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Old 10-10-2017, 11:09 PM
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TLX ASPEC AWD Pricing, breaching $40K?

The lowest price I've received in shopping multiple dealerships on a 2018 TLX ASPEC AWD is $40,500, plus Tax, Tag, Title. No trade. Can anyone top this 11.4 % discount from MSRP?
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I assume you have seen my discussion titled "crossing the magic 40k price point"?

I personally haven't seen below 40k yet, but 40.5 is awfully close. From our discussion on the other thread it should be possible once the holiday sales event starts.
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That's awesome you got that. When I was shopping back in August, dealers would not budge off MSRP in Florida.
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I didn't cross the threshold but I picked up my AWD A-Spec for $40,000, I was looking to get as close to $40,000 as possible based on pricing for my area. My price is essentially invoice ($43,500) less available lease and dealer cash incentives that totaled $3,500. I worked across 3 dealers in my area, two of which were pretty aggressive when I didn't immediately go in to sign.
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Seems like prices are coming down now which makes sense. Slow sales and the new Accord is probably affecting this price decompression. At $40K ish, it's probably where it needs to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see below $40 in the upcoming months. Curious to know locations of where you are getting these prices...what states?
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how much below 40k you think it will go come Dec and Jan ?
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Originally Posted by FLYGUY31
Seems like prices are coming down now which makes sense. Slow sales and the new Accord is probably affecting this price decompression. At $40K ish, it's probably where it needs to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see below $40 in the upcoming months. Curious to know locations of where you are getting these prices...what states?
Just across the Commonwealth from you.

And I personally think sub-$40K is not that far off. Look how much price movement there was 3.5 months after they hit the lots. When I was browsing the board a few months ago people were lucky to get $1,000 off sticker, now the first pencil one of the dealers gave me was $43,800 before incentives. It wouldn't surprise me if Acura increased the available lease and/or dealer cash a bit more for November/December, especially if sales continue to stay flat/decrease in the face of the new Accord hitting the street.
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Just across the Commonwealth from you.

And I personally think sub-$40K is not that far off. Look how much price movement there was 3.5 months after they hit the lots. When I was browsing the board a few months ago people were lucky to get $1,000 off sticker, now the first pencil one of the dealers gave me was $43,800 before incentives. It wouldn't surprise me if Acura increased the available lease and/or dealer cash a bit more for November/December, especially if sales continue to stay flat/decrease in the face of the new Accord hitting the street.
Figured that with Penfans as your handle. Clearly I'm all Flyers, but give props to the Pens for their great run.
We'll see how low price goes from here, especially around the holiday season.
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Originally Posted by pensfan83
I didn't cross the threshold but I picked up my AWD A-Spec for $40,000, I was looking to get as close to $40,000 as possible based on pricing for my area. My price is essentially invoice ($43,500) less available lease and dealer cash incentives that totaled $3,500. I worked across 3 dealers in my area, two of which were pretty aggressive when I didn't immediately go in to sign.
PENSFAN: Thanks so much for the information, and congrats on earning a great deal! How does one find out about Acura-to-dealer deals, such as the $3500 in incentives you listed? I've heard that Cars.com has this info, but I can't find it.
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Incentive

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I wouldn't be in a rush to buy one of these. They will be offering fire sales on them by February.
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Originally Posted by pensfan83
I didn't cross the threshold but I picked up my AWD A-Spec for $40,000, I was looking to get as close to $40,000 as possible based on pricing for my area. My price is essentially invoice ($43,500) less available lease and dealer cash incentives that totaled $3,500. I worked across 3 dealers in my area, two of which were pretty aggressive when I didn't immediately go in to sign.
Your price is not exactly comparable (if you leased, but forgive me if you did in fact purchased) because the rebates for leasing is stronger than a purchase. I think OPs $40,500+TTL is really great if it's a purchase. When I was shopping 3 weeks ago, there was an extra $1,750 incentive for leasing. OP, just make sure that on your quote, the only additions are related to taxes and tag/title/licensing and that they did in fact include shipping/freight and processing fee. Dealers love using the line but we charge everyone processing fee. My answer is always, that's fine, deduct from the quote so we are only adding taxes/tags/licensing. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ronricks
I wouldn't be in a rush to buy one of these. They will be offering fire sales on them by February.
what are your best guesstimates for prices on these in Feb?
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Originally Posted by 2012wagon
what are your best guesstimates for prices on these in Feb?
You could probably get the Advance SH-AWD for about 39K OTD and the Aspec for about 2K less.
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Originally Posted by MGP99999
You could probably get the Advance SH-AWD for about 39K OTD and the Aspec for about 2K less.
That sounds nice but I can't imagine prices getting that low until next year's model is released. When you say OTD you're saying the purchase price with dealer fee will be around $36K. I want to believe it will get that low but am not as optimistic. I'm just hoping to get the FWD A-Spec for $36K before the extra fees.
Any other thoughts?
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Originally Posted by MGP99999
You could probably get the Advance SH-AWD for about 39K OTD and the Aspec for about 2K less.
So you are saying you think you will be able to get an AWD A-Spec, Out the door, for 37k? That puts the buy price around 35ish. There is no way that will happen... even with a model change.
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So you are saying you think you will be able to get an AWD A-Spec, Out the door, for 37k? That puts the buy price around 35ish. There is no way that will happen... even with a model change.
This is based off of what the Advance SH-AWD models were going for at the beginning of this year. Considering the new Accord's impact on Acura's car potential and the the fact that the TLX is already obsolete, I would not be surprised to see these prices.
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Just got a lease quote from a dealer in NJ. 2018 TLX A-SPEC with Technology Package and SH-AWD . $420 per month, 10K miles per year lease. This puts the selling price at around $39,150.
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Best price for AWD A-Spec

I'd been taking to a dealer near me for just over 2 months trying to get this car for a price I think is fair. Last week we finally made a deal. V6, A-Spec, AWD, Modern steel metallic, black interior. $38,324. Not sure anyone will beat this price.

V6, A-Spec, AWD. Best price ever?
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Originally Posted by lausy
Your price is not exactly comparable (if you leased, but forgive me if you did in fact purchased) because the rebates for leasing is stronger than a purchase. I think OPs $40,500+TTL is really great if it's a purchase. When I was shopping 3 weeks ago, there was an extra $1,750 incentive for leasing. OP, just make sure that on your quote, the only additions are related to taxes and tag/title/licensing and that they did in fact include shipping/freight and processing fee. Dealers love using the line but we charge everyone processing fee. My answer is always, that's fine, deduct from the quote so we are only adding taxes/tags/licensing. Good luck.
I leased and you are correct it isn't an apples to apples comparison but I would be very shocked if that price was for a purchase. It seems like some of the latest posts are seeing sub-$40K prices but they are for leases. If it is for a purchase then that is a very good deal, over $5K off with only $1,250 of that being dealer cash.

Originally Posted by SergeyM
Just got a lease quote from a dealer in NJ. 2018 TLX A-SPEC with Technology Package and SH-AWD . $420 per month, 10K miles per year lease. This puts the selling price at around $39,150.
That payment is pre-tax, correct? Even if it is that's a very strong initial offer.

Originally Posted by Madmortigan
I'd been taking to a dealer near me for just over 2 months trying to get this car for a price I think is fair. Last week we finally made a deal. V6, A-Spec, AWD, Modern steel metallic, black interior. $38,324. Not sure anyone will beat this price.

V6, A-Spec, AWD. Best price ever?
I would say yes. I thought I did good with $40,000, relative to what I found through my research but that's an incredible deal.
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Originally Posted by Madmortigan
I'd been taking to a dealer near me for just over 2 months trying to get this car for a price I think is fair. Last week we finally made a deal. V6, A-Spec, AWD, Modern steel metallic, black interior. $38,324. Not sure anyone will beat this price.

V6, A-Spec, AWD. Best price ever?
What's your monthly payments based on this price?
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If the lease deals really are that good, would it be almost better to lease, then convert the rest to finance at the end of the lease, instead of traditional finance?
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End of lease buy out price is never negotiable.
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End of lease buy out price is never negotiable.
Depends on manufacturer. Not uncommon for cars to be bought at the end of a lease for less than the residual.
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The 18 TLX AWD ASPEC is the first Acura sedan I would consider purchasing in 12 years to replace my beloved third gen 06 TL 6 speed manual. But...there is so much evidence of cost cutting on the AWD ASPEC that I simply cannot consider purchasing one until my negotiated price meets the value proposition Acura is offering on the ASPEC. Hence, my focus on price. Thank you all for continuing to share your prices so we can be very educated consumers.

My top cost cutting concerns: None of these are deal breakers; but they motivate me to continue bargaining very hard.
1: The continued use of the ZF designed and manufactured 9 speed transmission. This transmission was not ready for prime time in 2015, and sullied the Acura brand. It should have been discontinued immediately for the 18 model year, especially since the new Honda designed and manufactured 10 speed transmission is already in use in the Honda Odyssey.
2: The 2018 J35 produces 290 HP in TLX trim. The 2007 J35 in the TL S-type produced 287 HP. Only a three horsepower improvement in 11 years. The bones of the J35 go back to the J30 of 1996 from 22 model years ago. Honda is known as an Engine company. There is no excuse to not be using the 310 HO J35 from the RLX in the ASPEC. Except for cost!
3: The head unit in the 2018 TLX produces GPS graphics no better than my 06 TL. The unit in the 2018 Accord is far superior. Another cost savings.
4: The platform used by the TLX is a full generation behind the 10th generation Accord. With the 4th gen TLX covering 6 model years, its possible we won't see a TLX using a new generation platform until the 2021 model year, three years behind the Accord, and 5 years behind the Civic upon which it is based.

These 4 examples are simply unacceptable for a car designed as "Precision Crafted Performance". Acura can and must do far better. I would pay $45750 (ASPEC AWD sticker) for a 320 HP AWD ASPEC with updated head unit and 10 speed Honda designed transmission. Until Acura quits focusing on cost cutting, and instead delivers true performance focused driver's cars, I'll wait until the deal matches the car. In my opinion, about $37K for the AWD ASPEC.
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^ Good post. I agree with all your points. And who knows, you might be able to get to that price in about 6 months. When I sat in the A-Spec, the interior felt "old". It feels too similar to my 2010 TSX, and being that's 2017, that isn't a good thing.
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Until Acura quits focusing on cost cutting, and instead delivers true performance focused driver's cars, I'll wait until the deal matches the car. In my opinion, about $37K for the AWD ASPEC.
"Precision Crafted Performance"

Someone at ACURA obviously thinks making zippy commercials is less expensive & just as good as putting the hardware into the product to make actual zippy cars.
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FYI: was offered $39,684 selling price in MD for AWD.
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FYI: was offered $39,684 selling price in MD for AWD.
That just may be the sweet spot for this car.
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Originally Posted by gremlin
The 18 TLX AWD ASPEC is the first Acura sedan I would consider purchasing in 12 years to replace my beloved third gen 06 TL 6 speed manual. But...there is so much evidence of cost cutting on the AWD ASPEC that I simply cannot consider purchasing one until my negotiated price meets the value proposition Acura is offering on the ASPEC. Hence, my focus on price. Thank you all for continuing to share your prices so we can be very educated consumers.

My top cost cutting concerns: None of these are deal breakers; but they motivate me to continue bargaining very hard.
1: The continued use of the ZF designed and manufactured 9 speed transmission. This transmission was not ready for prime time in 2015, and sullied the Acura brand. It should have been discontinued immediately for the 18 model year, especially since the new Honda designed and manufactured 10 speed transmission is already in use in the Honda Odyssey.
2: The 2018 J35 produces 290 HP in TLX trim. The 2007 J35 in the TL S-type produced 287 HP. Only a three horsepower improvement in 11 years. The bones of the J35 go back to the J30 of 1996 from 22 model years ago. Honda is known as an Engine company. There is no excuse to not be using the 310 HO J35 from the RLX in the ASPEC. Except for cost!
3: The head unit in the 2018 TLX produces GPS graphics no better than my 06 TL. The unit in the 2018 Accord is far superior. Another cost savings.
4: The platform used by the TLX is a full generation behind the 10th generation Accord. With the 4th gen TLX covering 6 model years, its possible we won't see a TLX using a new generation platform until the 2021 model year, three years behind the Accord, and 5 years behind the Civic upon which it is based.

These 4 examples are simply unacceptable for a car designed as "Precision Crafted Performance". Acura can and must do far better. I would pay $45750 (ASPEC AWD sticker) for a 320 HP AWD ASPEC with updated head unit and 10 speed Honda designed transmission. Until Acura quits focusing on cost cutting, and instead delivers true performance focused driver's cars, I'll wait until the deal matches the car. In my opinion, about $37K for the AWD ASPEC.
All great points.

The TLX is a decent car but things need to be put into perspective when you look at the big picture and at the competition. Seems like some great deals out there and more will come as time goes on...I know that I have never been solicited this hard to trade in my TSX for a TLX before.
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All great points.

The TLX is a decent car but things need to be put into perspective when you look at the big picture and at the competition. Seems like some great deals out there and more will come as time goes on...I know that I have never been solicited this hard to trade in my TSX for a TLX before.
Interesting that it only took 5 months for the Aspec to drop price by about 5k. MMC was supposed to stop discounts and increase sales. Could work due to looks but buyers still go for price and not wanting the car no matter what, game of compromises. Hard for old buyers to let go of their reliable cars when Acura dropped to the almost rock bottom of the list.
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Acura's ace in the hole was always price. They overreached when they started to push toward $50K for a full boat. The dealers early on were also stupid to hold at MSRP or a $1000 or so off when the car came out. They way overestimated the demand for a car at that price.

They sucked up all the gotta have it people, who would pay extra to be the first on their block in the first month. Then they were slow to react to the real market & now have to take steeper discounts than if the offered slightly better deal on release to get cars on the road.
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Are people financing the car getting less than $40k or is it only lease. When I bought the car 1 month ago I got $43k flat for a purchase price.

Someone above commented on the nav graphics. Yes they are the same ones as on my inlaws 10 year old odyssey. I haven't used the factory nav since I've used waze or google maps. Honestly with Android Auto (or apple car play if that's your flavor) I really don't see the point of using factory navigation.
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Are people financing the car getting less than $40k or is it only lease. When I bought the car 1 month ago I got $43k flat for a purchase price.

Someone above commented on the nav graphics. Yes they are the same ones as on my inlaws 10 year old odyssey. I haven't used the factory nav since I've used waze or google maps. Honestly with Android Auto (or apple car play if that's your flavor) I really don't see the point of using factory navigation.
Is there a reason the factory nav are not upgraded on Acura? I had a loaner TLX, and surprised how it was like my 2012 wagon. Does it cost a lot of money to have the crisp graphics of the Lexus?
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Originally Posted by gremlin

1: The continued use of the ZF designed and manufactured 9 speed transmission. This transmission was not ready for prime time in 2015, and sullied the Acura brand. It should have been discontinued immediately for the 18 model year,
It was fixed within a year. It is over. Honda's auto V6 tranny problem of yore have been over 4-5 years.

2: The 2018 J35 produces 290 HP in TLX trim. The 2007 J35 in the TL S-type produced 287 HP. Only a three horsepower improvement in 11 years.
25% better EPA combined fuel economy.

3: The head unit in the 2018 TLX produces GPS graphics no better than my 06 TL.
Could certainly be better.

4: The platform used by the TLX is a full generation behind the 10th generation Accord.
It was always like that that didn't keep you to love your TL.
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According to Cargurus average selling price for a SHAWD A-Spec in Southern Cali is $43,500 and there are only 16 examples of the model for sale within 150 miles of LA. Can someone tell me where these sub $40,000 deals are for purchase?
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According to Cargurus average selling price for a SHAWD A-Spec in Southern Cali is $43,500 and there are only 16 examples of the model for sale within 150 miles of LA. Can someone tell me where these sub $40,000 deals are for purchase?
Everyone posting purchase prices in the 40k range really should post the exact specifics of their deals. The 40-41k range on a lease has been able to be had pretty much since day one with the incentives available on leases but those same incentives aren't available on purchases and I can't see how any dealer is getting that low. They haven't been out long enough for dealers to start dropping them 3 grand under invoice.
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Originally Posted by Alex Duhovnik
FYI: was offered $39,684 selling price in MD for AWD.
Was this for lease? Would you mind telling what dealership this was at?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Greg D
Everyone posting purchase prices in the 40k range really should post the exact specifics of their deals. The 40-41k range on a lease has been able to be had pretty much since day one with the incentives available on leases but those same incentives aren't available on purchases and I can't see how any dealer is getting that low. They haven't been out long enough for dealers to start dropping them 3 grand under invoice.
I'm not sure people were hitting low 40's or 41 out of the gate with leases, at least from some of the deals posted early on.

As for my deal I basically netted the car (A-Spec AWD) for invoice less incentives. I was extremely pleased to get the deal I did, I felt it was fair and both parties walked away happy.
  • $43,500 Sale Price
  • $2,250 Lease Cash
  • $750 Bonus Cash
  • $500 TLX Cash
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According to Cargurus average selling price for a SHAWD A-Spec in Southern Cali is $43,500 and there are only 16 examples of the model for sale within 150 miles of LA. Can someone tell me where these sub $40,000 deals are for purchase?
An Acura Dealer close to me in Maryland has 19 ASPEC TLX in stock, about 10 FWD, and 10 AWD. And there are 4 more Acura dealers nearby. BMW, Audi, and Mercedes rule the DC metro area for luxury of near-luxury vehicles, causing Acura to focus on price. Based on VINs (Acura has produced about 5500 2018 AWD ASPECs so far), some of the TLX AWD ASPEC stock in Maryland is 3-4 months old, causing dealers to pay floor-planning charges. Southwest is advertising one-way fares from LAX to BWI (Baltimore) for as little as $200. If you have the time, flying cross-country and driving your new ASPEC AWD back to LA would be awesome!



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