Official TLX Sales Thread
06-01-2018, 06:50 PM
#441
06-01-2018, 07:20 PM
#443
Suzuka Master
If Acura were smart they would release Type-S with new FMC, but traditionally they will wait, but with cars like the Stinger and G70 they need a Type-S at day one of FMC.
06-01-2018, 08:12 PM
#444
Racer
06-01-2018, 08:14 PM
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06-01-2018, 08:45 PM
#446
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Ouch
May 2018 = 2,723 (-22.4% vs 3,508 a year ago)
I suppose that's an improvement from the -44.6% in April 2018
Audi A4 = 3,472 (+4.3% vs 3,329 a year ago)
Lexus IS = 2,180 (-7.9% vs 2,367 a year ago)
Lexus ES = 3,828 (-9.5% vs 4,228 a year ago)
Infiniti Q50 = 2,945 (-12.6% vs 3,370 a year ago)
Infiniti Q60 = 848 (-12.8% vs 972 a year ago)
May 2018 = 2,723 (-22.4% vs 3,508 a year ago)
I suppose that's an improvement from the -44.6% in April 2018
Audi A4 = 3,472 (+4.3% vs 3,329 a year ago)
Lexus IS = 2,180 (-7.9% vs 2,367 a year ago)
Lexus ES = 3,828 (-9.5% vs 4,228 a year ago)
Infiniti Q50 = 2,945 (-12.6% vs 3,370 a year ago)
Infiniti Q60 = 848 (-12.8% vs 972 a year ago)
BMW 4 Series May 2017 3895 May 2018 2937
Limping along toward the F80 3 Series finish line. The M3 version of the F80 has ended production in May. The all new G20 3 Series due in October as a 2019 model.
06-02-2018, 12:31 AM
#447
*He also told me well over a year ago that every model will eventually have a type S variant. That I think has been confirmed as well along with a-spec trim. I don't see any way the do a type S model in this gen tlx. The whole drive train would need to be replaced and the Type S always has a list of other options. Why would they spend time to build out a one year run on absolute tail end of the cars run cycle? Surely all their efforts at this point are on the next gen TLX or some variant of it. Maybe they surprise with a coupe since the accord no longer offers one and lexus/infiniti both have nice coupes in their lineups.
06-02-2018, 06:21 AM
#448
Racer
I also thought it was strange when they told me the S would come next summer but it wouldn’t be a full remodel. That’s makes no sense. Maybe we get surprised and it’s s full remodel next summer as a 2020...time will tell.
06-02-2018, 07:49 AM
#449
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Should coincide with my lease termination in 12 months. 
But as I’m not an early adopter, I’ll take a leftover A-Spec V6 at markdown.
But as I’m not an early adopter, I’ll take a leftover A-Spec V6 at markdown.
06-04-2018, 06:54 PM
#450
Suzuka Master
After seeing the interior of the RDX, I am hoping the next generation TLX comes out soon with a similar interior. That is a vehicle I would like. The RDX looks pretty good, but I do not really need a SUV, and would like a vehicle that gets better gas mileage.
I just saw that Camry sales were only 29,965 in May, so Accord sales of 28,212 is not too bad by comparison. For the year, Camry sales are about 40,000 above Accord sales, or almost 40% more.
I just saw that Camry sales were only 29,965 in May, so Accord sales of 28,212 is not too bad by comparison. For the year, Camry sales are about 40,000 above Accord sales, or almost 40% more.
New TLX should be about 12-14 months away. My current lease is up in 3 months and torn now that wife test drove new RDX. I was wanting a G80 Sport or G70 Sport, was even looking at a 18 RLX SH-AWD, but the thought of TLX Type-S with the new interior has my in a dilemma.
06-04-2018, 09:13 PM
#451
My lease is up in 18 months, so 12-14 months for a new TLX would work out great for me. The current TLX has pretty bad reliability ratings, so hopefully Acura will accelerate the introduction of the new TLX instead of trying to squeeze a 6th model year out of it. I believe sales would greatly increase if they offer an interior similar to that of the new RDX. The current TLX only offers a 4 way power passenger seat on base models, which is pretty bad for a "luxury" car.
06-04-2018, 09:38 PM
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I believe the next complete redesign would be ILX and MDX.
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
06-04-2018, 09:45 PM
#453
I believe the next complete redesign would be ILX and MDX.
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
06-05-2018, 03:55 AM
#454
Suzuka Master
I believe the next complete redesign would be ILX and MDX.
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
I don't see TLX being the next. In 2016 MDX got the new grill and etc. So it makes perfect sense to release by fall 2019 as a 2020 model the new MDX. ILX is in the limbo, if all goes well, we should be able to see the new ILX by early 2019.
2020 will be the TLX
06-05-2018, 06:39 AM
#455
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Acura sells so few ILXs, which makes me wonder why they will even bother bringing out a new generation. I think they would be better off with two larger sedans, like when they had the TL and TSX. There is so little demand for small sedans, especially ones with little or no true luxury features like the ILX.
06-05-2018, 11:09 PM
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Many years ago, before I even knew there was a Canadian EL model, I saw a car that looked like a 4 door Civic with Acura badges in Los Angeles. I assumed it was a rebadged Civic, although I could not imagine why someone would stick Acura badges on their Civic. I later realized it must have been an EL from Canada.
06-06-2018, 08:35 AM
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CDN sales for Acura brand: 1,904 unites an increase of 5.8% (compared to last year May).
YTD: 7,812 units an increase of 3.7% over last year.
TLX May sales: 387
YTD: 1,728, 21% increase compared to last year this time
I know Acura sales are inconsistent or more decreasing in the US but in Canada Acura is doing pretty well. Sales are at least 30-40% above Infiniti and ~10% less than Lexus.
YTD: 7,812 units an increase of 3.7% over last year.
TLX May sales: 387
YTD: 1,728, 21% increase compared to last year this time
I know Acura sales are inconsistent or more decreasing in the US but in Canada Acura is doing pretty well. Sales are at least 30-40% above Infiniti and ~10% less than Lexus.
06-06-2018, 08:45 AM
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Acura sells so few ILXs, which makes me wonder why they will even bother bringing out a new generation. I think they would be better off with two larger sedans, like when they had the TL and TSX. There is so little demand for small sedans, especially ones with little or no true luxury features like the ILX.
I agree with you but if Acura revamps the entire model and produce something like RDX. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't sell more than today lol!
But if the discontinue ILX and bring CDX, I think it's a much better idea. This sub-compact segment is hot....Q3, GLA and X1 are doing really well. Now we will get UX ...Also, the Volvo TC40...
The only vehicle is going backward is QX30.
06-06-2018, 09:29 AM
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I just checked Honda's Canada sales results. They sold 144 ILXs in May, and a whopping 689 total year to date.
Many years ago, before I even knew there was a Canadian EL model, I saw a car that looked like a 4 door Civic with Acura badges in Los Angeles. I assumed it was a rebadged Civic, although I could not imagine why someone would stick Acura badges on their Civic. I later realized it must have been an EL from Canada.
Many years ago, before I even knew there was a Canadian EL model, I saw a car that looked like a 4 door Civic with Acura badges in Los Angeles. I assumed it was a rebadged Civic, although I could not imagine why someone would stick Acura badges on their Civic. I later realized it must have been an EL from Canada.
1. Canada is 1/10th the market size of the US.
2. The ILX is OLD now, still built off the 9G Civic platform. Anyone who knows anything about cars would instantly realize it's wiser to go with the Civic over the ILX at this point. It's way more value (I know this in itself is likely always a component, when comparing a luxury brand to it's lower "pedestrian" brand, but the value component is ridiculous for such a small car, vs not at all for the other), it's a newer platform, new engine, new tech... why would anyone go for the ILX, besides for looks- and it does look better than the new Civic.
You're right though... the EL did sell like hot cakes. I still see them every day, all over the place, and they haven't been built them in 13 years. Then the CSX came out... I actually came very close to buying a used CSX-S, back in about 2012... it was a fun car... but the interior was brutal, at best. It just looked super cheap. The navi screen was tiny and seemed like an afterthought. Etc... and CSX sales did plummet. Then the ILX came out... and it hasn't been able to regain any of the ground the CSX lost. The ILX seemed like a continuation of the CSX, but now into the US market as well... but you won't find many people, or auto publishings that rave about the ILX.
07-03-2018, 10:24 AM
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-27.9%
March 2018 sales jump of 42.6% is looking to be a fluke.
March 2018 sales jump of 42.6% is looking to be a fluke.
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07-03-2018, 11:38 AM
#466
Burning Brakes
Unless someone just wants a sedan, not sure why one would pick a 2019 TLX over the 2019 RDX. I have an 05 TL and was looking to get a sedan but if i stay Acura I'd get the RDX. The next generation TLX may be interesting but that is over one year away.
07-03-2018, 11:59 AM
#467
A typical US family used to have a SUV and a sedan: SUV for long rides, sedan for everyday commute and errands.Even if it's a quite old model, TLX is a nice car to drive. It's no way below a BMW 320 for example that is at least 7k more expensive if you add the options a TLX has. Plus the TLX interior is sooo quite! Love it!
07-03-2018, 12:11 PM
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07-03-2018, 12:23 PM
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-27.9% doesn't seem that bad, considering sedan sales in general are trending downwards and the TLX is likely in its second last year of production. Hell, even 3G TL sales figures dropped after the MMC, steadily. This doesn't seem unusual at all
07-03-2018, 01:53 PM
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It's early but the RDX seems like a big winner. Bodes well for the next gen TLX I would think although I don't know that a new RDX wouldn't look good in my garage in place of the TLX...
07-03-2018, 03:11 PM
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June 2017 vs June 2018 sales
Acura TLX = 3,175 --> 2,290 (-27.87%)
Audi A4 = 3,273 --> 3,893 (+18.94%)
BMW 3 series = 5,123 --> 3,551 (-30.69%)
BMW 4 series = 4,494 --> 3,409 (-24.14%)
Infiniti Q50 = 3,224 --> 2,631 (-18.39%)
Infiniti Q60 = 851 --> 591 (-30.55%)
Lexus ES = 4,666 --> 3,592 (-23.02%)
Lexus IS = 2,103 --> 2,017 (-4.09%)
Lincoln MKZ = 2,240 --> 1,824 (-18.57%)
Lincoln Continental = 973 --> 546 (-43.88%)
Mercedes C Class = 7,116 --> 5,742 (-19.31%)
07-03-2018, 03:12 PM
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07-04-2018, 05:52 AM
#473
Racer
And the Audi A4
June 2017 vs June 2018 sales
Acura TLX = 3,175 --> 2,290 (-27.87%)
Audi A4 = 3,273 --> 3,893 (+18.94%)
BMW 3 series = 5,123 --> 3,551 (-30.69%)
BMW 4 series = 4,494 --> 3,409 (-24.14%)
Infiniti Q50 = 3,224 --> 2,631 (-18.39%)
Infiniti Q60 = 851 --> 591 (-30.55%)
Lexus ES = 4,666 --> 3,592 (-23.02%)
Lexus IS = 2,103 --> 2,017 (-4.09%)
Lincoln MKZ = 2,240 --> 1,824 (-18.57%)
Lincoln Continental = 973 --> 546 (-43.88%)
Mercedes C Class = 7,116 --> 5,742 (-19.31%)
June 2017 vs June 2018 sales
Acura TLX = 3,175 --> 2,290 (-27.87%)
Audi A4 = 3,273 --> 3,893 (+18.94%)
BMW 3 series = 5,123 --> 3,551 (-30.69%)
BMW 4 series = 4,494 --> 3,409 (-24.14%)
Infiniti Q50 = 3,224 --> 2,631 (-18.39%)
Infiniti Q60 = 851 --> 591 (-30.55%)
Lexus ES = 4,666 --> 3,592 (-23.02%)
Lexus IS = 2,103 --> 2,017 (-4.09%)
Lincoln MKZ = 2,240 --> 1,824 (-18.57%)
Lincoln Continental = 973 --> 546 (-43.88%)
Mercedes C Class = 7,116 --> 5,742 (-19.31%)
I’m on vacation in Tampa and rented an A4 through Silvercar as an extended test drive. First impressions is that it’s very nice. But it does have some turbo lag that’s a little annoying. The interior is great though. Really nice. People are buying this car. Clear and simple.
07-04-2018, 07:07 AM
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Most luxury sedans are down. The general population doesn't want them anymore. Acura has responded well by making a CUV and a SUV luxury buyers want. Whether we want to admit it or not, Acura is a SUV company and has been for some years now. I'm not a CUV/SUV person, but the RDX looks pretty damned good inside and out. It gives me a little hope for the future of Acura sedans.
07-04-2018, 07:54 AM
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Acura is definitely advancing in building CUV/SUV. With the new RDX, they nailed it!
Now it's time to bring 3 more
1. CDX
2. MDX Coupe (aka ZDX) with more options
3. A true 7 seater (QX80, GLS, LX or similar)
With the current RDX and MDX, Acura will have a great lineup.
Now it's time to bring 3 more
1. CDX
2. MDX Coupe (aka ZDX) with more options
3. A true 7 seater (QX80, GLS, LX or similar)
With the current RDX and MDX, Acura will have a great lineup.
07-04-2018, 07:56 AM
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07-04-2018, 06:08 PM
#478
And the Audi A4
June 2017 vs June 2018 sales
Acura TLX = 3,175 --> 2,290 (-27.87%)
Audi A4 = 3,273 --> 3,893 (+18.94%)
BMW 3 series = 5,123 --> 3,551 (-30.69%)
BMW 4 series = 4,494 --> 3,409 (-24.14%)
Infiniti Q50 = 3,224 --> 2,631 (-18.39%)
Infiniti Q60 = 851 --> 591 (-30.55%)
Lexus ES = 4,666 --> 3,592 (-23.02%)
Lexus IS = 2,103 --> 2,017 (-4.09%)
Lincoln MKZ = 2,240 --> 1,824 (-18.57%)
Lincoln Continental = 973 --> 546 (-43.88%)
Mercedes C Class = 7,116 --> 5,742 (-19.31%)
June 2017 vs June 2018 sales
Acura TLX = 3,175 --> 2,290 (-27.87%)
Audi A4 = 3,273 --> 3,893 (+18.94%)
BMW 3 series = 5,123 --> 3,551 (-30.69%)
BMW 4 series = 4,494 --> 3,409 (-24.14%)
Infiniti Q50 = 3,224 --> 2,631 (-18.39%)
Infiniti Q60 = 851 --> 591 (-30.55%)
Lexus ES = 4,666 --> 3,592 (-23.02%)
Lexus IS = 2,103 --> 2,017 (-4.09%)
Lincoln MKZ = 2,240 --> 1,824 (-18.57%)
Lincoln Continental = 973 --> 546 (-43.88%)
Mercedes C Class = 7,116 --> 5,742 (-19.31%)
07-04-2018, 10:25 PM
#479
Racer
07-05-2018, 12:25 AM
#480
i had plans today that took us on an hour drive each way and in some major interstates where I could really open up the A4 rental I have. I have to say it: this car drives great. I have it two more days and I’m looking forward to driving it even more. The tech is also fantastic in this car. It’s confusing since no one went over anything with me, but it’s definitely high tech. Love the virtual cockpit and having the Navi on it.
Even my wife, who almost never says anything about cars, mentioned the other day how much nicer my A4 rides vs. her Camry.