Acura TLX V6 Under Stop Sale and Recall Notice (transmission problem)?
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Maybe for a new release car they should have gone for the ZF8 instead of the newer 9spd.
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(Autonews link may not work)
http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...missions-in-s.
The 9-speed automatic is for vehicles with transverse mounted engines, while the 8-speed is used in rear-wheel-drive vehicles, such as Chrysler Group's Ram pickup.
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Yeah, the stampede to be 1st in buying any new model nets you higher prices paid and you get to be the last step in the QC cycle! Wait at least a year and the car is more sorted out and you can get a better deal!
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I love being a beta tester and meeting new friends.
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That's a risk someone should consider when getting a new car generation packed with so many new technologies. Some people would rather wait a couple of years when the new stuff becomes more mature.
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I have absolutely no remorse after buying my TLX. This tranny issue is being dealt with and won't cost me anything except a little time to take it to the dealer and pick up a loaner. It's not an emergency since all you have to do is use the parking brake to be on the safe side. Actually you should use it every time you park but I realize a lot of people these days just can't be bothered with personal responsibility and common sense. They would rather just complain about things like spoiled children.
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I think it's interesting that while Acura's initial reliability is ranked low their dependability is very high. So, they have a higher number of initial issues out of the gate, but once addressed they're dealt with and you move on, I guess? Versus, lets say BMW which has a higher IQS score, but a lower VDS score. Personally, I'd rather suffer through a few trips to the dealer at the beginning of ownership and then have a relatively trouble free car, than have a trouble free car initially and then get my "gotchas" later down the road when the warranty has faded into the sunset.
And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.
J.D. Power states:
"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."
It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.
Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
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And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.
J.D. Power states:
"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."
It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.
Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
J.D. Power states:
"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."
It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.
Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
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And frankly, I don't know what the point is to evaluate 90-days quality.
J.D. Power states:
"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."
It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.
Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
J.D. Power states:
"A key finding of this year's study is that nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate."
It's a completely made-up survey that has little significance in my book.
Maybe it's done as consolation prize for some manufacturers who perform poorly on long-term reliability? lol
I also don't read too much into this survey, especially when it shows MB at #2... Based on my past experiences with two ML350's, and the issues friends and family have had with MB's I find it laughable everytime I see this..
However, on another note. Based on past and current experience owning Lexus products I can understand how they rank #1..
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Stew4HD (12-16-2014)
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Could not disagree more with the two previous post. When you go from #3, #3, #6 to #25 in the last four years that is a major concern. This can be supported by all the major issues that TLX's and RLX's are having. As currently stated having bought 12 new Acura's and friends previously that have bought many and we never had a problem in early models. The other concern is are these and other potential problems going to be coming up in the future and than effect Acura's dependability score. A highly risky $30,000-$60,000 bet in my opinion.
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Disagree all you want. JD Powers is a survey.. take from that what you want. Go buy a Lexus then
"ALL THE MAJOR ISSUES"???? What major issues are your spreading your FUD about now?
"ALL THE MAJOR ISSUES"???? What major issues are your spreading your FUD about now?
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Inspections could start today with the goal to have all TLXs ready for sale by the end of December.
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That's pretty fast. Nice job, Acura!
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Do you know what the inspection consists of and/or how invasive it is?
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Not invasive at all, but I'm not sure what should be shared at this point. I'm sure full details will emerge soon.
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Thanks Colin. We understand.
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The new cars are getting too complicated and that is the source of many problems. You practically need a PHD to learn how to use all the features. I don't think I will be buying any new ones for a while. Hanging on to my 2012 Tsx wagon,12 Rdx(1g), 14 TL-SHAwd and 11Mdx for now. Still haven't figured out all the features they have.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
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Being a hardware beta tester, after spending $40k, is not fun, since you're pretty much stuck with what you have until your piece of hardware. The fun period is after you take it home, but before you actually come across a problem you really don't want to live with.
However, you're right about making friends. If nothing else, misery loves company
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The new cars are getting too complicated and that is the source of many problems. You practically need a PHD to learn how to use all the features. I don't think I will be buying any new ones for a while. Hanging on to my 2012 Tsx wagon,12 Rdx(1g), 14 TL-SHAwd and 11Mdx for now. Still haven't figured out all the features they have.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
I don't know what all the fuss is about having so many gears. I think 6 is plenty. Had a 54 Chevy with a powerglide 2 gear transmission and that was great.
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As much as I would like Acura to come up with a quick fix for the two harder shifts in the 9 speed, I am getting used to feathering the throttle to minimize them. Because I also have a 2014 Altima 2.5 SL Tech with CVT, the shifts are more noticeable for now. Otherwise, I love my 3.5 SH_AWD Tech! It's several cuts above the 3 second gen TSXs i had. It is a great combo of handling, performance, looks, comfort, and technology.
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Acura Canada is currently sending out Inspection Teams to dealerships equipped with special tools to inspect every TLX identified in the stop sale.
Silverhill Acura is one of the first to go through the inspection process and as of today have completed over 60 inspections with zero fault found.
Silverhill Acura is one of the first to go through the inspection process and as of today have completed over 60 inspections with zero fault found.
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They want someone to line up the cars, open the hoods and fill port, make sure the batteries are charged, and then follow behind the technician to close it all up again.
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Is the team that is going to all the dealerships now to certify all the cars in inventory going to be inspecting all the other cars subject to recall "in the wild" (like mine) after the first of the new year- or are they also now training the techs at all the dealerships with the proper procedure??
#238
Inspection teams are only going out now, BUT not all VINs were affected so it's likely yours was already in the clear.
#239
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Is that pic in post 57 actually a pic of the TLX part under discussion?
The "technology" illustrated by that picture is exactly the same as the parking "gear" and pawl in all the transmissions I used to work on 30 years ago. There is nothing new or high tech about a parking pawl.
There may be something new or different in the way it is "activated" or applied. (?) Maybe there is an automated motorized application of Park rather than a mechanical selection of Park by the driver via a cable or a rod. (?)
The "technology" illustrated by that picture is exactly the same as the parking "gear" and pawl in all the transmissions I used to work on 30 years ago. There is nothing new or high tech about a parking pawl.
There may be something new or different in the way it is "activated" or applied. (?) Maybe there is an automated motorized application of Park rather than a mechanical selection of Park by the driver via a cable or a rod. (?)
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Repair procedure
Did I miss it, or has acura not described what the repair procedure is for cars that are inspected and found to have the defect? Seems the only thing under discussion is the inspection procedure, which also does not appear to describe what precisely the inspectors are looking at or looking for. I did watch the video issued for the dealers.