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Old 07-07-2019, 07:09 AM
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/\ /\ /\ Yep. If I had to buy a new car today, it would be the Accord 2.0 EX-L or Touring. It's hard to imaging Acura releasing a new TLX that's not a step up from the Accord. Turbo V-6 Type-S, anyone?
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The current generation Accord is a good benchmark for interior space. I would love to see the 2.0 Turbo with a pair of electric motors for an outstanding SH-AWD Hybrid drivetrain that would probably exceed 300HP. They have all the parts and all the technology to deliver it. Speed and fuel efficiency would really distinguish Acura in a crowded and shrinking market.

My guess is that we may not see the 2021 TLX until later winter/ early spring. I don't see them delivering a '21 model in the end of '19. Hope the August releases will shed some light on the next step for the TLX.
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The current generation Accord is a good benchmark for interior space. I would love to see the 2.0 Turbo with a pair of electric motors for an outstanding SH-AWD Hybrid drivetrain that would probably exceed 300HP. They have all the parts and all the technology to deliver it. Speed and fuel efficiency would really distinguish Acura in a crowded and shrinking market.

My guess is that we may not see the 2021 TLX until later winter/ early spring. I don't see them delivering a '21 model in the end of '19. Hope the August releases will shed some light on the next step for the TLX.
I mentioned months before the 2020 release was set when people said the 2020 model was going to be the 2nd Gen TLX that I was told by the Acura sales GM where I have bought numerous Acura's (who said told me he actually checked with corporate before getting back to me) that the most likely date at that time was November 2020 as a 2021 model year. This was for the type S which is what I inquired about. Of course when I posted that here there were a lot of people who said the dealer was lying, knows nothing, would never tell anyone info about when the product they sell will be updated or would even know when a new product they would be selling would be released. Almost all here on the forums were saying the 2020 model would be the 2nd gen at that time which we all know now never happened. Perhaps the non-type s variant comes out a few months ahead of the S around mid year 2020. Of course things could have changed as that was I think around Dec 2018 that he called me back with that info but he has always given decent insight on what changes are coming down the road.
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I mentioned months before the 2020 release was set when people said the 2020 model was going to be the 2nd Gen TLX that I was told by the Acura sales GM where I have bought numerous Acura's (who said told me he actually checked with corporate before getting back to me) that the most likely date at that time was November 2020 as a 2021 model year. This was for the type S which is what I inquired about. Of course when I posted that here there were a lot of people who said the dealer was lying, knows nothing, would never tell anyone info about when the product they sell will be updated or would even know when a new product they would be selling would be released. Almost all here on the forums were saying the 2020 model would be the 2nd gen at that time which we all know now never happened. Perhaps the non-type s variant comes out a few months ahead of the S around mid year 2020. Of course things could have changed as that was I think around Dec 2018 that he called me back with that info but he has always given decent insight on what changes are coming down the road.
I think your dealer was right and we will see the TLX in spring or summer 2020 and Type S in fall.

Also, I am confident that the next gen TLX will be impressive. It can’t be accord. It has to be better.

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300 HP
Digital cockpit
Better seats and material
In summary, similar to the RDX with few extras.
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[QUOTE=jhb31;16449543]I mentioned months before the 2020 release was set when people said the 2020 model was going to be the 2nd Gen TLX that I was told by the Acura sales GM where I have bought numerous Acura's (who said told me he actually checked with corporate before getting back to me) that the most likely date at that time was November 2020 as a 2021 model year. This was for the type S which is what I inquired about. Of course when I posted that here there were a lot of people who said the dealer was lying, knows nothing, would never tell anyone info about when the product they sell will be updated or would even know when a new product they would be selling would be released. Almost all here on the forums were saying the 2020 model would be the 2nd gen at that time which we all know now never happened. Perhaps the non-type s variant comes out a few months ahead of the S around mid year 2020. Of course things could have changed as that was I think around Dec 2018 that he called me back with that info but he has always given decent insight on what changes are coming down

My dealer also confirmed the same info. I do hope they launch the Type S with release off 2Gen. They absolutely can't wait to release it 2 or 3 years later. By that time it will be too late.
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All this speculation is cool, but, if the Type-S ends up costing as much as a BMW M2 ($50K), then, what's the point???
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All this speculation is cool, but, if the Type-S ends up costing as much as a BMW M2 ($50K), then, what's the point???
Then it still undercuts its main competitor (C43 AMG, M340i, and S4) by multiple thousands, so it's still a good deal.

Also, I'm not sure where you're getting that $50K number from, because by the time you spec an M2 to have all the options that the TLX has, you're looking at mid to high 60s.

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All this speculation is cool, but, if the Type-S ends up costing as much as a BMW M2 ($50K), then, what's the point???
So what you're saying is an Acura should automatically never be priced similarly to a BMW?
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If I was that interested in an M2 & price was an issued I would get the M240 Fully optioned its $51K & at 4.2 seconds 0-60 is only slightly off the M2's performance level. Might take a track day or drag strip to find the separation, but very hard to separate then on the street. Had a chance to drive on at the Performance Driving School & they are runners.

If it was not hot enough a JB4 package $475 will bring it over 400BHP
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If I was that interested in an M2 & price was an issued I would get the M240 Fully optioned its $51K & at 4.2 seconds 0-60 is only slightly off the M2's performance level. Might take a track day or drag strip to find the separation, but very hard to separate then on the street. Had a chance to drive on at the Performance Driving School & they are runners.

If it was not hot enough a JB4 package $475 will bring it over 400BHP
M240 > M2 n55 but M2 s55 > M240 imo and MHD > JB4 hands down for tuning and half the cost.
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All this speculation is cool, but, if the Type-S ends up costing as much as a BMW M2 ($50K), then, what's the point???
I think it will cost around $50k for the Type-S, maybe $55k. M2 is a coupe though and quite smaller in comparison. Different class and segment. Acura will undercut the competition though. If Honda dealers can markup the Civic Type Rs for $40k and up and still sell them (MSRP is $34k) then I don't see Acura having an issue selling the Type S in the $50k range. Don't be surprise if the dealers mark them up also depending on the demand which I assume is going to happen. The hype is real.
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If I was that interested in an M2 & price was an issued I would get the M240 Fully optioned its $51K & at 4.2 seconds 0-60 is only slightly off the M2's performance level. Might take a track day or drag strip to find the separation, but very hard to separate then on the street. Had a chance to drive on at the Performance Driving School & they are runners.

If it was not hot enough a JB4 package $475 will bring it over 400BHP
So, I watched this video and it looks like the M240 steering absolutely SUCKS?!?

I haven't seen anybody making that complaint about the M2?
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So, I watched this video and it looks like the M240 steering absolutely SUCKS?!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rUhHQM3lc

I haven't seen anybody making that complaint about the M2?
You have not look very far:

Car & Driver 2019 M2 Road Test

Too bad the electrically assisted power steering spoils some of the fun. Its effort increases in the higher-performance drive modes, but the all-important feedback that telegraphs what the front tires are doing as you push hard is faint.

Like an explicit scene from Fifty Shades of Grey, the M2's punishing ride needs a safe word. But there isn't one. Those willing to accept the abuse on regular roads will be rewarded with pure ecstasy on the track.


Typically rookie mistake thinking a track oriented car is great on the street. It just ain't so.

The M240 softens things enough so its an outstanding street car that can do track days. M2 is an outstanding track day car thats limited on the street because of its track orientation. I could live with one, replacing my 135is, because I have other stuff to drive. If it was one of say two cars or a singlition the M240 would be the only choice not the M2.

Lot like my little red car, its a acquired taste, fast, hard, unforgiving, fun & not for everybody.

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Looks like that Acura exclusive turbo V-6 is being tested for several applications coming soon.
https://www.motor1.com/news/358752/a...-type-s-spied/
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Christopher, I always use the same test guys for consistency in testing. Since I have a C&D subscription I use them. As I said I also have driven the M240 at 10/10ths (something you or I will never come close to on the street) on BMW's track in SC.



440i at BMW SC another car that got flogged. Spun this one out into the dirt braking too late & too fast into a 120* turn

So to the meat C&D says this:

Large automakers have become adept at creating new micro segments, but BMW has managed an uncommon twist: Its M240i is one of the rare cars that competes more closely with its own sibling—the BMW M2—than it does with any external foe. This is fraternal rivalry as practiced in a piranha tank.

Yet BMW pretty much pulls it off. Drive this brace of 2s back-to-back and you realize that they do have different personalities that will appeal to dissimilar sets of buyers. While the M240i’s price seems to make it the junior partner here, for many it will be the better choice.

The M240i is a much better cruiser than the M2, quieter and less nervous on the highway. All U.S.-bound cars get the Adaptive M suspension as standard equipment, with damper firmness adjusted by the Dynamic Mode button.

(Kevin says - The M2 has standard non adaptive track day Shocks & heavier springs)

M240 grip levels are high—we recorded 0.94 g on the skidpad—and, with the effortless power delivery, a glance at the speedometer often revealed we were carrying much more speed than we’d thought. The car feels lighter on its feet than the M2 does under modest chassis loads; it’s only when you really start to push that the fundamental differences become apparent.

Bottom line by C&D

The M240i’s greatest achievement is that it doesn’t feel like a compromise next to the M2, but rather makes its own case as a more usable and more comfortable alternative for less money. If you plan to spend many weekends working out at a racetrack, by all means stretch for the M2. If you’re just looking for a lively driving companion for daily commutes and weekend getaways, the M240i is the better M car for that job.
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Nice pic, BEAR-AvHistory .

Back on topic, if a purported TLX-S is $50k, that's right around the same price as, or a bit less than, a Kia Stinger GT2 (the one with all the bells and whistles). I'd call that reasonable for the current market.

For me, the only questions are whether a) it'll be any good, b) it'll be released by the time my lease is over in less than a year (I'm hearing it could be, but that'd be unusual for Acura to do a summer release), and c) whether I am willing to be a beta-tester again like I was with the RLX Sport Hybrid.
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Nice pic, BEAR-AvHistory.


Thanks, will stay on topic a bit better. Agree on the price as the top end models are already in the mid to upper $40K

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^^^^
You look like you REALLY enjoyed your time on the track. I'd probably look the same.
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You look like you REALLY enjoyed your time on the track. I'd probably look the same.
Its a fun & in some cases a freebee. If you buy or lease a BMW you can do the delivery at the track & they will have the identical car for you to drive. Its a one day abbreviated version of their introductory course. They pay for the hotel meals etc for you & one person.

The full M course training generally costs $3600, but they will comp a course on occasion. I did receive that comp as a repeat car customer. That's where the vid came from. Was me & my daughter (911S4-6MT) & she shot the vid with here phone during my turn.
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Hot off the press, y'all...a couple of helpful dealer contacts, from different dealers, are telling me that the new TLX will be an end of quarter 1 release in calendar year 2020. TLX-S may be released shortly after. I mostly care because my lease is ending in spring 2020. We'll see how it goes...if true, it looks like I could be a beta-tester again...
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Appears to be the new TLX ???



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Some interior and engine pics, not sure of which vehicle this is, but its a V6 no doubt, appears to be some ambient lighting options also






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^^^^^

'21 tlx??
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'21 tlx??
Quite likely. https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...ui-apk-980889/
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I think it will cost around $50k for the Type-S, maybe $55k. M2 is a coupe though and quite smaller in comparison. Different class and segment. Acura will undercut the competition though. If Honda dealers can markup the Civic Type Rs for $40k and up and still sell them (MSRP is $34k) then I don't see Acura having an issue selling the Type S in the $50k range. Don't be surprise if the dealers mark them up also depending on the demand which I assume is going to happen. The hype is real.
I suspect the price will be right around 50K. The last type S was about 5k over the non-Type S variant and back then the TL was fairly loaded as a base model. The A-Spec sticker I think was around $33.5k and can be had for a nice discount now. The last type-S (I think was a $38.4k sticker and the extra 5K over the regular TL got you performance suspension, 4 piston brembo front brakes, larger motor and numerous interior and exterior upgrades. Unless I am wrong the only option on the S when I bought one was summer tires. I bought a left over 07 (which was on the lot for a couple months before I finally went back to get it just when the 08 were hitting the lots and paid just over 32k so a large discount by waiting.

The other thing to note and may or may not hold true is that the 3rd gen Type S if you held onto it for a while it was a highly sought after car and was easily getting 30% or more used over the non-performance model so while a higher up front cost the residual value after years of ownership was significant over the other non Type-S TL's and if it was a manual then add more onto that. Then again the Acura has to do it right.

The type S will not be a high volume seller as most Acura buyer opt for the lower models. Many may want the Type S when it comes out but it will be the lowest volume seller overall due to most don't want to shell out the extra money and don't care for the performance.

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"Loose" or "not much feedback" steering is a real buzzkill for me, the M240 sounds FANTASTIC, except for the steering, which would, for me, be like having a meal from a 4 star Michelin restaurant, with a small piece of poop stuck right in the middle.

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Its a fun & in some cases a freebee. If you buy or lease a BMW you can do the delivery at the track & they will have the identical car for you to drive. Its a one day abbreviated version of their introductory course. They pay for the hotel meals etc for you & one person.

The full M course training generally costs $3600, but they will comp a course on occasion. I did receive that comp as a repeat car customer. That's where the vid came from. Was me & my daughter (911S4-6MT) & she shot the vid with here phone during my turn.
If I could rent an M2 for a couple days a year, I think I wouldn't need to own one. I could be happy with my "decent family daily driver", plus perhaps a cheapo "project car", once I have kids sent off to college - depending on how my health is by then...

I would honestly rather live with an "unpleasantly stiff suspension" (as they say about the m2) on "regular rough roads" than a too soft dead feeling steering system (as I have read/viewed videos about the M240i). My old college roommate had his dad's Porsche 944 for the summer when I took some summer college courses years ago - that was a real tooth-rattler - no fun as a passenger, but, I suspect I'd love the handling as a driver. It seems a little strange to me that the 944 suspension would be that much stiffer than 911 (are these days?).

I was playing with my TLX steering today and there is absolutely ZERO "play" - you move it a fraction of a degree, and the wheels move too. Just how it should be. It's also very easy to hold a straight line, with no ambiguity to the feel. It's not as "hard" to turn the wheel as I'd like, but, for a "premium" car I'll take what they gave me and be thankful that it's not feather light to turn the wheel. There's just enough resistance to feel engaged in the driving.

My recent thoughts regarding the TLX are that if I had gotten the SH-AWD version I'd be happier than a pig in shit, from the "this is my daily driver, running errands, taking the kids around etc." car. It's not quite enough to fully satisfy the itch to have a good roadster for when I'm driving for fun by myself out on some back roads, and neither is it something that inspires me to want to take it to "track day" although I would like to TRY it on a track, out of curriousity's sake.

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So that sedan image is impressive, but the long overhang past the front wheels hurts the overall look. I am intrigued.
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Me likey. I like these signs of life at Acura. That sedan is nice...hoping it’s TLX but who knows?
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Not bad. Interior will be so much better it will make the current interior look ancient.
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All this speculation is cool, but, if the Type-S ends up costing as much as a BMW M2 ($50K), then, what's the point???

If the TLX was a 1 Series competitor, you’d have a point. The TLX 2.0t and TLX Type-S 3.0t will compete with the C300/C43 AMG, BMW 330i/M340i, Audi A4 Quattro/S4 Quattro, Genesis G70 2.0t/G70 3.3tt, Infiniti Q50, Lexus IS.....etc etc. All those cars have prices over $50k and some kiss $70k when fully loaded.
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I suspect the price will be right around 50K. The last type S was about 5k over the non-Type S variant and back then the TL was fairly loaded as a base model. The A-Spec sticker I think was around $33.5k and can be had for a nice discount now. The last type-S (I think was a $38.4k sticker and the extra 5K over the regular TL got you performance suspension, 4 piston brembo front brakes, larger motor and numerous interior and exterior upgrades. Unless I am wrong the only option on the S when I bought one was summer tires. I bought a left over 07 (which was on the lot for a couple months before I finally went back to get it just when the 08 were hitting the lots and paid just over 32k so a large discount by waiting.

The other thing to note and may or may not hold true is that the 3rd gen Type S if you held onto it for a while it was a highly sought after car and was easily getting 30% or more used over the non-performance model so while a higher up front cost the residual value after years of ownership was significant over the other non Type-S TL's and if it was a manual then add more onto that. Then again the Acura has to do it right.

The type S will not be a high volume seller as most Acura buyer opt for the lower models. Many may want the Type S when it comes out but it will be the lowest volume seller overall due to most don't want to shell out the extra money and don't care for the performance.

The current TLX V6 Advance SH-AWD is around $47k, so a Type-S 3.0t, SH-AWD which will likely be fully loaded will cost around $55-56K yet still be cheaper than comparably equipped German competitors which would be around $10K more expensive. You cant compare a 3G TL to a new TLX as the electronics alone are much more plentiful (read expensive) and advanced vs the 3G and now we have SH-AWD and a host of other safety, performance and other stuff to figure in. The value will still be there vs the Europeans.
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Let's GO Acura! That would be a sweet looking TLX!
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So apparently someone at Car & Driver saw the renderings of the new TLX and MDX on this very site and reported about it. Kind of cool.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-ne...213300367.html

I have to say that I'm very intrigued by the new TLX rendering. I could definitely see myself owning one with the V6T engine.
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So that sedan image is impressive, but the long overhang past the front wheels hurts the overall look. I am intrigued.
Yeah, the overhang looks really weird, but I'm wondering if it's just the angle. The MDX render has a much shorter overhang.



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Check this out:
Is that double wish bone front suspention?
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Better be a different platform under that new sedan. If it uses the same it'll be prone to that vibration and I will definitely be done with Acura.
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Yeah, the overhang looks really weird, but I'm wondering if it's just the angle. The MDX render has a much shorter overhang.
Most likely just a bad rendering, it just screams FWD.
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Is that double wish bone front suspention?
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Better be a different platform under that new sedan. If it uses the same it'll be prone to that vibration and I will definitely be done with Acura.
If the current Accord is running on a new platform most likely the TLX will be too. If that can't fit the V6 then the new RDX will be used.

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