732xghost

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some of you may know this, some of you may not have known about how many of these brands are made with crappy specs, and many may have no clue that most suspension companies are made in the same factory in Taiwan by the company Bor-chuann (BC for short and not to be confused with Buddy Club)

http://www.bcec.com.tw/products/products.html

now what made me want to share this with you guys is because a person who posts on several automotive forums made a list on Honda-Tech. In that list my Tanabe Pro S-OC coilovers were mentioned. I quickly got on the defensive because i did my research before my purchase. Tanabe make their suspension products in Japan and teamed up with KYB for their dampers.

Here is a decent list I found of where certain companies make their suspensions. Tanabe are still listed which is misinformation, but for the most part the list is dead on. Im still researching where APEXi and GReddy make theirs. Function & Form and Blackworks should be listed on that list too for Taiwan.

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/suspe...de-thread.html

i was going to post this in the suspension section but figured it would get more views in the main section. just wanted to spread awareness of where these brands are made. Bor-chuann are not a quality brand and make a horrible Showa replica. All these colorful brands we think are different are essentially the same coilover built with different spring rates and to horrible specs.

I have been researching this topic for weeks and have seen some nasty things happen as a result of these poorly made coilovers. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from a buying certain brand suspension because i understand people are on a budget dont wanna spend $1200 on a set of KW coilovers. My point is to just spread some knowledge on the matter.

questions, concerns, or comments?

732xghost

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i thought this would have been an interesting topic. i guess not....

spencer_homer

dude anyone with a brain on here doenst exist. good info. surprised me. Ill pass it on

732xghost

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yeah this site is really dead. but i still thought some people would have interest in something suspension related.

97BlackAckCL

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Thanks for posting this Matt, I will look to add this to our other suspension info pages. We don't get as much traffic these days, takes people a while to find this stuff

732xghost

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any time. hopefully more chime in with more comments and questions.

Myxomatosis

and I'm glad I have Neuspeed springs... ... Fahrvergnügen Mutter F%^&ers

btw, if you're going to buy Chinese, Tiawan makes better stuff in general. They have higher quality and work standards.

asianspec

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Thus why i stick with Teins. Good info. will pass it along.

rockstar143

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Tein all day...thanks for the info

732xghost

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Well not these various coilovers. Their structual integrity sucks and sometimes the spring rates are out of wack. I've seen plenty of these coilovers break in my weeks of researching all this stuff.

asianspec

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waiting for Cocoa's

97BlackAckCL

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Love my teins

732xghost

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haha yeah i forgot about him. what coilovers was he running?

asianspec

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90% sure he's on Megans.

97BlackAckCL

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I could have sworn he was on tenzo's or buddy club

732xghost

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IIRC it may have been Megan's.

Buddy Club (made in Korea, not Japan) dont make coilovers for the Accord chassis.

97BlackAckCL

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I texted him and asked, I honestly can't remember

97BlackAckCL

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You guys are right, he was on Megans with custom valving

asianspec

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Him and his buddy Mauricio rave about Megans, thus why i believed he was on them. lol

Myxomatosis

It's not my fault you guys like coil overs.

97BlackAckCL

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97BlackAckCL

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Coilovers > u

asianspec

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SupraManAG

Good info Matt. Sorry not a lot of action going around lately..

SleeperishCL

I've got a real good shop I am going to, they are all about Teins! Thanks for the alert!

Germ

Yeah I'm kinda one of those who don't know very much about the outside of my car. But since the car is getting older I find my self having to worry about engine stuff and what not so I try to do as much research as I can before I say anything about that topic. As far as my suspension, I was planning on getting function & forms. Looks like ill be looking into some teins. Good thing I waited.

732xghost

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I'm not trying to say if you buy these Taiwanese made coilovers they're going to instantly fall apart (even though the BNIB F2's i sold to Paco99CL had issues right out of the box) but many of these brand coilovers have problems.

Not saying Tein is perfect either.

So far im very happy with my Tanabe's. Japanese made and were very affordable.

asianspec

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When you do replace your coils, you should also changing out the bushings as well.

732xghost

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haha i was like what bushings? then i realize you guys have the pesky lower control arm bushings to deal with me.

not me!

Germ

that was the plan. im actually having a homie do it for me while im in vegas. this dude a lot like yall in a sense that he know way more than i do hahahah.

i want to sit as low as possible but my worried that ill mess up justin's lip kit. lucky thing where i stay there arent a lot of really high speed bumbs or drive ways. i guess ill be parking on the street when i get the car back....hahhaa...

DaInFaMMuS1

Wow, didn't know alot of this info. Glad that you posted this, I'm gonna just stick with Teins for redoing the CL suspension.

732xghost

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i would go KW if i had the money, but thats me.

Exploding Panda

In that thread on 8thcivic, it says that Tanabe is the same as Trust(greddy). Where are these people getting their info? Couldn't be more wrong.

starboy2nv

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You gotta be kidding me right? My Tanabes are/were GREAT. I was/am going to replace with Form & Function.

Whats KW?

Cocoa

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Indeed. Teins aren't even popular on the track because of their inferior sizing in the pistons and valving. And don't even bring up the Tein Flex, for the price there are always better options as the Teins are found to be useful only in their lowest (firmest)setting out of the 16 levels of adjustment because the damping is too soft for the spring rates.

97CL_NC1102

if i had the money id go bags cause normally the more you wrench and the more you try to adjust the more things get complicated and screwed up lol...on a side note i liked my FnF's

732xghost

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the kid that posted that info on 8th gen isn't right about all of those companies but is for the majority.

i like mine so far. Why don't you just get a new set? stick with what worked.

KW are a reputable suspension company from Germany.

DaInFaMMuS1

They make a line for the 94-97 accord? I'm fond of German products lol.

732xghost

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yeah im sure they do.