The official year end sales 2013 ranks. Where do you expect TLX to be ranked?
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The official year end sales 2013 ranks. Where do you expect TLX to be ranked?
This is the year end sales for these cars. Where do you expect the TLX to be after 1 full year?
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/search/...?max-results=5
I honestly think the TLX will probably sell 60,000+ during it's 1st year.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/search/...?max-results=5
I honestly think the TLX will probably sell 60,000+ during it's 1st year.
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^^ Yeah, and when it does sell 35K at the end of 2014 all the pundits will claim it's a failure... all the while forgetting that it only sold for 6 months.
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To be honest, I have mixed feelings about the actual sale numbers for Acura and here is why:
1. If they don't do well, it puts the R&D money in jeopardy by having limiting cash flow and that will limit what we'll have in our vehicles. This in itself will only weaken the brand and only exacerbate the problem with Acura.
2. If they do well, it will mean our TLX will be everywhere, make our vehicle less unique and opportunities for discount even less.
At the end of the day, I want a good and reliable car that looks amazing. So far, I like what I see with the TLX....
Bottom line, this TLX will sell and do much better than the TL. The comments on Motortrend.com are not as excited about this car but they are by far the most unrefined posters I have ever seen.
1. If they don't do well, it puts the R&D money in jeopardy by having limiting cash flow and that will limit what we'll have in our vehicles. This in itself will only weaken the brand and only exacerbate the problem with Acura.
2. If they do well, it will mean our TLX will be everywhere, make our vehicle less unique and opportunities for discount even less.
At the end of the day, I want a good and reliable car that looks amazing. So far, I like what I see with the TLX....
Bottom line, this TLX will sell and do much better than the TL. The comments on Motortrend.com are not as excited about this car but they are by far the most unrefined posters I have ever seen.
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And it sounds like reviewers are already chomping at the bit in a way that they did not for the 4G TL or the RLX!
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Wasn't even mentioned in the MSN top new cars at the Detroit autoshow. I think people on this website might be excited but there wasn't much excitement in some car mags I browse from time to time - perhaps it will get more fanfare when the production car is introduced.
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I think it all hinges on how they price it. Technically it looks like it has great promise, now we have to see how they finish the details and price it.
I'd guess.... (seasonally adjusted since it will only have 6 months of sales)
- 50,000
- 60,000 if it has folding rear seats
Apparently there is the capacity to make 400,000 cars so even accounting for the accord it looks very doable.
Likely there was more attention given to new production cars. The TLX was just a prototype. And the announcement was pretty short on details so there was not much really to talk about. I'm sure there will be a lot more attention at the New York show when they announce the production car will all the details and prices.
I'd guess.... (seasonally adjusted since it will only have 6 months of sales)
- 50,000
- 60,000 if it has folding rear seats
Apparently there is the capacity to make 400,000 cars so even accounting for the accord it looks very doable.
Likely there was more attention given to new production cars. The TLX was just a prototype. And the announcement was pretty short on details so there was not much really to talk about. I'm sure there will be a lot more attention at the New York show when they announce the production car will all the details and prices.
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Unless the interior is a disaster, I would guess 50000 - 60000 and relatively easily. So many people I think have been waiting for 4G revision....and since TLX replaces both the TL and TSX, I think the numbers will be pretty good. I am assuming also that Acura has the capacity to at least meet the old TL and TSX numbers.
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Its going to have to be priced right with features the public wants along with styling that is attractive to meet some of the 50-60k guesses here. Especially with a mid season launch
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Year Acura TL U.S. Sales Acura TL Canadian Sales 2002 60,764 n/a 2003 56,770 n/a 2004 77,895 5801 2005 78,218 5280 2006 71,348 4694 2007 58,545 3995 2008 46,766 4019 2009 33,620 3577 2010 34,049 2895 2011 31,237 3229 2012 33,572 3323 2013 24,318 2374
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Its going to have to be priced right with features the public wants along with styling that is attractive to meet some of the 50-60k guesses here. Especially with a mid season launch
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Year Acura TL U.S. Sales Acura TL Canadian Sales 2002 60,764 n/a 2003 56,770 n/a 2004 77,895 5801 2005 78,218 5280 2006 71,348 4694 2007 58,545 3995 2008 46,766 4019 2009 33,620 3577 2010 34,049 2895 2011 31,237 3229 2012 33,572 3323 2013 24,318 2374
These sales are great...Was everyone buying cars more in 2004-2008?
Judging from those sale numbers the TL must have finished top 3 in their segment every year.
Also I don't think the 4G failed judging from 2009-2010 numbers at least. That sounds decent?
Just because it didn't sell as much as the 3G doesn't mean it's a failure?
Fail would mean like sub 20,000 right?
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I think we were having a similar discussion over on TOV and the conclusion was 700,000 annual capacity spread over four facilities. Personally, I see 30Kish in calendar year 2014, and in it's first full year, ~60-70,000 if priced right. If the screw up the pricing 50K annually for the first couple of years.
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These sales are great...Was everyone buying cars more in 2004-2008?
Judging from those sale numbers the TL must have finished top 3 in their segment every year.
Also I don't think the 4G failed judging from 2009-2010 numbers at least. That sounds decent?
Just because it didn't sell as much as the 3G doesn't mean it's a failure?
Fail would mean like sub 20,000 right?
Judging from those sale numbers the TL must have finished top 3 in their segment every year.
Also I don't think the 4G failed judging from 2009-2010 numbers at least. That sounds decent?
Just because it didn't sell as much as the 3G doesn't mean it's a failure?
Fail would mean like sub 20,000 right?
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Think it will sell better than the 4G but not as well as the 3G. Competition is way more intense now with makes that did not participate head to head in the TL's direct price range now in the game like MB & Caddy.
As for Tommy8888: The 3G was the best selling car in its segment. When you release an all new car & it sells half as well as the outgoing model its a failure.
As for Tommy8888: The 3G was the best selling car in its segment. When you release an all new car & it sells half as well as the outgoing model its a failure.
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Still think the 3 series sold more then the 3G but then again the TL has always been a single variant, sedan only. I think it was only the best selling sedan, not 100% though. Half the sales and in that context is pretty bad but for argument's sake, what if it was like 35% or so less?
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Still think the 3 series sold more then the 3G but then again the TL has always been a single variant, sedan only. I think it was only the best selling sedan, not 100% though. Half the sales and in that context is pretty bad but for argument's sake, what if it was like 35% or so less?
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