000 you say? Well no, actually with none other than it’s shelved FR Super Sports V10.
The shelved project, which had to be put on permanent hold along with Honda’s F1 involvement due to the economic crisis, will find new life and will be used as the base for the GT car in season 2010.
But surely it’s not possible!? While at first the idea may seem a little far fetched it all makes good sense. Before being given the axe, the FR V10 was under going development and work on a Super GT variant was already in place. It’s release was to coincide with the release of the road going version into the market. Times have changed though and whilst the race version of the car will be released next year, its road friendly counterpart will not. Honda will use special permission from the organizers of Super GT to allow this to happen and let the car compete in the GT 500. This will also let Honda off the homologation hook, meaning no limited run of V10s will have to be made or sold unlike the unicorn like NSX-R GT. (More photos below)
While details at this point in time are still sketchy, Honda will be releasing more details shortly and we await what FR goodness will be in store for us come 2010.
My $.02: hopefully the Super GT people will change their mind & thus force Acura's hand in releasing the car to the public.
With the last race of this year’s Super GT already over and done with, fans of Honda have been left wondering what will replace the current NSX GT car for next season.
Due to new Super GT regulations forcing the use of FR cars for the 2010 season, fans of the mid-engine Honda saw the last race of their venerate NSX earlier this month at Twin Ring Motegi Circuit here in Japan. With it’s first debut back in 1997 at the then All Japan GTC (followed by the JGTC and now Super GT), the NSX has had an illustrious career, claiming 49 poles with 36 race wins from 105 starts. With all this, Honda and the NSX teams have obviously attracted a multitude of fans and supporters over the last 13 years. But now, with rule changes forcing the end of the NSX’s career, Honda has announced that it will continue it’s participation in the Super GT. With an FR S2000 you say? Well no, actually with none other than it’s shelved FR Super Sports V10.
The shelved project, which had to be put on permanent hold along with Honda’s F1 involvement due to the economic crisis, will find new life and will be used as the base for the GT car in season 2010.
But surely it’s not possible!? While at first the idea may seem a little far fetched it all makes good sense. Before being given the axe, the FR V10 was under going development and work on a Super GT variant was already in place. It’s release was to coincide with the release of the road going version into the market. Times have changed though and whilst the race version of the car will be released next year, its road friendly counterpart will not. Honda will use special permission from the organizers of Super GT to allow this to happen and let the car compete in the GT 500. This will also let Honda off the homologation hook, meaning no limited run of V10s will have to be made or sold unlike the unicorn like NSX-R GT. (More photos below)
While details at this point in time are still sketchy, Honda will be releasing more details shortly and we await what FR goodness will be in store for us come 2010.
11-17-2009, 08:14 AM
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Two important things:
1.) There will be no new NSX, as Honda has pretty much folded in their tent on the 'fun cars', grabbed their ball, and went home. They may as well be making televisions now.
2.) Just like many other companies in the world, they are using the 'economy' as the scape goat to get them out of having to do something they are not sure they wanted to do in the first place. Honda has been taunting a 'new NSX' in front of owners since I went to NSXPO back in 1997 saying it was going to be out in 'a few years'. Guess what, there was plenty of rocking economy then, and they still failed to produce a new NSX.
I am a huge fan of the Honda cars made during the late 1980's, all the way up to the S2000 in the year 2000 (when Honda was already well on their way to the downward spiral by eliminating cars that were actually fun to drive). Ever since then they may as well be re-naming themselves 'Green Peace' because they only seem to care about fuel economy, and do not care how boring their cars are. Guess what Honda, Toyota already mastered that game, maybe you should try the fun to drive and fuel efficient thing again and leave boring to the people that have it mastered. Your public here is waiting for something that puts a smile on your face when you turn the key.
Signed,
Guy who has owned (3) NSXs, (2) S2000s, and more Legend Coupes than most dealerships.
1.) There will be no new NSX, as Honda has pretty much folded in their tent on the 'fun cars', grabbed their ball, and went home. They may as well be making televisions now.
2.) Just like many other companies in the world, they are using the 'economy' as the scape goat to get them out of having to do something they are not sure they wanted to do in the first place. Honda has been taunting a 'new NSX' in front of owners since I went to NSXPO back in 1997 saying it was going to be out in 'a few years'. Guess what, there was plenty of rocking economy then, and they still failed to produce a new NSX.
I am a huge fan of the Honda cars made during the late 1980's, all the way up to the S2000 in the year 2000 (when Honda was already well on their way to the downward spiral by eliminating cars that were actually fun to drive). Ever since then they may as well be re-naming themselves 'Green Peace' because they only seem to care about fuel economy, and do not care how boring their cars are. Guess what Honda, Toyota already mastered that game, maybe you should try the fun to drive and fuel efficient thing again and leave boring to the people that have it mastered. Your public here is waiting for something that puts a smile on your face when you turn the key.
Signed,
Guy who has owned (3) NSXs, (2) S2000s, and more Legend Coupes than most dealerships.
12-13-2009, 01:30 PM
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We knew it was coming and now we've got details. According to the latest reports out of Japan, the Honda NSX will live on, but mere mortals will never get a shot behind the wheel.
As previously reported, Honda has been actively petitioning the Japanese Automobile Federation (JAF) -- the organizing entity behind Japan's Super GT series -- to run a new front-engine racer in the touring car championship. A cursory reading of the rule book states that vehicles campaigning in SuperGT must be production vehicles (think GT-R, MR2, SC430). However, Honda's found a loop-hole.
Just as Toyota has done in recent years with the Supra (it's out of production), the Super GT rules specify that a vehicle's specs and design must be submitted to JAF to be approved. That means that a vehicle can be "production ready," if not actually in production. So for the 2010 SuperGT season, Honda will bring out an all-new race car based on the NSX prototype (seen above), reportedly packing a 3.4-liter V8.
So... Lawyers: 1. NSX's lovers: 0. But at least we get to see it race...
As previously reported, Honda has been actively petitioning the Japanese Automobile Federation (JAF) -- the organizing entity behind Japan's Super GT series -- to run a new front-engine racer in the touring car championship. A cursory reading of the rule book states that vehicles campaigning in SuperGT must be production vehicles (think GT-R, MR2, SC430). However, Honda's found a loop-hole.
Just as Toyota has done in recent years with the Supra (it's out of production), the Super GT rules specify that a vehicle's specs and design must be submitted to JAF to be approved. That means that a vehicle can be "production ready," if not actually in production. So for the 2010 SuperGT season, Honda will bring out an all-new race car based on the NSX prototype (seen above), reportedly packing a 3.4-liter V8.
So... Lawyers: 1. NSX's lovers: 0. But at least we get to see it race...
12-15-2009, 08:39 PM
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New NSX Rendering
This is the first image of Honda’s NSX racer that has been released.
While it is true that Honda’s flagship sports car is being seriously considered for production, it’s possible that it is preparing a race version codenamed HSV-010. This vehicle is slated to participate in next year’s Japan Super GT Series.
Also, it is possible that it will have the same front engine, rear drive layout as the road version, but it will most likely not use 4WD. According to a Honda insider, when the announced that it was canceling the NSX project in late 2008, an R&D team was actually testing the car at Suzuka Circuit.
While it is true that Honda’s flagship sports car is being seriously considered for production, it’s possible that it is preparing a race version codenamed HSV-010. This vehicle is slated to participate in next year’s Japan Super GT Series.
Also, it is possible that it will have the same front engine, rear drive layout as the road version, but it will most likely not use 4WD. According to a Honda insider, when the announced that it was canceling the NSX project in late 2008, an R&D team was actually testing the car at Suzuka Circuit.
12-17-2009, 10:08 AM
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Plans are moving forward for Honda to reveal its new V8 racing car in Japan, the HSV 010.
While the programme hasn’t been fully buttoned down yet, as we hear it, this new car – loosely based on Honda’s axed 'next NSX' project – is tipped to appear in January but will definitely be for track only.
Honda put a lot of time and work into developing a new front-engined V10 super-coupe, to go head to head with the Lexus LFA.
The car was seen testing and was close to being signed off when Honda pulled the plug in winter 2008 as the economic crisis hit, around the same time Honda announced it was quitting Formula One.
Sources say Honda’s plan was to launch the new V10 super-coupe as the Acura Sports, its launch timed to coincide with the debut of Acura, Honda’s luxury dealer channel, in Japan.
In the end, both projects got canned, but not before Honda put quite a bit of work into developing a separate, pure race version of the Acura Sports for Super GT, Japan’s hugely popular tintop race series.
The Super GT version of the Acura Sports would carry the road car’s silhouette but underneath it would be totally different, with an all-new carbonfibre chassis and swapping the road car’s 5.0-litre V10 – good for 500bhp plus – for a race-bred 3.4-litre V8 to meet the new Super GT regs.
Those regs would also see the road car’s high-performance, rear-biased Super Handling 4WD system exchanged for a simpler, more robust rear drive layout, again to meet Super GT regs.
Honda will build a limited run of race cars to meet the requirements of the Super GT teams and the 3.4-litre V8 will come across from Japan’s Formula Nippon single-seater series.
It’s a 90-degree V8 with 3400cc capacity, rev-limited to 10,300rpm and good for 600bhp plus. For Super GT duty, the engine will have to be significantly reworked for a more endurance spec. Super GT races are longer and harder than Formula Nippon and each engine also has to last for four races.
The V8 engine will also be air-restricted to 500bhp to meet the regs in Super GT’s top GT500 class, but will lose the rev limiter.
Honda, it’s believed, is keen to present the HSV 010 as an all-new car, and an unveiling seems likely in Japan before the end of January.
While the programme hasn’t been fully buttoned down yet, as we hear it, this new car – loosely based on Honda’s axed 'next NSX' project – is tipped to appear in January but will definitely be for track only.
Honda put a lot of time and work into developing a new front-engined V10 super-coupe, to go head to head with the Lexus LFA.
The car was seen testing and was close to being signed off when Honda pulled the plug in winter 2008 as the economic crisis hit, around the same time Honda announced it was quitting Formula One.
Sources say Honda’s plan was to launch the new V10 super-coupe as the Acura Sports, its launch timed to coincide with the debut of Acura, Honda’s luxury dealer channel, in Japan.
In the end, both projects got canned, but not before Honda put quite a bit of work into developing a separate, pure race version of the Acura Sports for Super GT, Japan’s hugely popular tintop race series.
The Super GT version of the Acura Sports would carry the road car’s silhouette but underneath it would be totally different, with an all-new carbonfibre chassis and swapping the road car’s 5.0-litre V10 – good for 500bhp plus – for a race-bred 3.4-litre V8 to meet the new Super GT regs.
Those regs would also see the road car’s high-performance, rear-biased Super Handling 4WD system exchanged for a simpler, more robust rear drive layout, again to meet Super GT regs.
Honda will build a limited run of race cars to meet the requirements of the Super GT teams and the 3.4-litre V8 will come across from Japan’s Formula Nippon single-seater series.
It’s a 90-degree V8 with 3400cc capacity, rev-limited to 10,300rpm and good for 600bhp plus. For Super GT duty, the engine will have to be significantly reworked for a more endurance spec. Super GT races are longer and harder than Formula Nippon and each engine also has to last for four races.
The V8 engine will also be air-restricted to 500bhp to meet the regs in Super GT’s top GT500 class, but will lose the rev limiter.
Honda, it’s believed, is keen to present the HSV 010 as an all-new car, and an unveiling seems likely in Japan before the end of January.