Huskr84

It seems far-fetched to me (especially on the heels of the refresh this year), but an Acura person 'in the know' recently told me there are going to be "big changes" coming to the TLX next year. The only change he would identify, though, was they were scrapping current transmission. Has anyone else heard similar rumors?

Mr Hyde

Following typical cycles would mean no major changes until the 2020 model which would debut in 2019.

Doesn't make financial sense to make the changes they did for only 1 year, so I would say big changes are out until the next generation.

sinistah89

I think its going to be for the powertrain because the accord has the type R motor...acura is still using the 3.5 liter V6. They might actually do the 2.0T with a different tune than the 2018 accords.

Saintor

I don't think so and as much my TLX grew on me (it is a great daily car, * love it*), I don't expect the next saintor-mobile to be an Acura (lease will be up by DEC 2018).

boe_d

I'd love to think they are planning for bad sales and releasing the next gen earlier than the usual cycle. While I don't consider the current TLX a bad car, it just doesn't draw me to it over the Accord. I'm really hoping the next TLX excites me. I want to be excited about my next car.

losiglow

iTrader: (1)

Type-S with a 3.0L J-Series and a turbo! Build it right and it could still be plenty reliable. Give the top trim A6 and 335 a run for their money.

Yeah right......

AZuser

Maybe they'll put a 6MT in it for its final year. Type S?

Yeah, right. Who am I kidding.

They probably are referring to the 2nd gen TLX.

aIRpeACE

iTrader: (2)

yeah i heard too, it will be a type F with 600 hp and 8 wheels.

Mak P

It's sad, even Acura owners don't faith in Acura

kurtatx

Bidding to become a mod I see.

I knew it.

boe_d

I have faith they could make a good sedan if they fired the current designer. I've been a fan of Honda and Acura for ages. I'm not an apologist or a fanboy though - if I think something is wrong I won't bury my head in the sand and blame it on the stars.

AZuser

Their track record for the past 10 years speaks for itself.

jhb31

While I am not in the know crowd I do talk to the GM at my local dealership a lot due to buying so many vehicles. I did ask him about what to expect going forward and here is what he said. Acura is most likely bringing out a type S for every model in the near future. Not just the TLX. He said the TLX type S would most likely be a twin turbo v6 pushing close to 400hp. Time will tell if thats the case. I did ask if he thought it would be a 4cyl and he almost laughed at the question. He was spot on about the A-spec changes way before it came out.

StealthTL-S

I hope you are right Jhb31!!

fiatlux

Big changes: a new color, new software for the transmission, and a $800 price-bump.

You heard it here first.

CaliAtenza

This lines up with what I heard earlier this past summer as well. I didn't hear the bit about a Type S for every model though; that's interesting.

Speed_Racer

Whats more believable is what I was told by a regional Acura rep at the San Francisco auto show last month, that there will be an ASpec version for every model. That makes more sense for models across the board like the MDX and RDX. Can't see a Type S version of either anytime soon. As far as 2019, I'm thinking new colors (like Lunar Silver Metallic for the ASpec) and maybe LED tailights, with clear lenses and amber turn signals.

Treblig

What I heard was a twin turbo TypeS end of 2018.

ZipSpeed

I doubt we'll see any new powertrains or a Type S until 2019 at the earliest. Makes no sense to debut the new tech in the current TLX as its EOL in 1.5 years if we go by previous product cycles.

Mak P

I hope Acura put something info out there soon

graphicguy

As is typical, Acura (and Honda) keep any changes, current or future, close to the vest. I work with their engineering team in central OH, and have for quite a few years. They won’t spill the beans (matter of fact, they would not even say anything about the 2018 TLX refresh until the info was released to the trade rags).

So, any dealership that says they have the “inside track” on a model that is coming out in a year or two from now, I’d have to consider that information as dubious, at best.

Doesn’t make financial sense for any “major” changes from the ‘18 model for next year’s model. Might tweak options, colors, perhaps some software reflashes, but that’s going to be about it.

TacoBello

Nope. There will *not* be a Type S for every model. Guaranteed.

This is more accurate. I can foresee an A-Spec for every model, as it more or less a cosmetic and suspension upgrade over stock. To me, this is like the "F-Sport" package Lexus sells that I now see literally everywhere. Smart move, Acura. Though you should have done it 3 years ago.

I get the feeling the Type S would remain for the TLX, and potentially the 2G ILX. You may think I'm crazy (bear with me here) on the 2G ILX, due to how horrendously bad sales have been for it, but, Honda hinted at a "grand touring" and a "AWD" version of the Civic Type R eventually coming up. I am willing to bet money that car would wear an Acura badge, here in NA. I don't think it makes sense for Acura to kill off the ILX. Entry level cars are (or should be) your volume sellers. It's clear the 1G ILX missed the mark and customers didn't generally see the value in spending on the ILX. I think Acura will have its work cut out for them.

Christopher.

An "Acura-ized" version of the Type R w/AWD could be a very sweet car indeed, certainly would sitr up enthusiasm for the brand again.

I wanted the Type R, I ended up buying a TLX instead because my local dealer Honda didn't let me test drive the Type R.

svtmike

The styling would have to be radically different. I don’t think the typical Acura customer wants to drive something that looks like it was slapped together from leftover aftermarket body kit parts.

AZuser

TLX Type S? I could see one coming.
RDX Type S? A bit of a stretch, but possible
MDX Type S? I guess it could be possible... more so than an RDX Type S
ILX Type S? Why?
RLX Type S? What's the point?

Don't Type S variants sell in really low volumes? The ILX is a low volume seller. An ILX Type S would sell even less. So it'd be kind of pointless.

Isn't the RLX Sport hybrid sort of a Type S? The RLX Sport hybrid averages about 20 a month. What would an RLX Type S do, between 1 and 5 a month? Why bother?

I have a hard time believing the bean counters would be okay with Type S variants for every model.

hadokenuh

LOL. Everytime one of these threads pops up, people will talk about big turbo'ed engines, 6MT, Type R, V8, 500HP, RWD.

Always entertaining to read! Keep them coming guys!

Mak P

May be funny, but if a Kia Stinger Gt is putting out 365 HP doing 0-60 for 4.5 sec and RWD for less money, Acura need to step it up

BEAR-AvHistory

The last Type-S was a product interest extender for the end of the 3G product life cycle. Volumes had turned down to 71,000 cars by 2006 so the 07-08 got the Type-S face lift. It was very close to what the just did with the A-Spec but they also through in a 300CC engine increase worth 16 odd horsepower IIRC. Its remembered much more fondly as it dims further into the past. Don't think they sold many because volumes continued to fall to 58,000 cars in 2007 & the price tag for the type-S was pushing the limit on how much an TL could command.

Mak P

Regardless of advertised horsepower the mid 4 second to 60 range is now the sweet spot for sport sedans & coupes. There are very few if any players who don't have at least one sub 5 second car. The brand we are not supposed to talk about that is already in the 4's is moving from 320BHP to 355BHP when the new G series comes out next year so the horsepower race will continue into the future.

My grandsons Genesis R-Spec coupe @ 345BHP just missis making it into the 4's but was a good buy @ $30K all in. 3.8 liter V6 engine, 6MT Brembo brakes, mechanical LSD, track suspension on 19" alloys, Michelin sports tires & a high bolstered sport seat having contrasting stitching with embroidered R-Spec logos. So you can build an interesting car without a high price for the buyer.

mondster

you can pretty much use this sentence and just change acura to lexus, mercedes, bmw or audi

pyrodan007

Not really because unlike Acura they already have a model available now. Acura has something missing in all sedan models to compete.

Christopher.

Well, I'd be quite happy if they made it look like a slightly smaller version of the 2018 TLX and added a wing spoiler, nice leather seats, slightly smooth out the ride, make the interior "Acura quiet", and add the standard Acura P.A.W.S. / SH-AWD options?

"2019 ILX Type S 2.0T" - sign me up now.

TacoBello

I foresee Acura staying in the compact segment, with a 2G ILX. It will be based on the current Civic, so it will undoubtedly be a good car. The question will be if it will be worth the price premium over the Civic. Acura has some big shoes to fill to make the 2G ILX better... the Civic already packs a punch.

I'd love to see a Type S version of the ILX... aka an SH-AWD Civic Type R, with leather seats and way toned down exterior styling from the CTR. Honda did hint about an AWD CTR, back in June...

BEAR-AvHistory

That said it does look like at least in Europe that Stinger has replaced the TL as the value priced car in the multi car sports sedan compares.

TacoBello

The fact there is a Kia even being compared next to an Audi and BMW is flooring.

pyrodan007

That's what happens when companies do their homework and not always look at the price tags for highest profit.

FLYGUY31

Is that the A5 Sportback or A7?

MyGuti

I was at a local Acura Dealer yesterday, and the representative said the new (2019) RDX is going to be a 4cyl turbo charged engine, opposed to the 3.5 ltr that's it in now, he then said "guaranteed".
I haven't heard anything about a new engine for the RDX, so I'm pretty skeptical, but then again its not breaking news that the RDX has pretty bad gas mileage.

It's interesting to see what path Acura is taking.......at first I was totally against purchasing a new TLX, simply because they hadn't changed the engine from the previous years.
However, while at the dealer yesterday, the sales rep proposed a deal that may be hard to pass up. The wife also took a liking to the styling of the new TLXs' (with aspec).
Hopefully all works out and we can bring one home
oh and the 3g is not going anywhere, despite dealers offering a trade in value each time I visit

heisnuts

With those rims it looks like the S5 Sportback, which can also be had in a coupe with a 0-60 time of 4.4 seconds, AWD, heads up display, virtual cockpit, and adaptive cruise control with traffic jam assist and road sign recognition that puts the current speed limit in the heads up display and virtual cockpit.

pyrodan007

But it does have a good 15-20k price difference at least here in Canada compared to Stinger. My A4 has all of those features too, but no 4.4s acceleration. Still a fun drive.

FLYGUY31

The A5 Sportback is growing on me.
Pretty good looking car with nice demensions.