Any doubts on 2nd gen TLX for 2020? Err...make that 2021?
#41
Chicago Auto Show is next month and Acura is on their floor plan. Doesn't mean they will show or announce anything new but they could provide some insight.
https://www.chicagoautoshow.com/exhi...or-floor-plan/
https://www.chicagoautoshow.com/exhi...or-floor-plan/
#42
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They'll probably just whore out a bunch of eye candy A-Spec models and that orange NSX for the Chicago show.
#43
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The GM's at the dealership certainly knows more than any of us and they don't expect it. The Acura dealers want it to happen as well as they hear it from the customers. That feedback makes it way to corporate. I suspect that a 2020 TLX will be on the lots in early fall of this year and it will be unchanged. They put the 2019 models out way early and I think it was just to get the A-Spec out there for the variants that didn't offer it (non-V6). Hope I am wrong but I think there is way too much hope for something this year.
#45
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If Acura follows their cycle there will be a new TLX shown either in February or April and go on sale early summer. The question will be whether there is a Type-S shown at same time. I suspect at least a Type-S prototype that may or may not go on sale this year or next year. The Sport sedan segment is heating up, G70 is a game changer and if Acura wants to not fade into the sunset they need a new TLX this year and a Type-S sooner than later.
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I would think Honda will hold to its practice of keeping all the info in corporate till the revel date location is chosen. Then the dealers will get there regional meetings on the new product.
Same thing is taking place on the StingRay mid engine cars. Mules are being seen in camo all over the place but no one out side corporate knows squat. Couple guys got canned for leaking a crappy interior shoot that may or may not be accurate. Lots of rumors but no hard data.
#47
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People put waaaay too much stock in what their Acura dealers say. They want you to buy a car now. Don't trust them.
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Just curious, are you singling out Acura dealers? BTW, i have built an excellent relationship based upon mutual trust and respect, and they have always been completely honest with me, including what they don't know. When you play one dealership off of another, as many are fond of (I don't have that 'luxury") you often pay a price later on in terms of service quality and cost, honesty, etc.
#51
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I have no inside information but I would be shocked if they stay with the ZF - unless they're contracted to do so but I can't imagine they would have committed to a license agreement that long. I think we'll see the new 10 speed from the RDX (which isn't perfect either by all accounts) which should be mostly sorted out by then.
#52
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That was my thought as well. (Re: ZF agreement). Hopefully, this tranny won’t make an appearance in future Acura TLX/MDX models.
#53
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Guess we will have to wait to see what happens. One thing, at this time, there is no more reason for a local GM to know when then there is for me. The local dealer GM's are not even in the food chain pecking order till the very end.
I would think Honda will hold to its practice of keeping all the info in corporate till the revel date location is chosen. Then the dealers will get there regional meetings on the new product.
Same thing is taking place on the StingRay mid engine cars. Mules are being seen in camo all over the place but no one out side corporate knows squat. Couple guys got canned for leaking a crappy interior shoot that may or may not be accurate. Lots of rumors but no hard data.
I would think Honda will hold to its practice of keeping all the info in corporate till the revel date location is chosen. Then the dealers will get there regional meetings on the new product.
Same thing is taking place on the StingRay mid engine cars. Mules are being seen in camo all over the place but no one out side corporate knows squat. Couple guys got canned for leaking a crappy interior shoot that may or may not be accurate. Lots of rumors but no hard data.
The same GM told me that at the corporate meeting they where told that every Acura model would have a Type S variant and that was way out in front of any Acura press release from Corporate or any 3rd party article. I do believe they find out info when they attend the corporate meetings. To think they go to these meetings and get told zero about new models or changes coming in the near future seems very unlikely.
#54
I don't know if we will see a 2G TLX for 2020, but we certainly should. While I think the 2.4/DCT model is decent, it's considerably outgunned by the Accord 2.0T variants, which have Sensing and cost less. IMO, that's a bad situation for the "premium" brand, and I'm sure Acura knows it. So, I wouldn't be surprised if we do indeed see a 2G TLX for the 2020 model year. (Then again, we still have the 1G ILX, which is just pathetic.)
I know the auto show folks probably don't know anything, but I'll ask them at the Philly auto show anyway.
I know the auto show folks probably don't know anything, but I'll ask them at the Philly auto show anyway.
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The same GM told me that at the corporate meeting they where told that every Acura model would have a Type S variant and that was way out in front of any Acura press release from Corporate or any 3rd party article. I do believe they find out info when they attend the corporate meetings. To think they go to these meetings and get told zero about new models or changes coming in the near future seems very unlikely.
#56
There are four lights!
So, there's a MDX Type-S mule as well now. Acura is going to be an interesting brand these next few years (hopefully).
https://www.motor1.com/news/302361/a...-type-s-spied/
https://www.motor1.com/news/302361/a...-type-s-spied/
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Meh. I only believe what I can see on the dealer lot, or is officially announced.
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#58
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The Accord platform cannot handle a six cylinder engine (Accord and Civic are on the same platform now). The TLX will be based on the RDX platform, which is designed to handle the turbo six.
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Well it's a good sign that both the driver and passenger inside the MDX spy shots have a grin on their face
#60
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I sure hope the TLX in 2020 comes out soon. The lease on my 2016 TLX will be up in June.
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#61
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No kidding. Remember the Acura minivan that was caught on the road a few years back? Probably some R&D exercise, but would have been cool to know the back story. I'm still wondering why nothing has been caught on the road yet with a new body style if they're even remotely considering a 2G TLX in 2020.
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No kidding. Remember the Acura minivan that was caught on the road a few years back? Probably some R&D exercise, but would have been cool to know the back story. I'm still wondering why nothing has been caught on the road yet with a new body style if they're even remotely considering a 2G TLX in 2020.
#63
Next gen TLX:
- 2.0t/10AT FWD
- 2.0t/10AT SH-AWD
- 2.0t/???? Hybrid FWD
- 3.0t/10AT SH-AWD *Type-S
- All new, Acura exclusive modular sedan platform that’s no longer Honda Accord based and has front DWB suspension.
- Significant upgrades in design, performance, materials, infotainment ETC ETC.
- SH-AWD 4.0 (debuted in the 2019 RDX) which has more rear bias and can handle more power/torque.
- 2.0t/10AT FWD
- 2.0t/10AT SH-AWD
- 2.0t/???? Hybrid FWD
- 3.0t/10AT SH-AWD *Type-S
- All new, Acura exclusive modular sedan platform that’s no longer Honda Accord based and has front DWB suspension.
- Significant upgrades in design, performance, materials, infotainment ETC ETC.
- SH-AWD 4.0 (debuted in the 2019 RDX) which has more rear bias and can handle more power/torque.
#64
No kidding. Remember the Acura minivan that was caught on the road a few years back? Probably some R&D exercise, but would have been cool to know the back story. I'm still wondering why nothing has been caught on the road yet with a new body style if they're even remotely considering a 2G TLX in 2020.
#66
Check out the front brakes on this test mule as they look to be 6 piston units. Also the track has been widened on this all new platform as you can tell by the wheel arch additions. This car will be new from the ground up and share only the 2.0t/10AT with the Accord.
#68
Burning Brakes
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Will add that honda with the accord an civic make significant body changes on new models. I expect Acura with every TL/TLX model change will follow suit as that has been the norm. Still think they will run one more year as I was told on the current gen. The mid cycle update (minus a type S) was much more than normal for acura.
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#69
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#70
Hope you are right, two thing would make me believe it. First that a new model is out at the NY auto show on display. The second being they start clearing out the old models fast. When the mid cycle update came out the 4Cyl models were scarce as they are the higher volume variants and were hard to get at a point.. If they are still plentiful at dealers by mid year then a 2021 release is more certain.
Will add that honda with the accord an civic make significant body changes on new models. I expect Acura with every TL/TLX model change will follow suit as that has been the norm. Still think they will run one more year as I was told on the current gen. The mid cycle update (minus a type S) was much more than normal for acura.
Will add that honda with the accord an civic make significant body changes on new models. I expect Acura with every TL/TLX model change will follow suit as that has been the norm. Still think they will run one more year as I was told on the current gen. The mid cycle update (minus a type S) was much more than normal for acura.
the 2020 will be shown in NY with the car going on sale later this year. I don’t think the Type-S will be available right at launch but both trims will be shown at NY.
#72
6 Forward 1 Back
Next gen TLX test mules have been seen running the current body panels. They do this to keep the new design under wraps as they’re usually doing drivetrain testing with these test mules. They’re hand assembled and merely mules, not production models. You wont see the actual next gen body until near the end of development but they’re always heavily camouflaged. The next gen TLX has been seen testing with the Mercedes C43 AMG, a NSX and an Audi S4 on few occasions.
#75
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Again, “meh” until I see real sheet metal. Hoping it’s true. Right now, even Hyundai/Genesis is far ahead of Acura in enthusiast car development. For me, 13 months until lease pull-ahead time. Hopefully, There will be a TLX-S by then to keep me interested.
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#76
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Even better news yet. I forgot about the previous rumors on the DWB suspension, which the RDX does not have.
#77
That doesn't look just like any mule. It literally looks just like they put stickers on a current gen TLX and cut out the exhausts. How come I can't put it past Acura to release a 2020 model Type S based on the current generation TLX, like they did with the last couple of years 2007-2008 TL's. The 2019 model year will be the 5th model year. They went 6 years with the last TL generation. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell. There's less than 3 months until NY auto show. . .
Next gen TLX will be offered as follows:
- 2.0t/10AT FWD
- 2.0t/10AT SH-AWD
- 2.0t/10?? FWD Hybrid
- 3.0t/10AT SH-AWD Type-S
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