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It was also reported today that this summer's new RDX will allow for "over the air" software updates (like Tesla does). If this technology is ported over to other future model changes- that will be a nice step forward for Acura to constantly enhance products once released.
It was also reported today that this summer's new RDX will allow for "over the air" software updates (like Tesla does). If this technology is ported over to other future model changes- that will be a nice step forward for Acura to constantly enhance products once released.
I'm not sure what you are expecting. Acura has always been Honda+. The new RDX sounds like Honda+++, over the CR-V.You need to keep in mind that Honda is a baby compared to Toyota, or the likes. For Acura to survive, they need shit from Honda. Honda is one of the only remaining car companies not owned by someone else- the only way they can continue that is by spreading R&D across both companies. Lexus is way bigger than Acura could ever be, and even Lexus borrows shit from Toyota on the regular.Be realistic with your expectations .
Agreed.
One important thing to note here is the current design of the TLX dash used the Accord design philosophy (same two screen layout) - then made some tweaks to it. Call it Honda+ if you like. Now compare the design of the new Accord dash with the design of the new RDX and we see TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGNS. It looks like we have an Acura design and a Honda design. Not Honda+ in this case. I'd be shocked if the next gen TLX doesn't follow with the RDX design philosophy.
40% more torque than outgoing V6 engine, unless they'll release more data soon. I think they said more info about Aspec model later this month
You read that wrong. It's 40% more torque down low in the rpm range- what turbo engines are known for- not 40% torque across the whole rpm range. Sorry, I just don't want people coming back and saying "I thought this was supposed to have 360lbft of torque!? What gives?!"
What they meant is that it delivers torque way early on, as opposed to having to wait to 5500rpm for peak torque. Looking at other turbo engines, this should have peak torque by 1600-2000rpm.
Never owned an SUV, but I have to say I want the new RDX - from what i've seen. Love the 1-1 mapping of a convenient touch pad for the display screen, the improved 3D ELS system, actual wood and brushed aluminum, etc. etc. It also looks great inside and out! It makes sense they seriously improve their bread and butter SUVs. If they have many of these features in a new TLX when my lease comes up, it will be a toss up.
Never owned an SUV, but I have to say I want the new RDX - from what i've seen. Love the 1-1 mapping of a convenient touch pad for the display screen, the improved 3D ELS system, actual wood and brushed aluminum, etc. etc. It also looks great inside and out! It makes sense they seriously improve their bread and butter SUVs. If they have many of these features in a new TLX when my lease comes up, it will be a toss up.
Ha - I've never owned an SUV either - but my wife bought a 2016 CRV and I have to say I really enjoy it. The new RDX looks like a major step up from the CRV - I may be tempted in a few years!
You read that wrong. It's 40% more torque down low in the rpm range- what turbo engines are known for- not 40% torque across the whole rpm range. Sorry, I just don't want people coming back and saying "I thought this was supposed to have 360lbft of torque!? What gives?!"
What they meant is that it delivers torque way early on, as opposed to having to wait to 5500rpm for peak torque. Looking at other turbo engines, this should have peak torque by 1600-2000rpm.
Ah good point, my bad. But if they decide to give us 360lbft, can only say yes please lol
Nice to see Acura on the path. I still hate the button shifter and a whole lot of prime real estate was given to drive mode. Both strike me as form over function. It looks overall like a nice step forward.
Will be interesting to see how the design choices work out in the real world.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I have not considered a SUV in the search of a new car but the RDX might make things interesting.
It looks like the driver will be able to operate the infotainment system without leaning forward for the touch screen on many other cars which is a huge plus. The 3D ELS is also a big draw for me. I can't wait to see some reviews on how this thing drives.
Originally Posted by mapleloaf
Never owned an SUV, but I have to say I want the new RDX - from what i've seen. Love the 1-1 mapping of a convenient touch pad for the display screen, the improved 3D ELS system, actual wood and brushed aluminum, etc. etc. It also looks great inside and out! It makes sense they seriously improve their bread and butter SUVs. If they have many of these features in a new TLX when my lease comes up, it will be a toss up.
Ah good point, my bad. But if they decide to give us 360lbft, can only say yes please lol
Honestly, I think Hondata is probably the happiest company on the planet right now. I bet you they will have a tune for any turbo Honda/Acura application, in no time. We might not get 360lbft, but for 600-700 bucks, I'm sure you will get a nice, safe boost in peak power numbers. This has just opened the doors wide open for tuning and modding hondas and Acura's again. It now isn't as much of a problem to drop 2k on a full quality exhaust and intake system... the gains over an NA platform will be much more noticeable for the same price. Pair that with a tune... shiiiiet... you're no longer hoping to gain 25hp over stock, but likely 50-60hp, for the same price.
I'm not sure what you are expecting. Acura has always been Honda+. The new RDX sounds like Honda+++, over the CR-V.You need to keep in mind that Honda is a baby compared to Toyota, or the likes. For Acura to survive, they need shit from Honda. Honda is one of the only remaining car companies not owned by someone else- the only way they can continue that is by spreading R&D across both companies. Lexus is way bigger than Acura could ever be, and even Lexus borrows shit from Toyota on the regular.Be realistic with your expectations .
Honestly I don’t even see it as Honda anymore. I have been especially critical and vocal of how much I dislike current acura models but to call this new RDX a Honda+ is unfair. Yes it shares a platform with the CRV but it has the 10AT and 2.0T of the Accord but Acura is not a huge company. The real wood, real aluminum. 16 speaker sound system, napa leather seats....etc. They finally are trying hard enough and I’m glad they stopped trying to be luxury and going back to performance. It finally looks like the real deal, it has an aggressivenes that hasn’t been around since the 3G TL. Anyone notice the muscular front frenders reminiscent of the 2G MDX? Yes they are calling it a prototype but I’m pretty sure this is production ready except for a couple small things.
Most interesting thing to me was the SH-AWD has a new differential to handle 150 lb/ft more torque. That is significant as far as the next gen TLX goes......
I thought the same thing, but here's what it looks like in Detroit. Thought it was interesting. . .
Well that kinda confirms that they accidentally leaked the A-spec rear bumper and that this is more than just a prototype. You don’t make 2 bumpers for a prototype!
You read that wrong. It's 40% more torque down low in the rpm range- what turbo engines are known for- not 40% torque across the whole rpm range. Sorry, I just don't want people coming back and saying "I thought this was supposed to have 360lbft of torque!? What gives?!"
What they meant is that it delivers torque way early on, as opposed to having to wait to 5500rpm for peak torque. Looking at other turbo engines, this should have peak torque by 1600-2000rpm.
Don't think they are ready to publish the numbers yet. Agree is 40% of what number. Depending on how they tune it is could be all in by 1200/1300RPM a very good thing. Also the ACURA equivalents of the JB4 will give whatever the factory delivers a major additional boost (pun intended) for minimal dollars.
WOW. I just watched some videos on the 19 RDX and correct, Acura finally took its head out of its ass. Wife is stoked as her lease is up in October. My TLX lease is also up then and I may decide to extend it a year to hold out to see what the 20 TLX looks like since maybe the V6 Turbo May land there or a RLX replacement. Glad to see SH-AWD back in the RDX.
Most interesting thing to me was the SH-AWD has a new differential to handle 150 lb/ft more torque. That is significant as far as the next gen TLX goes......
i think they said 150% more torque capacity, and I believe that's for comparing with the current rdx.
The 10AT seems like a decent transmission so far based on reviewed..Not sure about its reliability but it shifts fast and wouldn't have the same jerking issue as a dct. Having said that, I believe honda is developing a new 11 speed triple clutch tranny.
For the 2.0t, it'd a bread and butter engine choice for Acura going forward. So IMo a fancy tranny isn't really needed. Perhaps for the 3.0T though, may be we will see that new tranny.
I agree with most here, that this rdx goes far more than just. Honda plus. It got its own exclusive platform (front and rear portions are unique to the rdx, and the middle portion is similar to the one in the civic, accord , crv. This allows the car to fit a V6 and SHAWD). This isn't like before where almost everything in the Acura line up is on Honda platforms.
Acura is definitely trending well right now with this new car. I'd be hard pressed to buy the current RDX over the new CRV, but for the new RDX I'm glad that Acura didn't just make a few incremental improvements over the CRV and call it a day. They used the fantastic starting point of the new CRV and really nailed it. Let's just hope pricing is relatively unchanged from the old one...
But... You can only get a 1.5L engine in the new CRV!?! It's not a motorcycle, right? I mean if they had had the 2.0T as an option in the CRV when I visited the dealer, I'd own one already.
But... You can only get a 1.5L engine in the new CRV!?! It's not a motorcycle, right? I mean if they had had the 2.0T as an option in the CRV when I visited the dealer, I'd own one already.
The 1.5T is better than the old 2.4L. Torque is a wonderful thing.
My dad is looking for a new car as well and just like you if the CR-V has the 2.0T from the Accord he would have bought one already.
I'm hoping that Acura is back for good, not just for a few years and then drift off. Technology is moving so quickly these days it's easy to fall behind if you don't plan a new model or mid cycle refresh perfectly.
Originally Posted by Christopher.
But... You can only get a 1.5L engine in the new CRV!?! It's not a motorcycle, right? I mean if they had had the 2.0T as an option in the CRV when I visited the dealer, I'd own one already.
It was also reported today that this summer's new RDX will allow for "over the air" software updates (like Tesla does). If this technology is ported over to other future model changes- that will be a nice step forward for Acura to constantly enhance products once released.
Volvo does this now somewhat. You can update the maps every 6 months or so as well as apps. Soon hopefully they'll support OTA for the major system updates. I hope the TLX gets OTAs.
Nice to see Acura on the path. I still hate the button shifter and a whole lot of prime real estate was given to drive mode. Both strike me as form over function. It looks overall like a nice step forward.
Will be interesting to see how the design choices work out in the real world.
Yeah, the drive mode really did need the change to being a dial that you turn instead of a button you press mutiple times - but, I agree, it's ridiculous how much space they gave it.
But... You can only get a 1.5L engine in the new CRV!?! It's not a motorcycle, right? I mean if they had had the 2.0T as an option in the CRV when I visited the dealer, I'd own one already.
Think people should drive the 1.5 against the engine its replacing then make a decision. If you are not used to the low end torque of a turbo the engine size can mislead you.
Think people should drive the 1.5 against the engine its replacing then make a decision. If you are not used to the low end torque of a turbo the engine size can mislead you.
Lol! you are indeed misleaded. That 'torque' is a big [flat] joke. An Accord 2.4 is quicker than a 1.5, NOT the contrary.
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