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Old 03-20-2019, 02:10 PM
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I agree about biting the bullet and not putting something out half-baked. Since we've been seeing mules as far back as November/December 2018, the second gen TLX should launch without any significant hitches. Hopefully, they'll launch the TLX like the 2020 3-Series, 4-cylinder in Q1 and more powerful 6-cylinder shortly after in Q2.
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Don't think Acura is on the list for a NYAS announcement. One of the guys was looking for a C8 announcement from GM, there was none, but don't remember seeing anything from Acura either. No longer have the data, sorry.

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Originally Posted by CollinR4 View Post
I agree about biting the bullet and not putting something out half-baked. Since we've been seeing mules as far back as November/December 2018, the second gen TLX should launch without any significant hitches. Hopefully, they'll launch the TLX like the 2020 3-Series, 4-cylinder in Q1 and more powerful 6-cylinder shortly after in Q2.
Uhmmm, we're talking about Acura here. The TLX launch was delayed and the car was a total joke. The transmissions were apsolute joke. They all were rough shifting and slow. The interior was two generations behind as well. They cheaped out with Smart Luxury theme. Either way, I think the 20 model will only be around for six months or so
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory View Post
Don't think Acura is on the list for a NYAS announcement. One of the guys was looking for a C8 announcement from GM, there was none, but don't remember seeing anything from Acura either. No longer have the data, sorry.

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Acura - Special Editions & Bourbon Tasting
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Acura is bringing booze to the their press conference? That's one way to pack the house or they need it because they have nothing to announce and want the press hammered by the end of it.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:58 PM
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Uhmmm, we're talking about Acura here. The TLX launch was delayed and the car was a total joke. The transmissions were apsolute joke. They all were rough shifting and slow. The interior was two generations behind as well. They cheaped out with Smart Luxury theme. Either way, I think the 20 model will only be around for six months or so
Well they did bring the 2019 model out in early April 2018 which seems almost ridiculous not even being a new model release. The 2020 by that standard should be released in the next couple weeks. Then a 2021 model they could do later this year or in Jan/Feb 2020. I don't remember car models for the following year being released so early into the current year (particularly with minor changes in options) but don't follow release dates typically. Anyway, if they are sticking with the 1st gen TLX another year it will be at the dealers in the next few weeks and then speculation can start on when the 2021 model year will hit. Or maybe it's possible they Release the 2nd gen TLX late in the year also as a 2020 model.
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It should come as no surprise that the 2020 TLX is unchanged from 2019. There have not been any sightings of heavy camouflaged 2nd gen cars yet. My hope is that these lightly camouflaged first gen mules are just testers for the new V6 turbo motor and not an actual type S variant. Reviving the type S nameplate, after a 12 year hiatus, for a sedan in its 6th year of production doesn't seem like a good idea. No offense to anyone with a 1st gen. They did a nice job with the mid cycle refresh, but a new motor with a new body and new interior is going to get a lot more people into the showrooms. The new RDX is a testament to that.

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I'm betting a year from now we will get the 2.0T models in fwd/awd . Then a few months later the Type S.
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So, Type S TLX will be 2021 Model Year. Can't wait to see it/test drive. I really hope it has active dampers / "track" mode suspension option!

My V6 TLX was in the shop for the pump recall + oil change + tire rotation. I got the ILX (requested it) for my loaner. It was the A-Spec variant.

I like basically *EVERYTHING* about my TLX significantly better.

I had thought that I might like the smaller/ligher car, maybe it would feel "peppier" - nope, my V6 is much more satisfying, no matter how much I bitch about it's lack of low end torque.

I've decided it's not a lack of power issue with my car, it's the lack of manual transmission / rear wheel drive (although I would certainly enjoy significantly more low end torque it wouldn't be very usable in my current FWD automatic tranny setup).

I need to test drive the SH-AWD variant - I did not do so when I bought mine because I was in too much of a hurry (bad idea, I know, oh well).
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So, Type S TLX will be 2021 Model Year. Can't wait to see it/test drive. I really hope it has active dampers / "track" mode suspension option!

My V6 TLX was in the shop for the pump recall + oil change + tire rotation. I got the ILX (requested it) for my loaner. It was the A-Spec variant.

I like basically *EVERYTHING* about my TLX significantly better.

I had thought that I might like the smaller/ligher car, maybe it would feel "peppier" - nope, my V6 is much more satisfying, no matter how much I bitch about it's lack of low end torque.

I've decided it's not a lack of power issue with my car, it's the lack of manual transmission / rear wheel drive (although I would certainly enjoy significantly more low end torque it wouldn't be very usable in my current FWD automatic tranny setup).

I need to test drive the SH-AWD variant - I did not do so when I bought mine because I was in too much of a hurry (bad idea, I know, oh well).
I personally don't want active dampers as they always end up failing anyways.

I'm over manual transmissions also. Once you get a sporty lightning fast transmission. I think you'd give up on manuals.

The 8speed dual clutch is ok. And the 9soeed zf is one in my opinion.

I came from a 7speed dual clutch in my last car that was an s4. I swore off manuals after that. Getting into a more practical 19' tlx apsec AWD is making me miss a quicker shift a lot. But not making me miss a clutch pedal.
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I personally don't want active dampers as they always end up failing anyways.

I'm over manual transmissions also. Once you get a sporty lightning fast transmission. I think you'd give up on manuals.

The 8speed dual clutch is ok. And the 9soeed zf is one in my opinion.

I came from a 7speed dual clutch in my last car that was an s4. I swore off manuals after that. Getting into a more practical 19' tlx apsec AWD is making me miss a quicker shift a lot. But not making me miss a clutch pedal.
Agree with you on the dampers. I'm pretty much the complete opposite regarding manuals though. So much so that I'm considering an Accord Sport 2.0 6 speed for my next car. I don't care how fast a good automatic shifts as opposed to the driving engagement of a manual. Funny to talk about driving engagement with an Accord, but aftermarket can fix a lot of the stock issues. I get back into my 2003 manual CL Type S and it puts a smile back on my face every time. I'm not holding my breath for a manual on the Type S, but if it did come with one the check is written. Maybe I've been soured on the issues with the ZF9, but it's slim pickings for reasonable manual sedans that are new and that aren't stripped down.
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I’m looking at the Accord Sport 2.0t manual, too! It’s 80% of the TLX...missing interior refinement and SH-AWD. I can live with that if I can put in a short shift kit (there is one for the new Accord) in.

As for active dampers...MEH. My CTS-V wagon comes with them. In the almost 6 1/2 years and 40k miles I’ve driven it, Ive had to replace all four. They just do EMR last long at all.
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Iím looking at the Accord Sport 2.0t manual, too! Itís 80% of the TLX...missing interior refinement and SH-AWD. I can live with that if I can put in a short shift kit (there is one for the new Accord) in.

As for active dampers...MEH. My CTS-V wagon comes with them. In the almost 6 1/2 years and 40k miles Iíve driven it, Ive had to replace all four. They just do EMR last long at all.
Is that the Acuity short shift kit?
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https://www.motor1.com/news/344208/a...tion-unveiled/

Extremely underwhelmed by the news of a limited edition TLX that is hand built. To me, this screams we need a new TLX for NYIAS next week and don't have one so we'll use this as a diversion.
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Originally Posted by CollinR4 View Post
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Extremely underwhelmed by the news of a limited edition TLX that is hand built. To me, this screams we need a new TLX for NYIAS next week and don't have one so we'll use this as a diversion.
The sold 170 NSX last year. Most likely have a bunch of techs sitting around on their hands with nothing to do. Should stir up some revenue. The red paint is a winner. Maybe a marketing test for a $50K price point on the TLX.
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Originally Posted by CollinR4 View Post
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Extremely underwhelmed by the news of a limited edition TLX that is hand built. To me, this screams we need a new TLX for NYIAS next week and don't have one so we'll use this as a diversion.
Just when I thought they couldn't milk anymore appearance packages. I do like that shade of red though. I think it's the same one i've seen on the NSX making the car show rounds. Is that a Surround View camera I see in the grill though?

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Just when I thought they couldn't milk anymore appearance packages. I do like that shade of red though. I think it's the same one i've seen on the NSX making the car show rounds. Is that a Surround View camera I see in the grill though?
Isn't that the same color (or similar to) the color that was on the prototype waaaaaaaay back when : https://www.motortrend.com/cars/acur...pe-first-look/
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I'm pretty much the complete opposite regarding manuals though. So much so that I'm considering an Accord Sport 2.0 6 speed for my next car. I don't care how fast a good automatic shifts as opposed to the driving engagement of a manual. Funny to talk about driving engagement with an Accord, but aftermarket can fix a lot of the stock issues. I get back into my 2003 manual CL Type S and it puts a smile back on my face every time. I'm not holding my breath for a manual on the Type S, but if it did come with one the check is written. Maybe I've been soured on the issues with the ZF9, but it's slim pickings for reasonable manual sedans that are new and that aren't stripped down.
I agree with you on manuals, and I'm also considering an Accord Sport 2.0T with 6MT. I've driven the 1.5T with manual, which was surprisingly good, and also the 2.0T with automatic, which was flat-out excellent IMO -- and would have been even better with the 6MT.

And you're not kidding about "slim pickings for reasonable manual sedans" -- they're almost extinct in the U.S. The new 3 Series is auto-only (apart from the M3), Audi dropped the manual from the A4, and Mazda just pulled the plug on the manual for the 6, though apparently it might become available as a special order. So what's left? Accord, Genesis G70, and a few compacts (Civic, WRX, Jetta). I think that's it.

This creates more incentive to get the Accord Sport 2.0T, because it will be one of the last opportunities to buy an excellent MT sedan. If I get one, it should last 10 years, and then I expect an EV will be next.
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I agree with you on manuals, and I'm also considering an Accord Sport 2.0T with 6MT. I've driven the 1.5T with manual, which was surprisingly good, and also the 2.0T with automatic, which was flat-out excellent IMO -- and would have been even better with the 6MT.

And you're not kidding about "slim pickings for reasonable manual sedans" -- they're almost extinct in the U.S. The new 3 Series is auto-only (apart from the M3), Audi dropped the manual from the A4, and Mazda just pulled the plug on the manual for the 6, though apparently it might become available as a special order. So what's left? Accord, Genesis G70, and a few compacts (Civic, WRX, Jetta). I think that's it.

This creates more incentive to get the Accord Sport 2.0T, because it will be one of the last opportunities to buy an excellent MT sedan. If I get one, it should last 10 years, and then I expect an EV will be next.
The G70 2.0t is the only engine available with a manual. The 3.3tt has the 8AT.
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The G70 2.0t is the only engine available with a manual. The 3.3tt has the 8AT.
Yes, and by some accounts the 6MT in the G70 2.0 Sport MT isn't very good. Car & Driver, who love MT as much as anyone, actually recommend the automatic in the G70. That's really depressing. I plan to test it anyway, but I've basically decided I'd prefer the Accord. Less expense, less hassle, and, having driven an automatic G70 2.0T, I think the Accord's engine is better. Turbo torque, and revs like a Honda -- what's not to like?
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