Acura TLX V6 Under Stop Sale and Recall Notice (transmission problem)?

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Old 12-14-2014, 09:21 PM
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Maybe for a new release car they should have gone for the ZF8 instead of the newer 9spd.
Old 12-14-2014, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Maybe for a new release car they should have gone for the ZF8 instead of the newer 9spd.
Won't work; the ZF 8 is for longitudinal mounting, the new 9AT is specifically for transverse applications.
(Autonews link may not work)
http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...missions-in-s.
The 9-speed automatic is for vehicles with transverse mounted engines, while the 8-speed is used in rear-wheel-drive vehicles, such as Chrysler Group's Ram pickup.
Anyway, it seems like they've finished the inspection procedure and validation so there is a plan they're preparing to implement. I'm sure we'll learn more soon. I expect this to be resolved quickly.
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Old 12-15-2014, 12:29 PM
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It is why I never ever bought a first year car . There always gonna be some problems, small or large. Just be patient if you really like the car, wait a bit .

Yeah, the stampede to be 1st in buying any new model nets you higher prices paid and you get to be the last step in the QC cycle! Wait at least a year and the car is more sorted out and you can get a better deal!
Old 12-15-2014, 10:29 PM
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Yeah, the stampede to be 1st in buying any new model nets you higher prices paid and you get to be the last step in the QC cycle! Wait at least a year and the car is more sorted out and you can get a better deal!
Where is the fun and excitement in that?

I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tlxsteve
Where is the fun and excitement in that?

I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
Plus, we get to drive what very few people drive!

It might not be a stampede but there are a lot of people buying TLX's.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:39 AM
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That's a risk someone should consider when getting a new car generation packed with so many new technologies. Some people would rather wait a couple of years when the new stuff becomes more mature.
Old 12-16-2014, 07:12 AM
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I have absolutely no remorse after buying my TLX. This tranny issue is being dealt with and won't cost me anything except a little time to take it to the dealer and pick up a loaner. It's not an emergency since all you have to do is use the parking brake to be on the safe side. Actually you should use it every time you park but I realize a lot of people these days just can't be bothered with personal responsibility and common sense. They would rather just complain about things like spoiled children.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:38 PM
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I think it's interesting that while Acura's initial reliability is ranked low their dependability is very high. So, they have a higher number of initial issues out of the gate, but once addressed they're dealt with and you move on, I guess? Versus, lets say BMW which has a higher IQS score, but a lower VDS score. Personally, I'd rather suffer through a few trips to the dealer at the beginning of ownership and then have a relatively trouble free car, than have a trouble free car initially and then get my "gotchas" later down the road when the warranty has faded into the sunset.



And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.

J.D. Power states:

"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."

It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.

Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dysonlu
And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.

J.D. Power states:

"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."

It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.

Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
And yet, there are plenty of people (we've seen a few here) that use the IQS findings as gospel when buying a car without reading the fine print. To me, it's dependability that truly matters.
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Originally Posted by dysonlu
And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.

J.D. Power states:

"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."

It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.

Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol

I also don't read too much into this survey, especially when it shows MB at #2... Based on my past experiences with two ML350's, and the issues friends and family have had with MB's I find it laughable everytime I see this..

However, on another note. Based on past and current experience owning Lexus products I can understand how they rank #1..
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:05 PM
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Could not disagree more with the two previous post. When you go from #3, #3, #6 to #25 in the last four years that is a major concern. This can be supported by all the major issues that TLX's and RLX's are having. As currently stated having bought 12 new Acura's and friends previously that have bought many and we never had a problem in early models. The other concern is are these and other potential problems going to be coming up in the future and than effect Acura's dependability score. A highly risky $30,000-$60,000 bet in my opinion.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:58 PM
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Disagree all you want. JD Powers is a survey.. take from that what you want. Go buy a Lexus then

"ALL THE MAJOR ISSUES"???? What major issues are your spreading your FUD about now?

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Originally Posted by tlxsteve
Where is the fun and excitement in that?

I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
Post of the day. LOL!
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:34 PM
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Inspections could start today with the goal to have all TLXs ready for sale by the end of December.
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That's pretty fast. Nice job, Acura!
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Do you know what the inspection consists of and/or how invasive it is?
Old 12-16-2014, 06:47 PM
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Not invasive at all, but I'm not sure what should be shared at this point. I'm sure full details will emerge soon.
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Old 12-16-2014, 06:49 PM
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Thanks Colin. We understand.
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The new cars are getting too complicated and that is the source of many problems. You practically need a PHD to learn how to use all the features. I don't think I will be buying any new ones for a while. Hanging on to my 2012 Tsx wagon,12 Rdx(1g), 14 TL-SHAwd and 11Mdx for now. Still haven't figured out all the features they have.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
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Originally Posted by tlxsteve
Where is the fun and excitement in that?

I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
Being a software beta tester can be fun, because the software can always be updated.

Being a hardware beta tester, after spending $40k, is not fun, since you're pretty much stuck with what you have until your piece of hardware. The fun period is after you take it home, but before you actually come across a problem you really don't want to live with.

However, you're right about making friends. If nothing else, misery loves company
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Originally Posted by poeycat
You practically need a PHD to learn how to use all the features.
Oh, thank for the honorary award, so now I am Dr. Quandry.
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Not invasive

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Not invasive at all, but I'm not sure what should be shared at this point. I'm sure full details will emerge soon.
If it's not invasive in the search for contamination, it must be based on VIN
and/or date code only.
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If it's not invasive in the search for contamination, it must be based on VIN
and/or date code only.
Maybe they simply put it in park and if it doesn't roll away, then it is OK.
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Rollin, Rollin, rollin keep those babies rollin!

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Maybe they simply put it in park and if it doesn't roll away, then it is OK.
You've just been elevated to Acura quality engineer! Lol!
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Originally Posted by tlxsteve
Where is the fun and excitement in that?

I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
rule of thumb -- "substance over form"
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Originally Posted by poeycat
The new cars are getting too complicated and that is the source of many problems. You practically need a PHD to learn how to use all the features. I don't think I will be buying any new ones for a while. Hanging on to my 2012 Tsx wagon,12 Rdx(1g), 14 TL-SHAwd and 11Mdx for now. Still haven't figured out all the features they have.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
I guess your commitment to Acura can't be questioned You should apply for dealership status!
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As much as I would like Acura to come up with a quick fix for the two harder shifts in the 9 speed, I am getting used to feathering the throttle to minimize them. Because I also have a 2014 Altima 2.5 SL Tech with CVT, the shifts are more noticeable for now. Otherwise, I love my 3.5 SH_AWD Tech! It's several cuts above the 3 second gen TSXs i had. It is a great combo of handling, performance, looks, comfort, and technology.
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Acura Canada is currently sending out Inspection Teams to dealerships equipped with special tools to inspect every TLX identified in the stop sale.
Silverhill Acura is one of the first to go through the inspection process and as of today have completed over 60 inspections with zero fault found.
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Update: TLX V6 9AT Stop Sale Units - 12/19/14
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At least honda is working on the issue and is keeping the public updated.
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At least honda is working on the issue and is keeping the public updated.
Well, they're keeping the dealerships updated. Those of us driving the car are still in the dark.
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Well, they're keeping the dealerships updated. Those of us driving the car are still in the dark.
No you're not You are fully informed here.
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Old 12-20-2014, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
No you're not You are fully informed here.
I was thinking the same thing and while that is true, the percentage of the TLX driving public probably isn't that high here on AZ. However it always pays to be an AZ member/part of the family.
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If this is not an invasive procedure, what's up with the reference at the end of the video to "opening and buttoning (the car) up"?
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Originally Posted by NJToyMan
If this is not an invasive procedure, what's up with the reference at the end of the video to "opening and buttoning (the car) up"?
They want someone to line up the cars, open the hoods and fill port, make sure the batteries are charged, and then follow behind the technician to close it all up again.
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They want someone to line up the cars, open the hoods and fill port, make sure the batteries are charged, and then follow behind the technician to close it all up again.
Thanks for the info!
Is the team that is going to all the dealerships now to certify all the cars in inventory going to be inspecting all the other cars subject to recall "in the wild" (like mine) after the first of the new year- or are they also now training the techs at all the dealerships with the proper procedure??
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I purchased my TLX Advance on the 18th. The salesman told me that the transmission had been inspected and cleared. Salesmen wouldn't lie would they?
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Inspection teams are only going out now, BUT not all VINs were affected so it's likely yours was already in the clear.
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Is that pic in post 57 actually a pic of the TLX part under discussion?
The "technology" illustrated by that picture is exactly the same as the parking "gear" and pawl in all the transmissions I used to work on 30 years ago. There is nothing new or high tech about a parking pawl.
There may be something new or different in the way it is "activated" or applied. (?) Maybe there is an automated motorized application of Park rather than a mechanical selection of Park by the driver via a cable or a rod. (?)
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Repair procedure

Originally Posted by Colin
They want someone to line up the cars, open the hoods and fill port, make sure the batteries are charged, and then follow behind the technician to close it all up again.
Did I miss it, or has acura not described what the repair procedure is for cars that are inspected and found to have the defect? Seems the only thing under discussion is the inspection procedure, which also does not appear to describe what precisely the inspectors are looking at or looking for. I did watch the video issued for the dealers.


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