LED Turn Signals
#1
LED Turn Signals
I've had my TLX for about a month now and I love it. The only thing I have done to the car was convert the rear turn signals to LED using VLED's v3 Triton system. They are amazing and are very bright. Anyway I wanted to know if anyone knew the exact bulb size for the front turn signals, I also want to convert those to LED but I can't seem to find any information about the bulb other than it being listed as pwy24. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, I've searched the forum but couldn't seem to find anything. Thanks.
#2
I've had my TLX for about a month now and I love it. The only thing I have done to the car was convert the rear turn signals to LED using VLED's v3 Triton system. They are amazing and are very bright. Anyway I wanted to know if anyone knew the exact bulb size for the front turn signals, I also want to convert those to LED but I can't seem to find any information about the bulb other than it being listed as pwy24. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, I've searched the forum but couldn't seem to find anything. Thanks.
#3
Burning Brakes
I've had my TLX for about a month now and I love it. The only thing I have done to the car was convert the rear turn signals to LED using VLED's v3 Triton system. They are amazing and are very bright. Anyway I wanted to know if anyone knew the exact bulb size for the front turn signals, I also want to convert those to LED but I can't seem to find any information about the bulb other than it being listed as pwy24. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, I've searched the forum but couldn't seem to find anything. Thanks.
#4
the owners manual was no help. It lists rear turn signal as "21w" but I know it's a 7440 bulb. Acura usually uses 1157 for front turn signal but the TLX has a different bulb that I have never seen before.
I haven't converted the backup lights yet, but I do plan on doing so. They're too dim
I haven't converted the backup lights yet, but I do plan on doing so. They're too dim
#5
Senior Moderator
I replaced mine with 30W 7440/3 Cree LEDs that put out 720 Lumens. They are nice, and bright; exactly what I wanted. They have a Cree LED facing rearward, and 4 small LEDs facing forward that bounce of a cone shaped reflector. They look, and function so well that my wife wanted them in her MDX as well.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
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#7
Burning Brakes
I replaced mine with 30W 7440/3 Cree LEDs that put out 720 Lumens. They are nice, and bright; exactly what I wanted. They have a Cree LED facing rearward, and 4 small LEDs facing forward that bounce of a cone shaped reflector. They look, and function so well that my wife wanted them in her MDX as well.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
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#8
Intermediate
I replaced mine with 30W 7440/3 Cree LEDs that put out 720 Lumens. They are nice, and bright; exactly what I wanted. They have a Cree LED facing rearward, and 4 small LEDs facing forward that bounce of a cone shaped reflector. They look, and function so well that my wife wanted them in her MDX as well.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
I changed out the trunk, and door panels to high power 5W LED's as well. Those are just 194 bulbs.
Not sure about the turn signals as I don't want them to flash any faster than stock, and I am not sure I want to use resistors.
#9
Drifting
No hyperflash? Any pics of the lights in action?
#10
Photos! :-)
#11
I just installed 194's in the front doors and trunk. Also did the reverse lights in these 1000 lumen high output 6k 6K WHITE HIGH OUTPUT 21 LED BACK-UP LIGHT 7440 1000LM | 1 PAIR
As far as the rear turn signals, the V3 wont fit, as there is no room behind the taillights to mount the bulbs or control boxes. Instead, i installed these RED PLATINUM 21 LED TURN SIGNAL BRAKE LIGHT BULBS 7443 7444 7440 | 1 PAIR - 7443 - 7440 LED - Shop Bulb # and used resistors with them. I used these resistors, MORIMOTO HD LOAD RESISTORS | 1 PAIR - Turn Signal Resistors - Resistors.
You'll need to remove the taillights (Remove 2 caps, 2 bolts, then pop out the lights) Install the bulb in the original socket, and now if you don't want the hyper blinking, you'll need to install the resistors. Again, no room behind the taillights, so you'll need to pull back the trunk lining behind the taillights, and pull the wire harness through to inside the trunk. To locate the correct wires ( if i remember correctly, the drivers side is blue, and passenger is orange) pull back the wire loom, and tap into the correct wires using the wire taps included with the resistors. On the drivers side, ground the resistor to one of the bolts used for the manual gas tank pop, and on the passenger side use the factory ground bolt used for other grounds. Use some double sided sticky tape to secure the resistors to the car (metal part only, these resistors can get hot and you don't want to melt anything!) Now pull the wire harness back through, and reseal the seal (just line up the grooves on the seal correctly, very easy) and reinstall the taillights. Now you've got LED turn signals with no hyper blink!
As far as the rear turn signals, the V3 wont fit, as there is no room behind the taillights to mount the bulbs or control boxes. Instead, i installed these RED PLATINUM 21 LED TURN SIGNAL BRAKE LIGHT BULBS 7443 7444 7440 | 1 PAIR - 7443 - 7440 LED - Shop Bulb # and used resistors with them. I used these resistors, MORIMOTO HD LOAD RESISTORS | 1 PAIR - Turn Signal Resistors - Resistors.
You'll need to remove the taillights (Remove 2 caps, 2 bolts, then pop out the lights) Install the bulb in the original socket, and now if you don't want the hyper blinking, you'll need to install the resistors. Again, no room behind the taillights, so you'll need to pull back the trunk lining behind the taillights, and pull the wire harness through to inside the trunk. To locate the correct wires ( if i remember correctly, the drivers side is blue, and passenger is orange) pull back the wire loom, and tap into the correct wires using the wire taps included with the resistors. On the drivers side, ground the resistor to one of the bolts used for the manual gas tank pop, and on the passenger side use the factory ground bolt used for other grounds. Use some double sided sticky tape to secure the resistors to the car (metal part only, these resistors can get hot and you don't want to melt anything!) Now pull the wire harness back through, and reseal the seal (just line up the grooves on the seal correctly, very easy) and reinstall the taillights. Now you've got LED turn signals with no hyper blink!
#12
Burning Brakes
I just installed 194's in the front doors and trunk. Also did the reverse lights in these 1000 lumen high output 6k 6K WHITE HIGH OUTPUT 21 LED BACK-UP LIGHT 7440 1000LM | 1 PAIR
As far as the rear turn signals, the V3 wont fit, as there is no room behind the taillights to mount the bulbs or control boxes. Instead, i installed these RED PLATINUM 21 LED TURN SIGNAL BRAKE LIGHT BULBS 7443 7444 7440 | 1 PAIR - 7443 - 7440 LED - Shop Bulb # and used resistors with them. I used these resistors, MORIMOTO HD LOAD RESISTORS | 1 PAIR - Turn Signal Resistors - Resistors.
You'll need to remove the taillights (Remove 2 caps, 2 bolts, then pop out the lights) Install the bulb in the original socket, and now if you don't want the hyper blinking, you'll need to install the resistors. Again, no room behind the taillights, so you'll need to pull back the trunk lining behind the taillights, and pull the wire harness through to inside the trunk. To locate the correct wires ( if i remember correctly, the drivers side is blue, and passenger is orange) pull back the wire loom, and tap into the correct wires using the wire taps included with the resistors. On the drivers side, ground the resistor to one of the bolts used for the manual gas tank pop, and on the passenger side use the factory ground bolt used for other grounds. Use some double sided sticky tape to secure the resistors to the car (metal part only, these resistors can get hot and you don't want to melt anything!) Now pull the wire harness back through, and reseal the seal (just line up the grooves on the seal correctly, very easy) and reinstall the taillights. Now you've got LED turn signals with no hyper blink!
As far as the rear turn signals, the V3 wont fit, as there is no room behind the taillights to mount the bulbs or control boxes. Instead, i installed these RED PLATINUM 21 LED TURN SIGNAL BRAKE LIGHT BULBS 7443 7444 7440 | 1 PAIR - 7443 - 7440 LED - Shop Bulb # and used resistors with them. I used these resistors, MORIMOTO HD LOAD RESISTORS | 1 PAIR - Turn Signal Resistors - Resistors.
You'll need to remove the taillights (Remove 2 caps, 2 bolts, then pop out the lights) Install the bulb in the original socket, and now if you don't want the hyper blinking, you'll need to install the resistors. Again, no room behind the taillights, so you'll need to pull back the trunk lining behind the taillights, and pull the wire harness through to inside the trunk. To locate the correct wires ( if i remember correctly, the drivers side is blue, and passenger is orange) pull back the wire loom, and tap into the correct wires using the wire taps included with the resistors. On the drivers side, ground the resistor to one of the bolts used for the manual gas tank pop, and on the passenger side use the factory ground bolt used for other grounds. Use some double sided sticky tape to secure the resistors to the car (metal part only, these resistors can get hot and you don't want to melt anything!) Now pull the wire harness back through, and reseal the seal (just line up the grooves on the seal correctly, very easy) and reinstall the taillights. Now you've got LED turn signals with no hyper blink!
For the backup lights, just change out what's there with these? 1000 Lumen? I guess heat is no concern? Personally, I think I will just change out the backup lights. Still need to investigate the trunk light. Thanks again.
#13
Senior Moderator
With the electronic tranny, you can't just put it in ACC II, pull the e-brake, and put it in reverse. As soon as you open the door, it goes back to Park. Since it is drizzling, the wife wasn't interested in the assist, so I took pics of the MDX.
The bulbs were less than $20 on fleabay.
The trunk light is actually white, but my cell phone made it look blue. It is the typical white LED hue. These were only a few bucks
The bulbs were less than $20 on fleabay.
The trunk light is actually white, but my cell phone made it look blue. It is the typical white LED hue. These were only a few bucks
Last edited by Mr Hyde; 12-01-2014 at 08:12 PM.
#14
Cheers
#15
Burning Brakes
With the electronic tranny, you can't just put it in ACC II, pull the e-brake, and put it in reverse. As soon as you open the door, it goes back to Park. Since it is drizzling, the wife wasn't interested in the assist, so I took pics of the MDX.
The bulbs were less than $20 on fleabay.
The trunk light is actually white, but my cell phone made it look blue. It is the typical white LED hue. These were only a few bucks
The bulbs were less than $20 on fleabay.
The trunk light is actually white, but my cell phone made it look blue. It is the typical white LED hue. These were only a few bucks
Trunk light looks pretty good too.
#16
Racer
As far as the rear turn signals, the V3 wont fit, as there is no room behind the taillights to mount the bulbs or control boxes. Instead, i installed these RED PLATINUM 21 LED TURN SIGNAL BRAKE LIGHT BULBS 7443 7444 7440 | 1 PAIR - 7443 - 7440 LED - Shop Bulb # and used resistors with them. I used these resistors, MORIMOTO HD LOAD RESISTORS | 1 PAIR - Turn Signal Resistors - Resistors.
#17
I did use the Triton system, at first I was stuck because as others have said there is no space behind the tail light.
I had to mount the v3 box by removing the bumper (not the whole bumper, just enough to get my hands in there) and was then able to mount the v3 box down there. I'll see if I can post pictures later.
I had to mount the v3 box by removing the bumper (not the whole bumper, just enough to get my hands in there) and was then able to mount the v3 box down there. I'll see if I can post pictures later.
#18
oh I also forgot to mention that after very heavy research I found that the front turn signals are a new type of bulb manufactured only by Sylvania. Only a few cars have them,mostly Volkswagen and Audi. So as far as i know there is no decent LED bulb for the front turn signals on the TLX
A big thanks to Acura for using the most obscure bulb they could get their hands on.
A big thanks to Acura for using the most obscure bulb they could get their hands on.
#19
LEDS don't give off much heat, plus reverse lights aren't on but only a few seconds, which is what these particular LED bulbs were designed for (The HO Version). If there used in a different application (running lights or turn signals) you will void there warranty. They have turn signal and running light applications, just not ones that are 1000 lumens.
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#21
Found some awesome LED's for the front turn signals, there called WeissLicht LED. They use white CREE Leds, have a lifetime warranty, and require no resistors, so these are plug and play with no hyper flash. These bulbs are commonly used in BMW and Audi, and the size is PW24W
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.
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#23
Racer
Found some awesome LED's for the front turn signals, there called WeissLicht LED. They use white CREE Leds, have a lifetime warranty, and require no resistors, so these are plug and play with no hyper flash. These bulbs are commonly used in BMW and Audi, and the size is PW24W
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.
#25
#26
Whoever told you that is incorrect, installing led bulbs does not void any type of warranty. If you tried to somehow change the jewel eye LEDs, that would invalidate the warranty on the headlight as you have to modify the original component. But just changing an incandescent bulb to led bulb will not void any warranty
#27
§ 816.120¹
Turn signals
Each of the following is a requirement for turn signals as described:
(1) Turn signals shall be so constructed and located on a vehicle as to give a signal of intention to turn right or left.
(2) The following types of turn signals shall show light in the direction indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights shall show light to the front of the vehicle.
(b) Rear turn signal lights shall show light to the rear of the vehicle.
(3) The following types of turn signals shall have the color of light indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights may be white or amber.
(b) Rear turn signal lights may be red, amber or yellow. If the rear turn signal is red, the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the turn signal is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080 (Taillights).
(4) Turn signals shall be understandable in normal sunlight and at a distance of 500 feet at night.
(5) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) must be mounted, adjusted and aimed in accordance with the standards adopted by the Department of Transportation.
(6) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) and any part for such turn signals that tends to change the original design or performance must be of a type that complies with standards adopted by the department under ORS 816.010 (Authority to adopt and enforce standards for lighting equipment). [1983 c.338 §458 (9); 1985 c.16 §240 (9); 1985 c.69 §1 (9); 1985 c.71 §4 (9); 1985 c.393 §13 (9); 1985 c.420 §6 (9); 1997 c.492 §3; 2003 c.158 §25]
#28
Racer
Here's the Oregon revised statutes on turn signals
§ 816.120¹
Turn signals
Each of the following is a requirement for turn signals as described:
(1) Turn signals shall be so constructed and located on a vehicle as to give a signal of intention to turn right or left.
(2) The following types of turn signals shall show light in the direction indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights shall show light to the front of the vehicle.
(b) Rear turn signal lights shall show light to the rear of the vehicle.
(3) The following types of turn signals shall have the color of light indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights may be white or amber.
(b) Rear turn signal lights may be red, amber or yellow. If the rear turn signal is red, the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the turn signal is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080 (Taillights).
(4) Turn signals shall be understandable in normal sunlight and at a distance of 500 feet at night.
(5) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) must be mounted, adjusted and aimed in accordance with the standards adopted by the Department of Transportation.
(6) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) and any part for such turn signals that tends to change the original design or performance must be of a type that complies with standards adopted by the department under ORS 816.010 (Authority to adopt and enforce standards for lighting equipment). [1983 c.338 §458 (9); 1985 c.16 §240 (9); 1985 c.69 §1 (9); 1985 c.71 §4 (9); 1985 c.393 §13 (9); 1985 c.420 §6 (9); 1997 c.492 §3; 2003 c.158 §25]
§ 816.120¹
Turn signals
Each of the following is a requirement for turn signals as described:
(1) Turn signals shall be so constructed and located on a vehicle as to give a signal of intention to turn right or left.
(2) The following types of turn signals shall show light in the direction indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights shall show light to the front of the vehicle.
(b) Rear turn signal lights shall show light to the rear of the vehicle.
(3) The following types of turn signals shall have the color of light indicated:
(a) Front turn signal lights may be white or amber.
(b) Rear turn signal lights may be red, amber or yellow. If the rear turn signal is red, the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the turn signal is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080 (Taillights).
(4) Turn signals shall be understandable in normal sunlight and at a distance of 500 feet at night.
(5) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) must be mounted, adjusted and aimed in accordance with the standards adopted by the Department of Transportation.
(6) Turn signals that are required under ORS 816.320 (Lighting equipment required for motor vehicles) and 816.330 (Operation without required lighting equipment) and any part for such turn signals that tends to change the original design or performance must be of a type that complies with standards adopted by the department under ORS 816.010 (Authority to adopt and enforce standards for lighting equipment). [1983 c.338 §458 (9); 1985 c.16 §240 (9); 1985 c.69 §1 (9); 1985 c.71 §4 (9); 1985 c.393 §13 (9); 1985 c.420 §6 (9); 1997 c.492 §3; 2003 c.158 §25]
#29
Doesn't look like it, amber/white rear, white front. You could always email them and ask though.
Heres a vender that sells cheaper ones, they don't use the CREE LEDs, or have a lifetime warranty, and not sure if resistors are needed, but they have a yellow front option.
Error Free PWY24W LED Bulbs For Audi Volkswagen Turn Signal Lights
Check my earlier post, V-Leds has Awesome rear RED led turn signals.
Heres a vender that sells cheaper ones, they don't use the CREE LEDs, or have a lifetime warranty, and not sure if resistors are needed, but they have a yellow front option.
Error Free PWY24W LED Bulbs For Audi Volkswagen Turn Signal Lights
Check my earlier post, V-Leds has Awesome rear RED led turn signals.
#31
#32
Door lights were changed, inside trunk light, reverse lights and rear turn signals. Everything that wasn't led from the factory is now. I explained the bulbs used in an earlier post in this thread
#33
Instructor
#34
2016 Acura TLX
Anyone use these?
Just bought a set for the parent's MDX to use as brake lights. Haven't had the chance to install them yet, but they seem pretty high quality. Has a 12 year warranty, and apparently they are the only street legal led bulbs. Trying to find a set in amber, but I don't think they make those yet. These are way cheaper than the tritons.
Just bought a set for the parent's MDX to use as brake lights. Haven't had the chance to install them yet, but they seem pretty high quality. Has a 12 year warranty, and apparently they are the only street legal led bulbs. Trying to find a set in amber, but I don't think they make those yet. These are way cheaper than the tritons.
#35
Racer
Anyone use these?
Amazon.com: Philips 12838REDB2 Red Exterior Vision LED Bulb (Pack of 2): Automotive
Just bought a set for the parent's MDX to use as brake lights. Haven't had the chance to install them yet, but they seem pretty high quality. Has a 12 year warranty, and apparently they are the only street legal led bulbs. Trying to find a set in amber, but I don't think they make those yet. These are way cheaper than the tritons.
Amazon.com: Philips 12838REDB2 Red Exterior Vision LED Bulb (Pack of 2): Automotive
Just bought a set for the parent's MDX to use as brake lights. Haven't had the chance to install them yet, but they seem pretty high quality. Has a 12 year warranty, and apparently they are the only street legal led bulbs. Trying to find a set in amber, but I don't think they make those yet. These are way cheaper than the tritons.
#36
Hi Silvaccordex01,
I just received the front turn signal LED bulbs from weisslicht and installed on bulb in the front left and I have hyper blinking only when u use the turn signal. When u turn on the hazards it does not hyperblink. did you put in resistors for the rear turn signal LED's? Just trying to trouble shoot why I am getting the hyperblink and u are not.
Thanks for the information about the bulbs and any help would be appreciated.
I just received the front turn signal LED bulbs from weisslicht and installed on bulb in the front left and I have hyper blinking only when u use the turn signal. When u turn on the hazards it does not hyperblink. did you put in resistors for the rear turn signal LED's? Just trying to trouble shoot why I am getting the hyperblink and u are not.
Thanks for the information about the bulbs and any help would be appreciated.
#37
I did not put in resistors in the front, but i did in the rear. The ones in the rear though are 6 ohm, and only cover 1 bulb per side, per v-leds description, so the fact i have them for the rear turn signals shouldn't be affecting the front. If you want to cover both front and rear signals you need the 3 ohm resistors, but shouldn't be needed, as those weisslicht bulbs should be error free. My suggestion would be to call the vendor you got the bulbs from, and see what they say. They will probably send you another set.
If you don't want to do that, do you have LED Turn signals in the rear? If so, you should just order some resistors in 3 ohm that cover front and rear. Install the resistors in the rear of the vehicle by the rear tail lights. If you just do front LED's, get the 6 ohm resistors, but still install in the rear of the vehicle.
If you don't want to do that, do you have LED Turn signals in the rear? If so, you should just order some resistors in 3 ohm that cover front and rear. Install the resistors in the rear of the vehicle by the rear tail lights. If you just do front LED's, get the 6 ohm resistors, but still install in the rear of the vehicle.
#38
Thanks for the information. I called the vendor (Bimmian) and he said I should replace the original flasher signal relay to an electronic flasher relay instead of adding resistors. I tried to find the relay for that in the car in the manual and I was not able to find it. On some of the newer cars they do not have relays for the signals anymore they may be built into the main computer controller. I even called Acura parts to see if they could find the relay for the signals and they were not able to find it in the parts catalog. Part of the issue may be that the car is still new and no one ordered that part yet. How difficult is it to add the resistors to the front if I were to go that route? Any help would be appreciated and thanks for getting back to me with the information.
#39
I'm surprised they wouldn't send you a new set, since there advertised to not cause any hyper blinking (or issues with error codes if you own a BMW)
As far as resistors, add them to the rear of the vehicle behind the rear tail lights. Much easier that way. Just follow the directions i posted earlier in this thread.
As far as resistors, add them to the rear of the vehicle behind the rear tail lights. Much easier that way. Just follow the directions i posted earlier in this thread.
#40
Intermediate
Found some awesome LED's for the front turn signals, there called WeissLicht LED. They use white CREE Leds, have a lifetime warranty, and require no resistors, so these are plug and play with no hyper flash. These bulbs are commonly used in BMW and Audi, and the size is PW24W
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.
WeissLicht LED Turn Signal Bulbs From bimmian.com
I ordered from these guys and they shipped in a day, and i received them in 3 working days from New York to Oregon.