Anyone regret buying 2.4L FWD?
Son taking 2009 Accord 4cyl to school.
Getting ready to pick up a new car (to me). Been thinking of the TLX and BMW 4-series (sporty, more power, etc. than current DD). I know about the BMW maintenance costs and I'm leaning towards the TLX. However, with all the speculation about the TLX Type-S with a 3.0 Turbo V6, 350 HP, etc. I'd rather not buy a 2019 A-Spec SH-AWD car now, and then be wishing I'd bought something cheaper in 2021 when I'll be thinking of the Type-S. So I'm looking at 2018 TLX with the Tech package and 2.4L (Loaner car with 6,500 miles). Asking is $31k but I'm sure I can get them down off that price. Prefer the 18's for the updated tech and transmission. Seems to be some gremlins with the 2015/2016 TLX SH-AWD cars. Anyway, I test drove both V-6 A-Spec SH-AWD and the 4-cyl Tech models back to back and the 4-cyl just felt a bit dead to me. It's only 20 HP more than the current car, obviously much newer and better tech, but just didn't not feel like a huge upgrade performance wise. Anyone buy the 2.4L and wish they'd opted for the V-6? |
Not me.Not even once:whyme:. A little searching will explain why some of us like the 4 cyl.
Good luck on your purchase. |
Never. A ton of early reviews said the 2.4 was the TLX model to get. It has less weight over the front tires so it feels lighter on its feet. The 8 speed DCT is a better transmission then the 9 speed ZF unit in the V6 models. No vibration issues that the V6 SHAWD model suffered from. Im my opinion, if you can live with less power, the 2.4 blows the V6 version out of the water.
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No regrets at all. Been happy with mine except for a few minor nits.
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If you read the vibration thread, there are vibration symptoms across all models. I4 and V6 with or without SH-AWD. FWIW my 15 SH-AWD has 0 vibrations at any speed @ 50K miles :thumbsup:
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Sometimes on the freeways when I'm trying to pass, I do wish it had more grunt. But then every time I get a V6 as a loaner, I remember why I didn't get it.
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Not regretting at all, but do wish it got more power though. couple negative on my 4cyl; idle vibration sometime can be strong, lkas system sometime does not work, and when it worked, it doesn't work well on a right curve (work great on left curve). Other than that, love it.
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Despite all the conundrum of the V6 9spd, I would have definitely bought that over my I4 DCT. The I4 isn't as refined as the V6, the motor vibrates, and the DCT is very rough in the cold if that matters. Acceleration is decent, but the V6 as a whole is just more refined, I have tested the V6 in the cold and the transmission was silky smooth even in the coldest of temperatures. I do not enjoy my I4 TLX, and I can't wait to get back into a V6...
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Skip the 4. That car is apsolutely gutless. Yes, the tranny shifts fast but the car just doesn't move. Buying a slightly used V6 is a no brainer.
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Just bought a '15 2.4L FWD Aug 7th. CPO at Acura Tempe. Not had any problems with anything. Already taken it on a 800 mile road trip to Idaho. Felt good compared to my 06 Lexus IS 250 AWD. I didn't like the buttons on the V6 model cause I rest my hand on the shifter. Thats one of my reasons I bought the 4 cyl.
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Coming from a 4g TL SHAWD, I don't regret getting the 2.4L. It feels light on its feet and the DCT is pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by robscharp05
(Post 16280177)
Despite all the conundrum of the V6 9spd, I would have definitely bought that over my I4 DCT. The I4 isn't as refined as the V6, the motor vibrates, and the DCT is very rough in the cold if that matters. Acceleration is decent, but the V6 as a whole is just more refined, I have tested the V6 in the cold and the transmission was silky smooth even in the coldest of temperatures. I do not enjoy my I4 TLX, and I can't wait to get back into a V6...
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Recently I've been seeing comments and complaints about the 2.4 vibrating at idle with the A/C on. I was idling in a mall parking lot this afternoon with the A/C on for around 20 mins and couldn't feel any vibration from the motor. Ive definitely felt the vibrations in all my other 4 cyl Honda's and Acura's but my TLX seems to be free of them.
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Is anyone aware of similar ‘behavior’ with the 9G Accord? (My old Accord Sport didn’t seem to have this characteristic.) |
My 2013 Accord EXL would vibrate a bit when the AC kicked on. You only noticed it when sitting still.
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I had a 2018 TLX 4cyl loaner and really enjoyed it. Very smooth and quiet. The power is enough around town. There was a little vibration at ilde but I do realize that 4cyl tends to vibrates more than V6 as it gets more miles. Keep that in mind.
When you test drive the TLX, just make sure it doesn't have any vibration at 60-70mph. |
2018 TLX 4 cyl Tech here. Love the car! Changing the driving mode to Sport makes a huge difference.
Only thing you need to do is to go to a BMW dealer for a BMW 320i test drive. Right after that go for another TLX test drive. Compare the cars on: power, handling, road noise, car price & maintenance cost. For me TLX beats a 320i at any of these. |
Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
(Post 16281420)
My 2013 Accord EXL would vibrate a bit when the AC kicked on. You only noticed it when sitting still.
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Originally Posted by noclue02
(Post 16281717)
My then 2013 Accord LX 4 cyl, even with 48k miles on it, has no vibration during idle even with AC on. My 16' TLX vibration during idle is there 90% of the time. When AC is on, it reduce the vibration to a comfortable level. Had 2 18' TLX loaner and there were no vibration at all!
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
(Post 16281728)
I don't feel any noticeable (or excessive) vibration from my TLX - AC running or not.
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
(Post 16281728)
I don't feel any noticeable (or excessive) vibration from my TLX - AC running or not.
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The 15-16' 2.4L also had transmission issues, just not the same ones as the 3.5L. I had a '16 and luckily those issues were fully resolved with firmware updates performed at the dealer. Post-fix, I liked it so much that I purchased a 19' 2.4L A-Spec when my lease was up. Also, I never experienced any vibration issues, either from the A/C or when going above 70mph.
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Bought a used 2015. It does shift rough when cold, about to change trans fluid to see if that helps I consider it more of an annoyance than a deal breaker. I used to drive an '04 TSX and comparatively the trans on the TLX and increased torque makes this feel much "quicker", not fast but quick.
In between I did own a 2012 TL AWD and it just didn't align with me, never drove a 5th gen 6 cylinder so can't comment on that. |
Originally Posted by daschwa
(Post 16282902)
Bought a used 2015. It does shift rough when cold, about to change trans fluid to see if that helps I consider it more of an annoyance than a deal breaker........ .
I've had two minor issues with the DCT, both of which were resolved by TSB updates which I had done during routine service appointments. No inconvenience at all:thumbsup:. |
Drive the V6 then decide. I had a 2014 TSX Tech with a 4 cylinder and my foot was in it all the time. Traded it for a 15 TLX Tech V6 and loved the power and actually got better fuel economy - 26.2 on V6 TLX Tech versus 25.8 on the TSX Tech. Never had any issues on the TLX and traded it for a 18 TLX Tech SH-AWD. Love the AWD and would never look back now. Superior traction, lots of power and incredible handling with the torque vectoring. I driven the 4 cyl TLXs and they are boring. Power is ok, feels about the same as the TSX. |
Originally Posted by mdc26
(Post 16281636)
2018 TLX 4 cyl Tech here. Love the car! Changing the driving mode to Sport makes a huge difference.
Only thing you need to do is to go to a BMW dealer for a BMW 320i test drive. Right after that go for another TLX test drive. Compare the cars on: power, handling, road noise, car price & maintenance cost. For me TLX beats a 320i at any of these. |
Thanks for all the replies.
Now I'm stuck with too many choices...(that's a 1st world problem, right).... Yes, I'm only looking at the 430 or 435i X-Drive vehicles, not the 320. The warranties are great on both the CPO and new TLX, but it's when those run out that the costs start to hit. I keep my cars 8-10 years or more so maintenance is going to be a factor. Unfortunately (or fortunately ;) I drove a friend Mercedes C400 last week. Holy Cow that was a blast. Then found a C450 in an awesome color for $45k so same price as the new TLX. Yes, maintenance on those is expensive too....but man it was a rocket ship. |
If maintenance is a prominent factor towards your final decision then, I would lean away from the Euro makes. I know the likes of BMW, Audi and MB have come a long way over the years in terms of QC but if you’re talking 8-10 years of ownership then I would still lean towards the Honda/Toyota camp. Granted, the performance choices are fairly limited when it comes to these two brands with the only notable options from Honda being the CTR, TLX V6 and Accord 2.0T. |
FWIW, my dad's E350 and my own C300 have both been trouble-free for the past 9 and 10 years (respectively).
Granted that's just a tiny sample, but enough to make me trust the brand long-term if I were to consider MB again. In other words, go for the C450 :thumbsup: :toocool: |
Originally Posted by Sean F1
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Thanks for all the replies.
Now I'm stuck with too many choices...(that's a 1st world problem, right).... Yes, I'm only looking at the 430 or 435i X-Drive vehicles, not the 320. The warranties are great on both the CPO and new TLX, but it's when those run out that the costs start to hit. I keep my cars 8-10 years or more so maintenance is going to be a factor. Unfortunately (or fortunately ;) I drove a friend Mercedes C400 last week. Holy Cow that was a blast. Then found a C450 in an awesome color for $45k so same price as the new TLX. Yes, maintenance on those is expensive too....but man it was a rocket ship. |
Hate the DCT.
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Originally Posted by Rocktman1
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Hate the DCT.
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Originally Posted by Rocktman1
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Hate the DCT.
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No regrets, it’s a great combination! |
The 8 DCT is considered equal to or better than most competitors by the most well respected reviewers (eg. Alex on Autos). I adore my - and the car is only "gutless" if you choose to drive like an AH. The pick-up on the highway is as good as many 6 cylinders in the 50 - 80k area - and has been documented as such.
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And since I love it so much I just agreed to a lease deal on a 2018 2.4 Elite ASpec:)
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Originally Posted by mapleloaf
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And since I love it so much I just agreed to a lease deal on a 2018 2.4 Elite ASpec:)
Curious - did you consider the new RDX? |
Originally Posted by mapleloaf
(Post 16291009)
And since I love it so much I just agreed to a lease deal on a 2018 2.4 Elite ASpec:)
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
(Post 16291161)
Congrats!
Curious - did you consider the new RDX? |
Originally Posted by tsturbo
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congratulations and great choice! Now, let’s see pics!! |
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