Increasing HP on a budget.
10-09-2008, 05:08 PM
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Increasing HP on a budget.
Ever since i got my CAI i have wanted to get something else to help increase horsepower, but im only 16 and i dont have much money. ive saved up about 450$ and was wondering what you would do with around that much money.
10-09-2008, 08:27 PM
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Being 16 hooking up a car really isn't worth much, but if you want cheap mods look here https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-cl-1997-1999-56/%2A%2A%2Anoob-guide-read-first-before-posting%2A%2A%2A-478508/
normal bolt ons would be, ebay intake with k&n filter, headers, exhaust, underdrive pulley, new spark plugs, the list goes on
10-10-2008, 12:45 AM
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if thats the car he has thats the car he has. not like he can go out and buy a new one.
bro if your car is a 3.0 then there isnt much you can do with it (unless your cocoa and your some sort of mad scientist with tons of money
..cocoa you DO have a 3.0 yeah?) unless you do nitrous or custom turbo your pretty much stuck with headers, intake, pully, exhaust.
shouldnt have settled with the auto. haha. next time tell yer parents to get you something stick
bro if your car is a 3.0 then there isnt much you can do with it (unless your cocoa and your some sort of mad scientist with tons of money
..cocoa you DO have a 3.0 yeah?) unless you do nitrous or custom turbo your pretty much stuck with headers, intake, pully, exhaust. shouldnt have settled with the auto. haha. next time tell yer parents to get you something stick
10-10-2008, 01:55 AM
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I finally found an old post I was looking for. I spent 2 hours looking for it, even though I could have rewritten it in minutes. But it's the principle! I just wanted to see if I could dig up old info of mine if I were someone else. Anyways, here's an old statement of mine.
"The odyssey, mdx, CLS, and 3.0 CL all share the EXACT short block. They ALL share the same casting, BUT different internally for some. The CLS and MDX have cylinder walls that can withstand more heat at higher rpms (depending on what year MDX, but falls true for every CLS), and the Odyssey is a 3.5 simply because it's stroked.
So you can take out your 3.0 short block, throw in the Odyssey short block from the years 00-02, and you will now be the next 3.5L first gen for under $1000 (assuming you get the short block for $350 and labor to have someone else do it run about $600). Also, make sure you use the crank positioning sensor for the 3.0. I'm know some are the same for some years and what not, but dont risk your engine if you decide to do this without the extra research. I can help anyone that wants to do it, if you just let me know in advance. I'd explain what can go wrong if you were to have the wrong sensor, but I dont want to type it. Easiest way to say it, it'd read the crank revolutions wrong which would cause a whole lot of shit to go wrong, and then boom.
All sensors from your 3.0 you just throw on the new short block.
You will find the Odyssey block cheaper than the mdx block.
If I were anyone else that would be willing to spend a $1000 (est.) to stroke their CL, I would buy CLS pistons for $200 brand new for all 6, and what ever the price be for new pistons rings and what not, to raise the CR to 10.8:1 to get a lil more power out of it."
Although replacing pistons will run you more.
Replace the short block. You'll get a lot more low end torque, and some extra power out of it. It'll look stock. And I'm sure you'll have some fun.
"The odyssey, mdx, CLS, and 3.0 CL all share the EXACT short block. They ALL share the same casting, BUT different internally for some. The CLS and MDX have cylinder walls that can withstand more heat at higher rpms (depending on what year MDX, but falls true for every CLS), and the Odyssey is a 3.5 simply because it's stroked.
So you can take out your 3.0 short block, throw in the Odyssey short block from the years 00-02, and you will now be the next 3.5L first gen for under $1000 (assuming you get the short block for $350 and labor to have someone else do it run about $600). Also, make sure you use the crank positioning sensor for the 3.0. I'm know some are the same for some years and what not, but dont risk your engine if you decide to do this without the extra research. I can help anyone that wants to do it, if you just let me know in advance. I'd explain what can go wrong if you were to have the wrong sensor, but I dont want to type it. Easiest way to say it, it'd read the crank revolutions wrong which would cause a whole lot of shit to go wrong, and then boom.
All sensors from your 3.0 you just throw on the new short block.
You will find the Odyssey block cheaper than the mdx block.
If I were anyone else that would be willing to spend a $1000 (est.) to stroke their CL, I would buy CLS pistons for $200 brand new for all 6, and what ever the price be for new pistons rings and what not, to raise the CR to 10.8:1 to get a lil more power out of it."
Although replacing pistons will run you more.
Replace the short block. You'll get a lot more low end torque, and some extra power out of it. It'll look stock. And I'm sure you'll have some fun.
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10-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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The 3.0 CL rocks. Suction, tension, compression and vibration are no substitute for displacement. Braaaapwheeee...... As a side note Blind_Shooter who belongs to those legs? OMG!!!!!
10-11-2008, 11:51 AM
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ya my car is a 97 3.0 v6 sorry i havent had my computer in days but im savin up for headers new exhaust and possibly Nitrous. Also my tranny seems to be in great condition me or my dad havent noticed anything the car runs like new, but how risky would Nitrous be?
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Don't put nitrous in your car, just do bolt ons like exhaust
10-11-2008, 01:04 PM
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i was kidding about the nitrous, i thought the harry joke would give it away. i should put things in red like a good noobie
10-11-2008, 06:47 PM
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10-12-2008, 12:50 AM
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today i replace my ebay filter with a k&n and i noticed a huge difference in sound. ive decided im gonna get an exhaust kit first so i was wondering what you guys would recommend.
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Headers and custom catback
10-12-2008, 08:22 PM
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is there any decent catbacks around 500$, that Buddy Club Pro Spec II is too loud for me. or could i just buy piping and buy a magnaflow muffler. and if not how much will a custom catback run me.
10-12-2008, 08:35 PM
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i saw the apexi on ebay and im considering it. but would something like using the piping from this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...mZ180293040286
and adding a new muffler and headers be just as good or is there a quality difference.
and adding a new muffler and headers be just as good or is there a quality difference.
10-12-2008, 09:59 PM
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^^probably sound good but dont know how long it will last but why put one exhaust can on instead of the other, I dont see how it makes a difference other than looks, but i can def tell you get quality headers or youll have issues and dont bother with the muffler just get a cat back
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i saw the apexi on ebay and im considering it. but would something like using the piping from this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-95...mZ180293040286
and adding a new muffler and headers be just as good or is there a quality difference.
and adding a new muffler and headers be just as good or is there a quality difference.
10-13-2008, 03:28 PM
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so for right now i think im just gonna get headers until i can get my friends dad to do a custom exhaust, i saw these on ebay for 200$ and im assuming they arent very good quality and also i saw in the header DIY you have to bend the pipe, if i get ones made for the CL instead of the accord will i still need to bend it.
10-13-2008, 07:45 PM
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My friends dad does alot of work on cars he just made a custom exhaust for his new GTO so im gonna talk to him and see how much it would cost for him to make one for the CL.
10-14-2008, 12:15 PM
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Where are you located? I got my catback done for 350$ here in sac, cali. They provided all the materials also, just dropped my car off and picked it up an hour later.