NJToyMan

I believe that the "repair procedure" is to remove and replace the transmission in the affected units.

tmitch2315

Did I miss it? Is there a list of VINs of the units that need inspection. Thanks

Quandry

No list published so far, but the dealers seem to have that information.

Mr Hyde

No published list, but you can check your VIN here

American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Divisions

and here

https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/

Im going to add these to the 1st post

tlxsteve

Cool. Check both places. My TLX is good with no recalls.

Thanks.

Year: 2015 Make: Acura Model: TLX
Number of Open Recalls: 0

NJToyMan

Just briefly spoke with my service manager regarding the inspection process. He told me that the "team" was recently at his dealership, and they did discover one of the vehicles "on stop sale" in the lot that failed the inspection and will need a new transmission installed.
He also told me that they use a special $50,000 video camera to peek inside to look for the failure.
He didn't know much about how "customers" will be handled once the inspections begin in January; or how the dealerships will have access to the special camera that is used (unless a different procedure will take place for the cars already out on the road).

NBP04TL4ME

Interesting.

Quandry

Those links not seem to know about my Canadian VIN.

Colin

There are a limited number of these special tools and this is why the inspection is being handled only by the factory team. From what I've heard, they plan to get to every dealership by the end of the year. I will be curious to learn what they'll do for cars in the field.

Edit: learned that a team is here in Honolulu today to inspect our cars.

Colin

All ours passed inspection.

Stew4HD

How many units were sidelined?

Colin

We were 0-19

Stew4HD

I know you all were happy to be able to put them back into action!

NBP04TL4ME

Colin - Probably gives you an advantage with your inventory available for sale while other dealers wait for their inspections.

Jayellin

I picked up my TLX V6 SH AWD mid Nov and my VIN does NOT bring up the recall. Now my dealer says it only the FWD so far

Colin

Nah, no other dealers in our neck of the woods. However, it's good to have everything available again.

BEAR-AvHistory

Excuse me, but my '06 TL had 3rd & reverse replaced under a TSB. They were notorious for hard shifting into & popping out of 3rd gear. Under the TSB Honda provided a kit for the rebuild.

The first quick & dirty solution was to dump the factory fill & replace it with GM friction modified trans oil. Was good for awhile but in the low 20K miles range the trans had to come out & get rebuilt. FWIW Honda eventually matched the GM oil with its own brand, was most likely the same stuff relabeled.

ggesq

iTrader: (1)

Not necessarily true but 3G members have had a lot of luck with the GM friction modified fluid.

Edit- bear nailed it above.

Mr Hyde

Haven't poked around too much on this car yet, but what's their access point? Is this a "sealed" Zf tranny with only drain and fill points under the car like a differential?
Or is there an access point from above?

dime4dice

do you think this is right guys? The TLX is a nice car. Test drove it and it drives very comfortable. however i decided to purchase an accord sport 14. For a car that was released in august, already having transmission recalls? im not trying to start any discussion, i just wish Acura gets it together.

Colin

The inspection is done through the fill port. I didn't see it myself, but it seems like its a pretty sophisticated camera that records video of the transmission in operation. I heard each inspection took around 1/2 hour, much of it being documentation.

tmitch2315

Just wondering how come we have the same transmission that is in the $ 21,500 Chrysler 200.

"The Chrysler 200 is the only car in its class to offer a nine-speed automatic transmission+. The nine-speed automatic includes a Rotary E-shift. It features a wide gear ratio spread that provides smooth transfer between gears and high efficiency in all gears and speeds."

Ours does not even have a "smooth transfer between gears" ?????????

Stew4HD

I guess we are getting ripped off, big time! OMG!


Mine has a smooth transfer! Who decides what is smooth and what isn't anyway?

BEAR-AvHistory

If you can tell it shifted because of the RPM drop its smooth. If you know it shifted because of a little or big bump its not smooth. Usually the difference between comfort & sport modes

Stew4HD

I find that it depends on how fast you are accelerating too. Most cars will shift hard if you are accelerating hard and vice versa.

Oh and Merry Christmas, Bear!

Rocketsfan

Don't tell anybody, but I hear the gasoline may be the same, too. This is outrageous!

Colin

^^^ lol

Stew4HD

It's good to see some folks with a sense of humor on here! Weather, where are you?

neuronbob

I am glad to see that Acura is dealing with this problem in record time. It's been about 3-4 weeks and cars are being cleared left and right.

BEAR-AvHistory

Just a few things. The MT also craps out when the builder screws up. As for the wrong gear not being selected look up "MONEY SHIFT".

The very first widespread application of the Automatic Transmission was during WWII when US made tanks & self propelled artillery were equipped with the GM's 1940 Allison Division CD-850 auto Transmission. Later in the war 6X6 trucks were delivered with them. Not typical housewife use.

Post war Oldsmobiles were advertised with combat tested "Hyda-Matic" Transmissions.

Personally worked on a lot of Allison Tank & Truck transmission during my military service. Also have both MT & AT's in the driveway. MT's are fun but if its for pure performance AT/DCT are the only way to go.

Rocketsfan

There's always going to be shifting beliefs and ideology as to what's cool and what's "manly". I'm sure some guy was bitching about the old days were better when he had to hand-crank his damn car to start it. Model A's for life, SUCKAZ! This is how real men started cars (not like sissies nowadays) : Hand Cranking - Safe and Easy

weather

I have decided to not give my opinion on whether the Manual or Automatic is faster/better because that is a battle not worth fighting. I can appreciate people coming on the forum and saying..."I prefer a manual than an automatic because I love rowing my own gears and it gives me a better sense of engagement" and just leave it at that.

No need to get in trying to convince the others why you have your opinion...It is YOUR opinion and own it and wear it proudly. Why do people insist on trying to convince others that they should think like them...can we all accept that we have difference of opinions and that is fine.

Case and point....I test drove the TLX and didn't like how the throttle response felt to ME. When people are asking me why I have not leased a TLX so far, I state my reason but don't try and convince other people to not buy the TLX because I didn't like its throttle response. There are many people here who don't seem to mind it or experienced what I did, now mind you, my experience is with a limited sample. I don't poop on people for having bought the TLX....I think overall it is a FANTASTIC car and I am delighted to see people that I enjoy spending time online with are happy with their purchase...Who knows, I may be getting one of my own in the future or another Acura product.

Bottom line, people are allowed to express their opinion and their preference...that is the point of forums in general. Just don't try and impose your preference and viewpoint on others. That will make Acurazine much more better in general....

I guess I just did what I am asking others not to do by imposing my viewpoint on others (blushing) but this is for the betterment of the forum and all members that always seem to be attacked or provoked....

neuronbob

Wasn't this thread about Acura's entirely appropriate stop sale and recall on the 9AT in the TLX? Which, by the way has been dealt with VERY quickly? Gives me hope for Acura overall that they cleaned up the mess their supplier caused so fast.

Those who want to fight the old manual vs. automatic fight can do so in Car Talk , please. PS--I guess I'm a Luddite too, I love my manual transmissions, too.

Mr Hyde

Agreed Weather. People don't have to agree always, but subjective viewpoints are just that. You don't have to agree, just respect others subjective opinions as you would want yours respected.

That said, things have gone a little downhill lately, and things are going to be tightened up. Threads ate continuously getting derailed, and it needs to be stopped.

EDIT: Spent some time cleaning this thread up to keep it pertinent, and relevant. Expectations are that everyone else will do the same.

kosh2258

Don't take the marketing hype at face value. Chrysler has had several TSBs and recalls for rough shifting/shifting problems with this transmission. They had a stop sale on the Jeep Cherokee for a while because of shifting program issues.

The hesitation between shifts 4-5 and 8-9 are inherent to the design. While Chrysler and Acura share the physical transmission the programming of the transmission is up to the manufacturer. (Chrysler actually has two versions, one they make under license and the other they buy from ZF - the one Acura uses).

Sad fact of life; the more complicated things get the more likely it is that some problem will surface because there's no way to test every possible combination of events.

Why do they use the same transmission? Because both needed a transmission like this and neither had the resources to develop their own in the time available. So, they both bought it from ZF. The transmission is also used in the Land Rover Evoque.

vhtran

^ Thanks Kosh. I have been having this question myself (about car manufactures use the same transmission or licensed to produce) and haven't been able to find an answer.

kevTL888

it's only for V6 as title says

Colin

Transmissions are capital investments since they normally last over several product cycles (like engines). In the last few years, Honda released a slew of new ones all developed in house (as far as we know), including the worlds first DCT for a motorcycle, the Fit Hybrid 7DCT, Accord CVT, RLX Hybrid 7DCT, TLX 8DCT, and (not sure if it's different from Accord but assumed) a Fit CVT for N. America. Also, not sure if its dramatically different from the RLX Hybrid, but it's assumed that the NSX 7DCT has to be different since its longitudinally mounted.

The fact that they outsourced the 9AT for transverse V6s is interesting. I guess it's possible they ran out of resources, or maybe the effects of the earthquake and tsunami are more widespread that we'll ever know. Despite the volume generated by the TLX and probably future MDX, RDX, Pilot, etc. (all essentially N. American products) maybe there isn't enough global volume for a new in-house V6 transmission?

Randy4

My White Belanove Pearl advance early production manufactured in August is part of the recall. So far I have not heard from my dealer what the fix will be. I like op, never set the parking brake. Just to make certain, at this point on an incline I do press the button for the emergency brake.

oracion

My WBP Advance is not affected. I was wondering if you have checked your VIN on the Honda recall web page: http://www.honda.com/recalls