From The Source: 2.4 TLX = Meant To Drive Sportier
So I ran across this video earlier, from the 2014 TLX unveiling... a Mat Hargett, who was the Chief Engineer in charge of the TLX, said they they specifically made the 2.4 TLX drive sportier compared to the 3.5 as a nod to TSX owners, and the 3.5 drive more refined to appeal to the TL owners...
Watch or scroll to around 2:20: Thoughts #tlxfam ??? |
this is something that those who've driven both already knew.
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Originally Posted by TSXV6Guy
(Post 16408557)
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Beached: Great find. Thanks for sharing. This was not one of the dozen video reviews I had watched. I bet TSXV6GUY is right on. Quick hitter thoughts:
I know this is an Acura enthusiast forum and these comments may not be received well here. You need not look very far to find others here leaving Acura for the competition because of the TLX. |
I just don't understand how the new Accord came out for 2018 yet Acura has the current TLX continuing until the new gen is released for 2021.
that isn't going to fly for many buyers and sales have indeed shown that. |
^it's Honda/Acura Motor corp. NOT Acura/Honda Motor Corp.
The Honda's get the newest tech before the Acura's... pretty much how it went for the past 10 years |
Originally Posted by chums
(Post 16408531)
this is something that those who've driven both already knew.
I added a "Sprint Booster" and drive with Traction Control off just to try and take away the throttle lag/limiting that I hate so much. Why do they call it a "Sport Sedan" but then design it to suit my Grandma's driving?!? The TLX *could* have been so much more FUN than it is, otherwise, it's a great car (I have the FWD PAWS model, no problems with vibration or otherwise). |
Originally Posted by justnspace
(Post 16408634)
^it's Honda/Acura Motor corp. NOT Acura/Honda Motor Corp.
The Honda's get the newest tech before the Acura's... pretty much how it went for the past 10 years |
Originally Posted by Christopher.
(Post 16409640)
So, does the 2.4 TLX drive very different from the ILX? Because I tried the ILX and it did not feel as "sporty" as my V6 TLX at all. Basicaly everything about my TLX I like better than the ILX (I got it as a loaner while my TLX was in the shop for the pump recall).
I added a "Sprint Booster" and drive with Traction Control off just to try and take away the throttle lag/limiting that I hate so much. Why do they call it a "Sport Sedan" but then design it to suit my Grandma's driving?!? The TLX *could* have been so much more FUN than it is, otherwise, it's a great car (I have the FWD PAWS model, no problems with vibration or otherwise). |
Originally Posted by hondu
(Post 16409818)
What year and model of ILX did you drive?
I was surprised at how not sporty feeling the suspension was - I thought it was supposed to be sporty on the A-spec version. I didn't push it hard or take corners hard though. I also don't know quite what the "S" does on the shifter? I didn't have it very long, but it was disappointing enough that I was actually happy to give it back and get back in the TLX, which is strange, because I'm so curious and had been so excited to TRY it. I thought, if the 2.4 TLX is supposed to feel more "nimble" than the V6 TLX, then shouldn't the 2.4 ILX be even more so? I wonder how the ILX compares to the Civic Si? I have not tried a Civic recently either, though my wife owns one (hers is the base model, it doesn't even have alloy wheels - that's what she chose). |
I’ve never driven an ILX but it is based on the last gen civic, so I can imagine not that fun.
I’m coming from an F30 2013 328i, which hugged corners and felt planted and spirited, albeit the electronic steering was kinda dead. My 2019 TLX base is FUN. P-AWS corners very well, right there with my bimmer. The 2.4 is not as fast as my 252hp turbo 4, but more reliable and once you hit 3k RPM’s it flys. It just feels lighter than I know it is, a cool attribute. I’ve read quite a few people who like P-AWS better than SH-AWS as it gives you more feedback and a rear-wheel drive feeling, which is fun and bimmer like. Knowing that Acura purposefuly built the 2.4 to drive sportier, I would assume it lives up to it (I’ve seen this echoed in many forum posts).
Originally Posted by Christopher.
(Post 16409875)
It was an A-Spec, so either 2018 or 2019? It looked brand new.
I was surprised at how not sporty feeling the suspension was - I thought it was supposed to be sporty on the A-spec version. I didn't push it hard or take corners hard though. I also don't know quite what the "S" does on the shifter? I didn't have it very long, but it was disappointing enough that I was actually happy to give it back and get back in the TLX, which is strange, because I'm so curious and had been so excited to TRY it. I thought, if the 2.4 TLX is supposed to feel more "nimble" than the V6 TLX, then shouldn't the 2.4 ILX be even more so? I wonder how the ILX compares to the Civic Si? I have not tried a Civic recently either, though my wife owns one (hers is the base model, it doesn't even have alloy wheels - that's what she chose). |
Originally Posted by Christopher.
(Post 16409875)
It was an A-Spec, so either 2018 or 2019? It looked brand new.
I was surprised at how not sporty feeling the suspension was - I thought it was supposed to be sporty on the A-spec version. I didn't push it hard or take corners hard though. I also don't know quite what the "S" does on the shifter? I didn't have it very long, but it was disappointing enough that I was actually happy to give it back and get back in the TLX, which is strange, because I'm so curious and had been so excited to TRY it. I thought, if the 2.4 TLX is supposed to feel more "nimble" than the V6 TLX, then shouldn't the 2.4 ILX be even more so? I wonder how the ILX compares to the Civic Si? I have not tried a Civic recently either, though my wife owns one (hers is the base model, it doesn't even have alloy wheels - that's what she chose). |
Originally Posted by Beached
(Post 16409931)
I’ve read quite a few people who like P-AWS better than SH-AWS as it gives you more feedback and a rear-wheel drive feeling, which is fun and bimmer like.
Sometime around ~1989 - 1990 my friend needed me to drive his BMW from his house to his work as a favor. It was a lower end smaller model - I remember it felt so fun to drive, peppy, spirited, very firm and planted, nimble feeling - though not as rough as the Porsche 944 which one of my college dorm mates had - that thing felt so stiff and made your teeth rattle even on decent roads. I guess at some point, I should pickup some inexpensive older small BMW because (I'm guessing here) I could get somewhat the handling feel of the Mazda Miata, but more power, for more thrilling acceleration? |
Correct. I would love if Acura had the V6 with the 8-speed DCT and P-AWS, that would be a winner. Next model will be a 2.0t from the accord and maybe the turbo v6 from the NSX, just highly de-tuned, that’s my feeling.
Originally Posted by Christopher.
(Post 16410468)
Are you speaking of the 2.4L 4 cylinder model only, or also the 3.5L V6 P-AWS 9 (that's the one I have) - I had often wondered if I made a mistake not going w/SH-AWD. But I guess I do keep reading that it faills to deliver a driving feel like what you get from a sporty RWD car? Anyway, thanks very much for telling me that.
Sometime around ~1989 - 1990 my friend needed me to drive his BMW from his house to his work as a favor. It was a lower end smaller model - I remember it felt so fun to drive, peppy, spirited, very firm and planted, nimble feeling - though not as rough as the Porsche 944 which one of my college dorm mates had - that thing felt so stiff and made your teeth rattle even on decent roads. I guess at some point, I should pickup some inexpensive older small BMW because (I'm guessing here) I could get somewhat the handling feel of the Mazda Miata, but more power, for more thrilling acceleration? |
Originally Posted by Beached
(Post 16410541)
Correct. I would love if Acura had the V6 with the 8-speed DCT and P-AWS, that would be a winner. Next model will be a 2.0t from the accord and maybe the turbo v6 from the NSX, just highly de-tuned, that’s my feeling.
They are working on a turbo V6 for the coming Type-S models, but it is not based on the NSX engine. |
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