neuronbob

Welcome to AZ!

Positive things have been happening at Acura since Jon Ikeda took over. I'm curious what will happen as well. They need to bring back true driver's cars IMO. They don't have to br BMW-beaters, if that's what I was after, I'd go buy one and have the real thing.

TSXV6Guy

What Acura should really focus on, especially with the TLX and its upcoming successor , is quality control. The brand-new 2018 TLX AWD that I took out for a test drive a couple of weeks was plagued with vibrations on the highway... Not only this is very disappointing and not acceptable for an Acura, but for any car brand.

high-cam

Thanks!, it's cool to be here.
I agree, I want to see a drivers car for the 2020s. They don't have to be the fastest but they need to hit on the little things; visibility, low hip point, comfortable seats, clear gauges, steering feel, blah blah blah. They mix that in with progressive tech and they'll be good. I don't need a manual tho, just a DCT *grabs flamesuit*

Christopher.

Obviously his feelings were very hurt, I think he leaves it in the garage now because of the shame.

Hey now, I put a lot of effort into my car too! And by effort, I mean about how hard it is pushing down the gas pedal (I don't have a Sprint Booster, so I have to push it further!) on my 2018 TLX as it doesn't seem to work as well as I expected, I push it down hard, and the car is like: meh, we'll get there eventually, what's the rush?

Is there a red button somewhere I haven't found yet? Did the dealer leave my car in "training" mode? I'm still hoping to find the "Performance" they talked about when I walked into the dealership, they didn't tell me it was sold separately or something?

/S

But seriously - for me, what's missing most is not being able to customize "Sport+" mode to adjust the throttle mapping, transmission programming, braking aggressiveness, and suspension stiffness to my own liking. That's all that's really missing from the TLX, from my perspective.

(OK OK, yes, I'll admit, what's really missing, is the future V6 Turbo TLX, so that Acura doesn't have to slink around in shame because their claims of "Precision Crafted Performance" in their marketing was all a bunch of bullshit - make us proud Acura, you can do it!)

steve_97060

maybe you should have researched and test drove the TLX more before you bought it.

Christopher.

It is the best car I could afford new and I thought I needed to buy a new car for a car plan (it turns out I'm paying for this TLX out of my own pocket instead, car plan fell through) - they weren't offering nearly the same discounts on BMW M2, which would be my 2nd choice. Third choice would be Honda Accord 2.0T - but, I wanted a very smooth, quiet, and more pleasing car [than the Accord], just this once at least. Nothing's perfect (if there was a perfect, no comprimise choice), or else I'd have paid $20,000 and gotten an Audi RS7 (if there was such a thing as a perfect, no compromise choice) - each choice would have been a compromise regardless.

Pretty much the only way in which my TLX is not absolutely fantastic, for 90% of my use of it, is that it only gets ~17 MPG under stop-and-go local city traffic at an average speed of about 17 MPH. A hybrid would blow that mileage away. For ~10% of my driving, where I'm basically driving for just the pleasure of it, yes, the TLX leaves something to be desired but, as my single car "daily driver" I don't regret the choice of comprises I went with. When my kids get older and get their own cars, well, then maybe I'll pickup a used Accord 2.0T, upgrade it to "racing suspension" and tune the engine to 450HP at the wheels, essentially for free (just software).

NBPaspec

wow, you have a lot to learn

Christopher.

Well, I looked up the Hondata tune article and it actually only adds about 20HP and 85LB/FT of torque over stock for the "stage 2" tune - that's still puts it significantly higher than the Civic Type R though.

I think I would be pretty satisfied with 377 pound-feet @3,000 RPM

svtmike

Mr Hyde

Cleanup on aisle 3....

Christopher.

Well, I do prefer RWD for fun, but, I haven't tried the Type R, and I don't know how good my Bridgestone Potenza (stock) tires are on my TLX so I don't know if some proper summer sport tires might - hmm, well, sadly, nothing could quite make up for the ability to purposefully spin the rear end of your car around by applying excess throttle on purpose.

pyrodan007

So, that thread about better brakes .... :P

BEAR-AvHistory

I looked at my rotors on the 440 & they are 370mm, 14.6"

Bo_Darville

tell me what your OTD sales price was and i'll tell you what else you could have gotten for about the same

Christopher.

I don't have the paper in front of me, but let's say under $38K OTD with all the taxes, fees, etc.

I was planning to go onto the company car plan, pays up to $500/month for a Honda or Acura until it is 5 years old. Well that fell through some time after I bought the car.

I would have loved to have gotten a light European or Asian RWD car with sporty suspension and a 4 cylinder turbo, could have been a couple years old I guess? 1.5L would be out of the question and I'd prefer to have a minimum 2.0T, 3.0T V6 if I could afford it. The Stinger seems a little heavier than I'd like, not quite as "sporty" suspension as I'd like. AWD would be an option, if RWD was harder to fill.

Bo_Darville

i'm guessing by that number and your previous statements that you have a non-A-spec fwd v6, possibly w/o the tech pkg

for that $$$ or less, you would have had to sacrifice some interior quality and/or interior space (or in some cases reliability reputation) in exchange for greater driving enjoyment. some vehicles that come to mind include the fusion sport, A3 quattro, GTI, WRX, giulia, & ATS. unless you go outside your vehicle class (i.e. mustang or camaro, miata, etc.) i don't think i am leaving out any competing vehicles sold as new that would be more fun to drive.

EDIT: i stand corrected - you could have got a Q50 3.0t or a 330i in today's market in this price range. you effed up ese!

ZipSpeed

Bizarre, Turquoise Acura TLX Test Mule Spied On The Road

https://www.motor1.com/news/244434/acura-tlx-mule-spy-shots/

KeithL

Maybe because the next gen TLX will be wider and maybe it is a Hybrid and the rear end on the hybrid maybe needs to be bigger? An RLX currently is 1/4 inches wider than a TLX and if they dump the RLX maybe we will see a Type-S and a Sport Hybrid next gen TLX?

TacoBello

ZipSpeed

KeithL

Speed_Racer

It's not so much a Honda vs Acura thing. Type R are usually limited production models with Racing like modifications (lighter weight, more power, limited slip diffs, fewer luxury features for example). Type S is a more sportier version of base models (larger rims, brakes, added power but retaining all of the luxury features). Type R is more hardcore. I think the only Acura Type R has been the Integra in the US, but it's Honda counterpart models have Type R versions in other countries (RSX and NSX for example).

FLYGUY31

I was told by two dealers that the TLX S type will come next summer for a 2020 model. But there will be very little in the way of cosmetic changes. I would think if they are releasing a Type S, at the very least the head unit would be updated to the new unit in the RDX along with some cool cosmetic updates sprucing up the current Aspec model.

ultrapogi

ZipSpeed

Rumour has it Acura is working on Type-R-ing the current NSX.

https://www.motor1.com/news/241987/acura-nsx-type-r/

KeithL

ZipSpeed

Perhaps they want to beta test the new engine on an older platform before rolling it out onto new models? Or maybe they're constrained engineering wise so it would be easier to plop the new engine into the existing platform than design everything ground up? Keep in mind Acura probably wants to launch a new gen MDX sooner than later as they sell way more of those than the TLX, so I can see more engineering resources put into the MDX.

TSXV6Guy

Maybe next year's Type S will consist of slapping the new turbo V6 in the current platform and some brake upgrades. This will get some buzz which will take them until the next model change, which I suspect will be based on the new Accord platform. ?

Honda430

FLYGUY31

I tend to agree this could be the direction they are going. Nothing too dramatic, but enough to make it new and interesting.

hondu

The new Accord platform cannot fit a V6 engine.

jhb31

From the pictures this looks like a chopped up first gen TLX. This would almost body wise be like a mid cycle update with changes basically from the doors forward. Typically after a model run they do more significant redesign so this would be a bit disappointing . If this is the "type S" prototype it looks like it still had the smaller TLX calipers on it. Hopefully there is more major design changes although it does look like they got rid of the jewel headlights which IMO is an improvement. Also why does about every other car brand out there run with just the LED parking lamps during the daytime but Acura has no option to shut off the headlights? Never thought the jewel lights looked that great on the TLX and they look even worse now on the civic.

F23A4

Terdbath

^ Bah ha ha!

TSX69

https://vtec.net/forums/one-message?...mber=1#1359426

I spoke to Jeff earlier this week about a graph that I received. Unfortunately, neither one of us can post that graph but my source really came through today via a phone conversation, a first for us.

The Precision modular platform architecture that’s under the all new RDX will be exclusive to the crossovers which means the next MDX will get a variation of that platform as will any other crossovers that may surface. My source also confirmed the RDX Type-S will get the 3.0t/SH-AWD combo with the usual Type-S upgrades.

The best part is the next sedans/coupes(?) will get an all new, entirely different platform with a return to the double wishbone front suspension setup. The next generation TLX will be the first to use this platform and have a 272hp 2.0t/10AT as a base along with optional SH-AWD. So for the first time, we can now get SH-AWD with the base engine in a TL/TLX segment of car!

The next gen TLX Type-S will get the all new turbo 6 (no relation to the J-Series) with standard SH-AWD but final specs in regards to power aren’t finalized as of yet as the car is still in the development stages. My source confirmed that the TLX mule I posted was definitely the next generation TLX using current TLX body panels. Outside of the base 2.0t TLX and the Type-S, there will be a hybrid version (FWD) with the 2.0t and some type of 10 speed transmission but it won’t be the same 10 speed that we’ve seen in the RDX, RLX and Accord 2.0t.

My source also said that Honda is letting Acura become more of its own entity vs the Honda+ that’s we’ve seen for decades now.

JackRydden224

FLYGUY31

Any dates for releases??
This all sounds very promising

MTD

I'd like to see a version of the 2.0T/6MT combo similar to the Accord Sport. Basically a Tech version with some of the A-Spec goodies.

KeithL

I wish we knew a date I am hearing all sorts of crap from dealers like the Type-S will not be in year 1. I may pull the trigger on a Modern Steel / Red leather ASPEC AWD this week, but was also looking at a RLW Hybrid. If I knew a Type-S were 1 year out I would do the TLX since I won;t take such a killing getting out of it in 18 months, but if the Type-S is 2 years away then I might do the RLX. Decisions, decisions.

TacoBello