gr8dale72

I drove through some water thursday night because of our shi*tty drainage here and my car killed. I figured it was just because of the CAI i have, so me and 2 friends pushed it to a burger king and tried to start it again. It made a wierd noise and wouldnt start. Today while changing my oil pan there were pieces of my engine laying in it. I think i may have blown a piston or something

spencer_homer

hydrolocked. engine done.

GhettoNinja06

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hydrolocked.

I don't know why people insist on CAIs on their daily drivers... To each their own I guess but this happens more often than it should. Should have just gotten a SRI and would have saved you 4k...

Gnate

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Ouch, engine

Dicorp

h22 swap time.

switchfootvz

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sry... dude... hope it works out for u!!

97BlackAckCL

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Sorry to hear CL

mitch14

that's one of the reasons why i don't like CAI's

Anhedonia

if your gonna run a CAI might as well use a splash guard as well..

woodek

Doesnt anyone install an in line, air bypass valve (AEM pn 20-402S) in case this happens?

Maybe it reduces Air intake a little?

incredulous1

Anhedonia

a simple intake sponge would have solved it as well

97BlackAckCL

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I tell everyone on here to get one, it's worth the piece of mind, saved my ass in a hurricane flood

incredulous1

yeah, i got one for my CAI and it saved my engine driving through a flood.

but i decided i liked SRI better

MoSp33d

honestly CAI is awesome...i like SRI better but gettin a 50 dollar worth bypass valve wouldnt kill u or anyone...its basically like insurance for ur engine and intake...now tht u have gone thru hydrolocking its gona cost u...sorry bro...

BigLizard

I had a CAI on my 2nd gen CL and I never drove through massive puddles (Granted my car was pretty low too). OP shouldn't have drove through it to begin with. I would have parked my car in front of the puddle.

An SRI is a waste of money. Sucking up hot engine air = for your engine.

GhettoNinja06

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It's not about the temperature of the air, It's about airflow imo. It's not like a SRI makes the engine hotter than stock. Maybe a little warmer than CAI but I can't see any gains with the little temperature difference. Especialy at speed.

gr8dale72

man it blows not having a car, i was at ma girls house tonight and had to leave at 11 wTf. so i shouldnt worry about driving it anytime soon?

MoSp33d

sorry but no...unless u got the moola to replace the engine then yes it should be runnin depending on when u wana fix it.

MoSp33d

if i was u i would jus getta h22...PM Chris (DaInfamous1) he'll guide u thru, if ur're interested

spencer_homer

:gheylaugh

less heat= more power.

BigLizard

Enlighten me where your opinion is true.

I was born at night...but not last night.

Temp of the air and airflow play huge factors into getting high numbers from just an intake.

Read this http://www.modsearch.com/articles/cold_air_intake.html

^^^That will get you started on what you should know about how a cold air intake works.

After all the research I accomplished before I installed an intake on my old car, I found out that a CAI does put down better numbers every time for N/A cars (Didn't look too much into turbocharging or supercharging). I honestly don't see the point of an SRI unless it's the only thing a person can afford.

incredulous1

when moving, both temperatures of CAI and SRI are so close, it barely makes a difference whether you gain that 1 extra hp or not. its not even WHP....

Anhedonia

his statement is true about vehicles at speed. especially ones with direct air input to the intake. plus, a heat shield on an sri solves the majority of the problem

sam o nela

x1,000,000...

Here's a very unscientific thing that I did with CAI vs SRI air temperatures:

http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulleti...proach-111287/

GhettoNinja06

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I see your view on CAIs but if you don't want to run the risk of hydrolocking your engine (sure there are bypass valves but i've heard it can still happen) an SRI is still better than stock intake. Better airflow gives you more power and quicker throttle response. There is a HUGE difference in trottle response with an SRI vs stock.

True, but maybe -1 or -2 hp...

That's what I'm saying. Sure CAIs run slightly cooler than SRIs but like I said, when at speed, there is little difference. Plus you don't have to worry about getting hydrolocked...

97BlackAckCL

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SRI's are a waste, but let's keep this debate about the guy's hydrolocked engine please

Dicorp

he just showed you the difference is almost 30 F. thats not little.

and butt dyno ftl.

Josh99CL

Know a website to hunt around on for splash guards for CAIs?

Edit: Are you talking about wheel splash guards or an actual guard attached to the CAI?

Eband27

im sorry, but for the little power an air intake actually gives to f22's, i don't see the point of getting a CAI with a bypass valve and pay more.

spencer_homer

sorry but i definatley disagree. 30 degrees of temp can make all the difference in the world. Drag racing has a lot to do with track conditions. which is the Weather (Tempature)

and considering your only gonna gain 7-10 HP with an intake. that 1-2 HP difference could be 20% of your gains earned from the intake. would you buy a cheap turbo kit if your only gonna get 80% of the hp gain you would get with a nice kit?

oh and that 1-2 HP can decide win or lose.

SRI-CAI= Big difference.

unfortuantely i live in seattle, and ive got almost no fender lining left so i rock a SRI in winter. but its really a Cai with one of the pipes turned around. instead of going down, it just bends forward and stays. summer=CAI

convertability for the win.

GhettoNinja06

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^I would go on but...

Dicorp

what's there to debate? engine is done, he found what i'm sure are bearings in his oil pan.

OP. swap the motor, let us know how it went.

spencer_homer

yeah i wish you could

so i could prove you wrong

haha im just messin. i just read your statement that hot air or cold air it doesnt make a difference and i think you should learn that its untrue. its a known fact that colder air going to the engine makes more power than hot air. im not trying to debate at all, i just read an incorrect statement and i would like to know what experience you have that has taught you this.

cause another noob is gonna read that and try to give their expert opinion next time it comes up...and they will be wrong.

sam o nela

Actually the differences in temp were as little as 21* F and as much as 53* F...that is a significant difference anyway you look at it...

Now are Bypass valves the end all?

Maybe, maybe not...but this sure made me feel comfortable in my decision to buy one:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/te...lve/index.html

Although if one could fabricate a Cold Air Box that is sealed off from the engine bay temps, that would probably be the best compromise between cold air and short air without necessitating a bypass valve...

GhettoNinja06

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I didn't say that hot or cold air doesn't make a difference, I said that there wasn't enough difference to cause significant gain/loss at speed. It's more about airflow imo. That is why the SRI isn't useless. Gives great throttle response. Also eliminates anychances hydrolocking the engine. If my CL wasn't my DD however, I would totaly but using a CAI instead.

Josh99CL

That box looks great... It's custom I assume.

sam o nela

No it looks prefabbed...I just grabbed a pic off Google...but I have seen some damn good looking custom ones before...unfortunately space in the engine bay is needed...an already cramped bay may not allow for a box

BigLizard

ok...I guess the thread has gone a little off track here. SRI and CAI has been beat to death plenty of times. Next subject!

97BlackAckCL

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THIS is what I'm talking about, dude says he hydrolocked and a whole page of whoring debate later, dude is gone and you guys are still going, cut it out