Whiskers

Thanks, Was thinking about one as well. I had a G35 which worked well.

Rocketsfan

I've been following the Q50 since before its release. I'd be driving one if it hadn't been for all the issues I saw people having with the electronics.

Tonyware

Apparently according to Autoblog, the top 5 debuts at the NY auto show where:

1. Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG Coupe
2. Land Rover Discovery Vision Concept
3. Nissan Murano
4. Mazda MX-5 Miata 25th Anniv. Edtn.
5. Alfa Romeo 4C

Surprisingly enough the TLX didn't make the editor's list... didn't even make the list of "honorably mentioned" (yes, I went through the list twice to see if I missed anything):

Volkswagen Golf TDI SportWagen Concept
2015 Hyundai Sonata
2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible
2015 Dodge Challenger
2015 Toyota Camry
2015 BMW M4 Convertible
2015 Subaru Outback
2015 Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT
2015 Ford Focus Sedan
2015 Kia Sedona
E-Carriage
2015 Dodge Charger
Ford Transit Skyline Concept
2016 Audi A3 TDI Sportback
2015 Audi RS7 Dynamic Edition
2015 Maserati GranTurismo Centennial Edition
2015 Ford Focus Electric
2015 Scion FR-S Release Series

The article here: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/18/e...ork-auto-show/

I wonder if there are issues between Acura and Autoblog? I don't want to spread any rumors but the "average Joe", like yours truly, can't explain this any other way...

boe_d

Maybe they hate the beak too much to give it any honorable mention.

SeismicGuy

True--and if one looks good then dual looks better. Even if it is the phony dual exhausts on the 4th Gen TL. The stylists must have realized this otherwise why go to the trouble of making what is a single exhaust look like dual?

BEAR-AvHistory

Separate dual outlets because symmetrical looks better to the human eye

CGTSX2004

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Except we're not supposed be seeing them in the first place, so what's the point?

Colin

Wasn't somebody "uninvited" from Acura press events for constantly breaking embargoes? Maybe that was Jalopnik?

Treblig

Weather, I hear you, but once the car hits the dealership, give it a look see and take it for spin. Your biggest concerns may be confirmed, or

By the way, have you seen the posted picture of the white one....

Colin

We were always told that the reason for 'fake' dual exhausts was primarily for the functionality of dual mufflers. This allowed for more optimized exhaust flow with sufficient sound management. It also allowed for better packaging with two smaller mufflers in the 'dead' space behind the wheel well.

ostrich

I think that Autoblog is quite negative towards the TLX. Here's their review from the NY Show:

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/16/2...new-york-2014/

Interestingly, despite their negativity, the comments on this article were actually quite positive!

BEAR-AvHistory

Was talking about duals in general not specifically the hidden ones on the TLX which I don't like. Very inexpensive cars have bumper outlet duels think the TLX should also have them.

Rocket_man

If that is fake wood in the RLX Hybrid then it is the most convincing fake wood I've ever seen. I sat right there and looked at it and it had depth to it. If there is going to be fake wood then that is pretty good. It fooled me close up.

SeismicGuy

Exactly, plus "gruntier". My question was rhetorical.

mynameisjacob

I just realized that too... that car is the 4-cylinder model and they used dual exhaust on it... what a waste.

CGTSX2004

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Regardless of who it was, Acura's relationship with the mainstream car rags seems to not be great. The magazine's constantly diss on it (not entirely undeservedly), but never give it kudos when appropriate. And it appears that not just Jalopnik, but several car blogs have been banned from the Acura press fleet for violating their embargoes, so there are definitely some bitter people out there who seem to be shuffled around from publication to publication.

reddogTL

@CGTSX2004 how did you get interior pics and trunk pics? When I was there Saturday the blue TLX was locked.

In any case, I love the look of the new Q50S, more so than the new TLX. Minus all the problems the owners have been experiencing I couldn't get over the fact that its the same drivetrain the G37 has been using for the past few years. The same goes for the new Lexus IS. It's a polarizing new look for the IS but its the same damn drivetrain they've had for like 6+ years.

Colin

Wow, looks like the on-sale date has been pushed back to late summer.... Shades or RLX Hybrid.

BlueAc

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It's weird how you had so many problems with your car. My girl has been driving her Q50 for the last month and a half with no problems. Now the one thing I did notice was that the sticker price on hers was about $800 more than some of the others on the lot. The salesman said that there was a price increase on the later built models. I wonder if those cars had all the kinks worked out.

And on the topic of the TLX, I visited the NYIAS on Saturday. IMHO the new TLX looked like a grown up 3G TL. I found it to be rather boring and vanilla. If this was the 4th Gen TL then I would have been more excited, but for it to be the 5th Gen is some what depressing. To me it shows a lack of creativity from the Engineering Dept. It feels like they went backwards instead of going forward. You don't see Lexus and Audi trying to recapture the glory days of its older models. No, they are moving forward with bolder statement cars. I've been a TL driver since my '99 TL and without a major shake (i.e. Type S), I can safely say this will be my last.

KeithL

They were telling people at the NY show late summer. Very depressing that Acura can't hit dates.

Goosew

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they saw the backlash on this forum, and they're re-adding the lip kit from the prototype, and adding visible dual exhaust tips!.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

It pays to make friends with the right people. I was the last person to get to crawl around the car before they locked it up for good. I happened to be there and paid for early access, so it was before the public opening that day.

CGTSX2004

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D'oh...hopefully I will get a chance to test drive it before it goes on sale. If not, I may have to make my final decision without the test drive, which would be unfortunate.

weather

I am not surprised at all...I was told earlier this year from a very reliable source that the TLX would not be available in Canada until early September....seems this might have been true. Doesn't matter for me anymore...I am done being disappointed by Acura....Maybe I'll get a Rio with heated steering wheel, heated and cooled seats, folding mirrors and use the extra 25k to go on a trip down south next winter *lol*

docboy

Not good. Again, this a total tease. First Acura debuts a visually exciting prototype, and then they release a vanilla production model.

We even get emails saying the TLX "will be here end of May" and now we find out it's not coming out until late summer, which is what, August or September possibly?

Not a good start for the TLX. The above occurrences above clearly shows poor planning, mis-direction, and a lack of communication between Acura's divisions.

Treblig

Entirely possible. Hopefully it is equally probable.

ACCURATEin

Did anyone get the Acura STYLE magazine in the mail today?


I've been looking at the photos of the TLX and the visible mufflers tucked under/behind the bumper make me furious. It doesn't make any sense.

docboy

Meh, at this point "TLX" and "sense" do not belong together.

4dr4bangrAccord

Get the RLX.

weather

I wonder if Acura is getting kickbacks from other car companies for helping them sell more cars? They sure have succeeded in pushing me away.....and I considered myself a loyal customer.

Tonyware

I suspect the reason for the delay to ship the cars to the dealers is that there are lots of 2014 TLs still unsold. So maybe its the dealers that pushed for the delay so that they can clear their inventory with some crazy discounts during the summer months. Not every consumer knows that there is a TLX coming soon... but even if they do, a $5-$7 discount on the 2014s could clear that inventory.

However there is a side effect to all that.... Assuming that production has begun and there are a bunch of TLXs sitting in a huge parking lot somewhere in Ohio, you really want to buy a car that has been sitting in a lot in humid hot weather all summer long? I hope that is not the case (i.e. production hasn't started yet). Don't shoot! Just a thought!

internalaudit

I'm about to start a small service business and want to know how Acura has succeeded in pushing you away so maybe I can learn not to alienate my "loyal" customers.

Many thanks.

reddogTL

I dont know about where you guys live but here in NJ I have seen a LOT of 2014 TL commercials pushing aggressive lease pricing. It blankets several channels at prime time. The lease prices have been lower than usual. I remember laying in bed with my GF one night a couple of weeks ago and said yep this is because the TLX is about to debut. She actually got sick of seeing the TL commercials over and over lol

Goosew

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Hopefully this is not said girlfriend who will end up being impregnated by a GS350 F-sport running around town from other post!

Tonyware

But something deep inside me tells me that perhaps pushing to clear inventory isn't the only reason for the delay.

Perhaps some genius crunched some numbers and figured that if "we delay the TLX, current 4th gen owners whose leases are about to expire will be extending their leases for another 2-3-4 months until the TLX comes out... so we'll make some extra mula without selling a single new car yet"

(again, just a thought... based on a simple fact: somehow Acura dealers are beginning to "like" what corporate is doing for them... )

Acura_Dude

Rocketsfan

... but did anybody tell them the sweet new C-Class comes out in "late summer", too? :grin:

boe_d

I'm still going with someone's alarm went off, they checked their calendar and said - Oh yeah, I was supposed to design a new TLX. I'll draw it up on the commute to work.

Tonyware

Funny thing that jalopnik in a recent article writes that Ferrari is making journalists sign a contract that says they'll have to pay $70k if they break the embargo!

One way or another, the thing I have noticed about Acura (and I guess Honda) over the years is that they don't like to be hassled by journalists, professional or amature ones. Actually they don't even like to be hassled by anyone, just like TL owners

boe_d

I predict she will get impregnated BY a GS350 F-sport - just not in the way you are alluding to. She will be impregnated (near)by a whole bunch of cars as she will be in the backseat of a car in parking lot at the time.