Business Insider 2017 Car of the Year runner-up- Acura TLX

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Old 11-11-2017, 10:22 AM
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well deserved TLX Aspec!
Old 11-11-2017, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by steig
Agree, the interior and seats are great !
The interior is state of the art 15 years ago. The two screen implementation is poor, eliminating physical controls that shouldn't be eliminated and leaving in place a smorgasbord of buttons that are unnecessary. Look at an Audi A4/A5/S4/S5 with the LCD gauge cluster for a thoughtful, clean, modern, well-executed two-screen interior. Look at a Lexus IS for another example of an out of date, even worse interior than the TLX.

The B&O audio system is more capable than the original ELS in the 3G TL. The TLX? Uh, no.

The external cameras that Acura uses continue to be sub-par as well compared to the competition.

The TLX is not a horrible car -- but it is not top of its class or state of its art by any stretch of the imagination.

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Old 11-11-2017, 11:50 AM
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It's not rocket science. Every review or ranking has its own methodology. At the end of the day, it's your needs and resource available that matter. Like it or not, TLX is rated as one of the finalists and runner-ups for BI's annual car of the year contest. And here's' their methodology:
Our methodology is straightforward, based on basic questions:

Is there a strong business case for the vehicle? We are a business website, after all.
  • Did our reviewers agree that the vehicle should be included? We have to come to a consensus, even though we might disagree on some particulars.
  • Was the vehicle objectively excellent? There has to be a "Wow!" factor of some sort.
  • Did the vehicle stand out from the sea of competition, particularly when it comes to technology? A Car of the Year finalist has to be special, and we're also a technology website.
  • Can we strongly recommend buying or leasing the car? We demand to know whether we'd buy the vehicle ourselves, if we had the resources.
We reviewed and tested more vehicles than ever in 2017, thanks to transportation reporter Danielle Muoio and deputy editor Cadie Thompson joining our ranks. News editor Bryan Logan also lent a hand on the West Coast. We also took more photos, thanks to visual-features reporter Hollis Johnson, and we shot numerous videos and Facebook Lives with the assistance of associate producer Alexandra Appolonia as well as producers Justin Gmoser and Emma Fierberg. Our two main reviewers, Matt DeBord and Ben Zhang, also traveled far and wide to sample fantastic cars in their natural environment: the racetrack. Ben took a spin in a McLaren in Italy, and Matt went to Utah to be among the first journalists to drive the Le Mans-winning Ford GT.
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Maybe if Acura pays for a big enough add in the Penny Saver they can get car of the year! Kind of like when you see the ads for a movie and in HUGE letters it says "Best movie of the year!" and then in tiny print next it shows the source to be the First Baptist Pasadena Gazette.
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Old 11-11-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
The interior is state of the art 15 years ago. The two screen implementation is poor, eliminating physical controls that shouldn't be eliminated and leaving in place a smorgasbord of buttons that are unnecessary. Look at an Audi A4/A5/S4/S5 with the LCD gauge cluster for a thoughtful, clean, modern, well-executed two-screen interior. Look at a Lexus IS for another example of an out of date, even worse interior than the TLX.

The B&O audio system is more capable than the original ELS in the 3G TL. The TLX? Uh, no.

The external cameras that Acura uses continue to be sub-par as well compared to the competition.

The TLX is not a horrible car -- but it is not top of its class or state of its art by any stretch of the imagination.

I have the 2018 Acura TLX ASpec. The seats in this car are great. I previously owned a 2014 A4 SLine with sport package. The seats in the ASpec are better.
The screen implementation is not poor as you say. The dual screens are way better, I can use NAV , android auto/car play on one screen,while radio , hvac controls on other screen. Even the NAV Has the option to type in address' instead of using a dial and picking a letter. I also had the B & O system in the Audi. The Audi ELS system is great, especially the ability to store music on the hardrive.
I have owned several Luxury brands, the TLX ASPEC I currently have is the car I like the best, granted this is the newest.

This forum just seems strange with all the Acura haters.
My comments on the TLX ASPEC come from my own opinion, since I do own a TLX. I am not trying to justify my purchase or make myself feel better, if I didn't like this car or the interior I would trade it in for an A4 or something else. Don't get me wrong, the A4 was and is a great car, but so is the TLX.
​​​​​​As for transmision, the best auto transmission I ever drove was a Audi S4 with the 7 speed dual clutch, the car was a loaner.

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Old 11-11-2017, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by steig
I have the 2018 Acura TLX ASpec. The seats in this car are great. I previously owned a 2014 A4 SLine with sport package. The seats in the ASpec are better.
The screen implementation is not poor as you say. The dual screens are way better, I can use NAV , android auto/car play on one screen,while radio , hvac controls on other screen. Even the NAV Has the option to type in address' instead of using a dial and picking a letter. I also had the B & O system in the Audi. The Audi ELS system is great, especially the ability to store music on the hardrive.
The B9 A4 is what I am using as the benchmark, not the B8. I wasn't interested in the B8 at all. Audi upped their game substantially with the B9. Acura has been treading water now for 13 years. There is nothing the ELS can do that the B&O can't except play nearly non-existent dts Music CDs. But you can convert them to multichannel FLAC and enjoy them off of an SD card.

Seat comfort is to a great degree personal preference. The Audi and Acura seats are pretty comparable.

This forum just seems strange with all the Acura haters.
I'm not an Acura hater. 2 of my 3 cars are Acuras. I am also not an Acura apologist. They have not kept pace with the market, especially in their sedans. Their long term sales trends tell the tale nicely. Poor design decisions and product stagnation relative to their competition make the cars a disappointment to those of us who have owned them for a long time and expected continued advancement.
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Please, those who don't even have one tiny bit of "warm and fuzzy" feeling left about our beloved TLX, please move on. I am begging you. Please leave us alone and let us TLX enthusiasts live in our bliss of ignorance in this corner of cyberspace that's called "Acura Enthusiast Community". Amish people get to live in their no TV no technology society and we don't go in their back yards and criticize/scold them. Again, folks, use some common sense.
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Remember the great wheels on the TLX prototype?
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Remember the great wheels on the TLX prototype?
Yes. Loved those and also love the great wheels on the '18 TLX A-Spec.
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Yes. Loved those and also love the great wheels on the '18 TLX A-Spec.
The A Spec wheels are good looking. The others.... well lets just say we don't want to cause any upset now do we.
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Yes. Loved those and also love the great wheels on the '18 TLX A-Spec.
Think the wheels are very nice. Look very much like mine. If I said knockoffs the looking to get offended would be offended.

BTW Acura Honda history. TL for 6 years & 5 Honda's recommended to my daughters. Two still have their AWD Pilots. The word HATER is a nice politically correct word very easily used by people who disagree with you over something. HATE is another word that is used so much by the snowflakes it has lost all serious meaning.

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Think the wheels are very nice. Look very much like mine. If I said knockoffs the looking to get offended would be offended.

BTW Acura Honda history. TL for 6 years & 5 Honda's recommended to my daughters. Two still have their AWD Pilots. The word HATER is a nice politically correct word very easily used by people who disagree with you over something. HATE is another word that is used so much by the snowflakes it has lost all serious meaning.
well played, you managed to use both hater and snowflake in your philosophizing..
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well played, you managed to use both hater and snowflake in your philosophizing..
Its easy as the words are like co-joined twins.
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Keep it on topic or we'll close this one down. No politics or political overtones in the subforums.
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Indeed opinions are like AHs, but how they are expressed is equally important, regardless of what side of the equation you fall on. I can almost guarantee that no one is changing anyone's opinion of what they like
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Originally Posted by mapleloaf
Indeed opinions are like AHs, but how they are expressed is equally important, regardless of what side of the equation you fall on. I can almost guarantee that no one is changing anyone's opinion of what they like
...nor should they try.
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Originally Posted by mapleloaf
Indeed opinions are like AHs, but how they are expressed is equally important, regardless of what side of the equation you fall on. I can almost guarantee that no one is changing anyone's opinion of what they like
i hope it's ok to have some more fun with this analogy. Aren't all AHs are more similar than not? Where can you find two completely opposite AHs? I wish opinions were like AHs where "common grounds" could be easily found! Hahaha
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Where I live there are quite a few 4 cylinder TLXs on the road. It's a very good engine transmission pairing and with PAWS is really one of the better value for money buys in today's market. I realize that most car lovers on forums are bigger HP folks, but perhaps we should keep the 2.4 in mind when discussing the relative merits of the TLX.
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