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Old 09-27-2016, 04:48 PM
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New TLX vs 2006 TL

I have a 2006 TL with 115,000 miles. In the last year I have spent $3,000 on the 105,000 service, new brakes all around and new alternator.

I'm thinking of a new TLX advanced to get all the safety features.

What do you think?

Also, my TL uses regular gas. Would the TLX run OK on regular?

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I'm pretty sure you were supposed to be using premium this whole time
I think if you're okay with a car payment, go for it, the TLX is a very great car.
But I also think the 06 still holds its own in looks and performance for what it is.
Is it a 6mT?
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If you appreciate a car that does not vibrate on a highway, has a transmission with a mind of its own, has smooth, lag-free, intuitive and feature-rich entertainment system this might not be a car for you.
Some of the major quirks with the tranny were resolved in newer models, but it is far from smooth and perfect even for 2017 model year. As far as the vibrations, the TLX is going onto the 3rd year, and Acura is clueless on how to fix it. the entertainment system hasn't changed in 3 years and at this point, it is inferior to the one that Honda puts into Civics and Accords.

I would carefully read opinions and complaints on this forum to make sure that you have a better understanding on what kind of car the TLX is.


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I traded my 06 TL with 129,000 miles (I think). Although I still love my TL and miss it really badly, the TLX is a nice upgrade. I don't have any of the issues that others are complaining about, but I suggest you take one on an extended test drive and see if you like the driving dynamics and the infotainment system.

Also, as stated before, your TL requires premium just like the TLX.
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Also, as stated before, your TL requires premium just like the TLX.
Acura "recommends" premium fuel for the TL and TLX. It is not required.


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I stand corrected.
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Acura "recommends" premium fuel for the TL and TLX. It is not required.


2006 TL requires premium fuel only. It is not the recommendation, but the requirement. I know I have the car.
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Exactly...if it was suggested I'm sure I might have tempted fate when gas was over $4 a gallon.
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Originally Posted by mlody
2006 TL requires premium fuel only. It is not the recommendation, but the requirement. I know I have the car.
2006 TL owners manual, page 176 @ http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...u/TL0606OM.pdf says it's a "recommendation" not a requirement. Maybe Honda doesn't know the difference between the words "recommend" and "require," and are using them interchangeably?

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LMAO...
we recommend you drink water or milk. drinking draino may lead to death but we do not require you to drink milk or water. Do whatever.




That's crazy I guess they were uncertain about how to word it so people that didn't want to buy a car that REQUIRED premium would still buy it, but they still wanted to kinda send a message about running regular.
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Your 06 is 10 years old - car safety has improved quite a bit over the past decade. That would be my biggest consideration (whether you get another Acura or any other new car with advanced safety features) - and you've passed the 100k mark which means you're likely going to be looking at spending more on maintenance/repairs - it may be time to sell the TL and move on. I've never driven an 06 TL so I can't offer any comparison but I'll wager you'll like the ride comfort and quietness of the TLX - it's a nice cruiser. As noted earlier it's not a perfect car and has it's quirks however every car does - regardless of what you spend.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:02 AM
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....and you've passed the 100k mark which means you're likely going to be looking at spending more on maintenance/repairs - it may be time to sell the TL and move on.
What other maintenance/repairs could there be? OP said he did the 105K service which is probably the timing belt, spark plugs, water pump. Did the brakes. Suspension?

Let's say OP needs new shocks, ball joints, bushings, etc. That's what, $2,000 maybe? If the car is otherwise in perfectly fine operating and cosmetic condition, I'd rather spend $2,000 and run the car for another 50,000 miles or so vs spending $30K+ on a new car. I'd keep it until we get info on the 2G TLX, then decide what to do: buy last model year and MMC of 1G TLX or buy 2G TLX
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my '06 is paid off and a friend destroyed the engine.
I swapped in new engine for less than $2k and I'm still coming out ahead!
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agreed....my 07 has 226,000 miles and running pretty well. Seems like if you just did all of the maintenance you should enjoy what you paid in. You are correct that the safety of the new TLX is something to consider but I still love the look and ride of my TL. At the very least I would wait for the refresh coming next year
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I never should have gotten rid of my 04...it was properly sorted and I had a spiritual and emotional connection to it.
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Originally Posted by quantum7
agreed....my 07 has 226,000 miles and running pretty well. Seems like if you just did all of the maintenance you should enjoy what you paid in. You are correct that the safety of the new TLX is something to consider but I still love the look and ride of my TL. At the very least I would wait for the refresh coming next year
Didnt the TLX recieve poorer crash testing results than the TL?
if so, TLX isnt any safer than a TL
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I stand corrected; the TL had 4 star crash ratings, while the new TLX has 5 stars
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yeah but maybe crash tests used to be harder to get good marks on
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Originally Posted by AZuser
What other maintenance/repairs could there be? OP said he did the 105K service which is probably the timing belt, spark plugs, water pump. Did the brakes. Suspension?

Let's say OP needs new shocks, ball joints, bushings, etc. That's what, $2,000 maybe? If the car is otherwise in perfectly fine operating and cosmetic condition, I'd rather spend $2,000 and run the car for another 50,000 miles or so vs spending $30K+ on a new car. I'd keep it until we get info on the 2G TLX, then decide what to do: buy last model year and MMC of 1G TLX or buy 2G TLX
Mechanical stuff wears out over time/usage - regardless of how well it was built. My last Honda rolled over 100k and the power window motor in the drivers door went out (with the window down - in the rain), the AC started slowly leaking Freon, the radiator started leaking, etc. Sure it's still cheaper to fix those things and keep it but its also a pain in the arse to have to visit the repair shop. Some cars will hold up better than others based upon how you drive and where you drive and luck of the draw etc - but my experience (three Accords over 100k) is that older cars with high mileage require more time at the shop than a new(er) car.
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That's a million percent true...
nothing that'll leave you stranded, per se...
but there are tons of little nuances that require attention and love after 100K...
I've had 2 TL's over 100K and it was annoying and both had similar things fail.
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I would stay with the TL.

I upgraded from a 3G TL to a 4G because I really needed AWD especially when I go skiing up north, but other than that there is not much to justify upgrading unless you're rich and don't care about money.

What safety features are you referring to that the TLX has but the TL doesn't, the lane depart alert thing? The TL already has abs, traction control, stability control, front side and overhead airbags, it's not like we're talking about a car from the 80s.
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If you anticipate spending more than the car is worth on repairs/service and can afford the cost of a new car, that is a better investment.
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Originally Posted by sbillard
If you anticipate spending more than the car is worth on repairs/service and can afford the cost of a new car, that is a better investment.
^ Agreed to an extent. If you have a "3G TL" that needs 105K service, new tires, brakes, etc that amounts to nearly 3K and you have the worry about the trans going out. Instead you can put that 3K of "maintenance money" plus the value of the "3G TL" to buy a new TLX. All said and done you can walk away with a nicely equipped TLX for under 27K. ( 5K for TL, 3K maintenance money on 35K or less TLX)
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That's some good math...
I also think you have to factor in time though...
because the $3000 spent for maintenance might get you another 10 years of ZERO spent on maintenance (okay, tires oil pads)...
which means you're still winning in a major way.
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The way I look at it: I only buy a new car because I want one, not because it makes sense economically (it rarely does).
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thats the mentality I've tried to avoid...
but I fell for it.
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i'm just too poor to buy cars because of wants.
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Justin, you are too smart to buy new cars.
you are not too poor. You are 1/2 asian so you are always 1/2 "broke" but never really BROKE.
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lol i bought the TL because it made sense economically.
planned for 10 years to own.
4 more years to go! well, almost 3 now
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and knowing you...
at 10 years you'll probably just buy another air freshener for it and set out for another 10.
How cool would the antique plate be on the TL?

Know what smells better than new car smell?
the smell of cheddar in your bank and under your pillow.
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fuggin swap engines and go!
will never die

and, no car payment forever. so win!
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You have no idea just how wise you are.
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
You have no idea just how wise you are.
I learned from you...

Now, keep me away from CTS-Vs
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LOL...
so the student became the teacher and the teacher became the dumbass!
i hate car payments!
but i dont hate the power, I admit.
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Originally Posted by wlkeel
The way I look at it: I only buy a new car because I want one, not because it makes sense economically (it rarely does).
Egg-zactly.

My wife and I have purchased 4 new cars over the past 3 years. We're about as dumb as you can be. Thankfully, unless my TLX blows up, I think we're done for 4 or 5 years.
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That's some good math...
I also think you have to factor in time though...
because the $3000 spent for maintenance might get you another 10 years of ZERO spent on maintenance (okay, tires oil pads)...
which means you're still winning in a major way.
Even if that $3000 in repairs only got you 3-5 yrs with zero future major maintenance, you'd be winning even more if you invest that $27,000 into an index fund or something.

For example, average annual return of Vanguard Value Index fund over past 15 yrs is 5.6% (YTD return is 9.11%). At a 5.6% return, in 3 yrs, that $27,000 would become $31,794. In 4 yrs, it would become $33,575. In 5 yrs, it would become $35,455.

Better off spending that $3000 to fix car and drive it for next 3-5 yrs and invest that $27,000. At the end of that 3-5 yr period, you'd be way way ahead... even after deducting initial $3000 to fix car.

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fuggin swap engines and go!
will never die

and, no car payment forever. so win!
Same plan for my Ranger. When the engine dies, 130K miles so far, V8 crate motor will replace it.
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Even if that $3000 in repairs only got you 3-5 yrs with zero future major maintenance, you'd be winning even more if you invest that $27,000 into an index fund or something.

For example, average annual return of Vanguard Value Index fund over past 15 yrs is 5.6% (YTD return is 9.11%). At a 5.6% return, in 3 yrs, that $27,000 would become $31,794. In 4 yrs, it would become $33,575. In 5 yrs, it would become $35,455.

Better off spending that $3000 to fix car and drive it for next 3-5 yrs and invest that $27,000. At the end of that 3-5 yr period, you'd be way way ahead... even after deducting initial $3000 to fix car.
Bro, my head is spinning, are you saying I did good buy buying a slightly used luxury car?

LOL...
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
Mechanical stuff wears out over time/usage - regardless of how well it was built. My last Honda rolled over 100k and the power window motor in the drivers door went out (with the window down - in the rain), the AC started slowly leaking Freon, the radiator started leaking, etc. Sure it's still cheaper to fix those things and keep it but its also a pain in the arse to have to visit the repair shop. Some cars will hold up better than others based upon how you drive and where you drive and luck of the draw etc - but my experience (three Accords over 100k) is that older cars with high mileage require more time at the shop than a new(er) car.
Other than the motor/trans/shocks/brakes (which are a whole different story due to converting the car to a 3.7 and manual trans ) everything on my TL is original and its got 650k miles on it. Ac, windows etc all original and work just fine.


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