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Old 01-15-2018, 10:13 AM
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Acura is back!

Exclusive V6T, Type-S, and TLX 2.4 Aspec (Aspec across all models) have all been confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!

No more fake materials, what you see if what you get (wood and metal).

ELS 3D is similar to Dolby Atmos (ceiling speakers).

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Photos or it didn't happen... Link? Video? Press materials? What is the source?
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Photos or it didn't happen... Link? Video? Press materials? What is the source?
Announced during the video press release for 2019 RDX (sorry, my bad):
https://www.clickondetroit.com/auto-...roit-auto-show

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Sounds like the Type-S is coming back "Someday"
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Sounds like the Type-S is coming back "Someday"
With the V6T being official, releasing a Type-S version should be easily done in near future like Infiniti with it's 400hp RS version. Just a question of when now, for TLX 2.0 no more excuses.
Old 01-15-2018, 10:58 AM
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Sounds like the Type-S is coming back "Someday"
"Next few years" I think was the exact quote. I suspect it will align with the next gen TLX.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:59 AM
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With the V6T being official, releasing a Type-S version should be easily done in near future like Infiniti with it's 400hp RS version. Just a question of when now, for TLX 2.0 no more excuses.
I'm with you. If Acura wants to be taken seriously, they need a V6T, a 2.0T. No more NA unless they went V8 (yeah right)
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:00 AM
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The new RDX interior looks pretty damn good. 2.0T with a 10-speed also confirmed. Excited to see how much of this will be reused on the next-gen TLX.
2019 Acura RDX Prototype First Look: Larger, Stiffer, More Powerful - Motor Trend
Old 01-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
The new RDX interior looks pretty damn good. 2.0T with a 10-speed also confirmed. Excited to see how much of this will be reused on the next-gen TLX.
2019 Acura RDX Prototype First Look: Larger, Stiffer, More Powerful - Motor Trend
I suspect you're pretty much looking at the interior of the next gen TLX, maybe with a few tweaks.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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Now if they all came with AWD standard, I would truly be excited.
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No product out but you claim Acura is back?

They're not back until I can sit and drive in one. And even then, it wouldn't mean they're back unless the product can "wow" me.

Let's see if Acura can put all the pieces together. Let's see if they can put out a great product again. Let's see if it can "wow" the press and maybe win Car of the Year like the Honda Accord just did. Only then can one say Acura is back.
Old 01-15-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
No product out but you claim Acura is back?

They're not back until I can sit and drive in one. And even then, it wouldn't mean they're back unless the product can "wow" me.

Let's see if Acura can put all the pieces together. Let's see if they can put out a great product again. Let's see if it can "wow" the press and maybe win Car of the Year like the Honda Accord just did. Only then can one say Acura is back.
From what they announced, if executed properly I would be scared if I'm in the German's shoes. The first one to be hit is the Q5, RDX interior is pretty nice and similar to what Audi has. And the RDX will be coming out this year, no imaginary product. Now the first question is how close to prototype will it be. The other questions are is it reliable, cheap, and UPDATED!
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
From what they announced, if executed properly I would be scared if I'm in the German's shoes. The first one to be hit is the Q5, RDX interior is pretty nice and similar to what Audi has. And the RDX will be coming out this year, no imaginary product. Now the first question is how close to prototype will it be. The other questions are is it reliable, cheap, and UPDATED!
Acura is definitely trending well right now with this new car. I'd be hard pressed to buy the current RDX over the new CRV, but for the new RDX I'm glad that Acura didn't just make a few incremental improvements over the CRV and call it a day. They used the fantastic starting point of the new CRV and really nailed it. Let's just hope pricing is relatively unchanged from the old one...
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Originally Posted by joshuco
Now if they all came with AWD standard, I would truly be excited.
that doesnt make any sense.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
From what they announced, if executed properly I would be scared if I'm in the German's shoes. The first one to be hit is the Q5, RDX interior is pretty nice and similar to what Audi has. And the RDX will be coming out this year, no imaginary product. Now the first question is how close to prototype will it be. The other questions are is it reliable, cheap, and UPDATED!
Acura's never really had a problem in the execution dept with regards to their SUV lineup. The car lineup on the other hand.... over a decade of missteps and wasted opportunity .
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Acura's never really had a problem in the execution dept with regards to their SUV lineup. The car lineup on the other hand.... over a decade of missteps and wasted opportunity .
Agreed, that's why if the basis of the new RDX is flawless and nicely applied to sedans, I'll have no problems coming back to Acura in 4 years. BUT, other companies will make changes too. The key is to keep up from now on.
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Acura's never really had a problem in the execution dept with regards to their SUV lineup. The car lineup on the other hand.... over a decade of missteps and wasted opportunity .
Fair enough - however given the direction of the new RDX I think it's fair for people to have some optimism regarding the changes that may take place with the sedans. In fact I would be very surprised if the TLX doesn't share many components with the new RDX as far as interior styling (Acura tends to share the same cockpit across all lines) and powertrains when they roll out the next generation.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:22 AM
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that doesnt make any sense.
Position themselves like subaru and have every car come with AWD. Will truly edge themselves away from being a fancy Honda.
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Of course, the same day I sign for a 18 TLX V6 Tech lease..

I assume most of these changes wont be on the TLX till my lease is over anyway
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Position themselves like subaru and have every car come with AWD. Will truly edge themselves away from being a fancy Honda.
Audi hasn't done that, yet they seem to be killing it these days in terms of brand perception.
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Of course, the same day I sign for a 18 TLX V6 Tech lease..

I assume most of these changes wont be on the TLX till my lease is over anyway
2020MY at the earliest, maybe even 2021 given that the RDX got a 6 year run before getting a full redesign.
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Originally Posted by joshuco
Position themselves like subaru and have every car come with AWD. Will truly edge themselves away from being a fancy Honda.
They stated in the presentation that the goal is to once again position themselves as the performance division of Honda. I'm guessing this means AWD options as well as more powerful (not just a 10 HP bump) drivetrain options.

Here's the exact quote: “Acura will pursue a unique powertrain strategy that underscores the brand's rightful place as the performance division of Honda."

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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
They stated in the presentation that the goal is to once again position themselves as the performance division of Honda. I'm guessing this means AWD options as well as more powerful (not just a 10 HP bump) drivetrain options.
Performance division, not luxury? Interesting...
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Performance division, not luxury? Interesting...
Acura was able to execute on performance (and fun) in the past. They never could do luxury though. So they're just going back to what they know and could do.
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Performance division, not luxury? Interesting...
Aye - granted this could be marketing-speak - we'll find out over the next couple years.
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So like I called it (yep, gonna toot my horn for 5 seconds, sorry). Ok, I'm over it. back to discussions!

I'm willing to bet all my apples that the 2G TLX will rock the 2.0T for the base TLX. It makes all the sense in the world for them to use that engine. The hopefully fire breathing V6T will be in the Type S... there's no reason for it not to be. I bet that V6T will eventually be implemented into the Ridge Line, the Pilot, the MDX, TLX-S, and the RLX, if they don't kill it off. THe V6T will be more or less exclusive to Acura... except in Honda's big "trucks".... but they will be tuned differently, for more torque, than horsepower at redline.

As for the TLX-S Coming out in a few years... I think this might be the first time we get a Type S at launch. At least that's what I'm hoping. We are a couple years away from getting the 2G- and seeing how the market is acting these days, waiting to release the TLX-S at the MMC is likely too little, too late, kind of deal.

If if my guesstimates are accurate, I'm pretty stoked to see the next few years. Nothing screams to me that the above is way out of whack. Given market trends, I think this is exactly what H and A are going after.
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Looking to the RDX , I may be back to Acura in 3 years to get the RDX.
Now, that they bring back the SH-AWD and hopefully the 10sp gearbox is not same flip as ZF , I may consider it.
I like what I see and I hope the production is like the concept and they don't tune it down as the TLX when was presented first time.
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Is anyone unhappy about the 10AT going into the RDX? I mean, a DCT would've been gangster, but I had a strong feeling that wasn't going to happen. Personally, as long as the reliability is good, I'm all good with the 10AT. It should make for a nice and quick RDX.

were power numbers discussed at the reveal of the RDX? I would imagine the base 2G TLX would have near identical numbers to the RDX
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In fact I would be very surprised if the TLX doesn't share many components with the new RDX as far as interior styling (Acura tends to share the same cockpit across all lines) and powertrains when they roll out the next generation.
Sounds like 2nd gen TLX will be another Honda+ then.

The new RDX has 2.0T, HUD, 10AT, etc like the new Honda Accord. Trickle up technologies. Acura needs to do better than that with the TLX. Give it something new and exclusive that Honda doesn't have. SH-AWD, slightly better NVH, and slightly nicer interior materials didn't work in the past and it isn't going to work in the future.

V6T is a start. Let's see what else can Acura come up with.
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I was hoping they'd do some kind of Virtual Cockpit like Audi for the gauge cluster. It appears to be a traditional gauge cluster again. Isn't the Accord all digital already? Besides that looking forward to what they do with the next gen TLX.
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The motortrend link posted a bit higher up- in it, right at the start they say Acura is calling the new RDX a prototype, but in reality, it is production ready.

I still feel the mirrors and wheels will change. Same with the 16 way adjustable drivers seat. Maybe some other minor stuff. If not, color me beyond impressed.
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TLX 2.4 Aspec
As a canuck, you might probably know that we already have it in Canada.
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Sounds like 2nd gen TLX will be another Honda+ then.

The new RDX has 2.0T, HUD, 10AT, etc like the new Honda Accord. Trickle up technologies. Acura needs to do better than that with the TLX. Give it something new and exclusive that Honda doesn't have. SH-AWD, slightly better NVH, and slightly nicer interior materials didn't work in the past and it isn't going to work in the future.

V6T is a start. Let's see what else can Acura come up with.
I'm not sure what you are expecting. Acura has always been Honda+. The new RDX sounds like Honda+++, over the CR-V.You need to keep in mind that Honda is a baby compared to Toyota, or the likes. For Acura to survive, they need shit from Honda. Honda is one of the only remaining car companies not owned by someone else- the only way they can continue that is by spreading R&D across both companies. Lexus is way bigger than Acura could ever be, and even Lexus borrows shit from Toyota on the regular.Be realistic with your expectations .
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Originally Posted by AZuser
Sounds like 2nd gen TLX will be another Honda+ then.

The new RDX has 2.0T, HUD, 10AT, etc like the new Honda Accord. Trickle up technologies. Acura needs to do better than that with the TLX. Give it something new and exclusive that Honda doesn't have. SH-AWD, slightly better NVH, and slightly nicer interior materials didn't work in the past and it isn't going to work in the future.

V6T is a start. Let's see what else can Acura come up with.
I highly disagree. I think they're styling is on point. Or at least getting there, with the RDX being the first to make use of the new design language on a new car... and it looks fantastic. I don't feel the new RDX is Honda+ at all. It's right where it needs to be, and seems to be packing a ton. It's shitty that Honda gets this stuff first, but it appears that's just how the model cycles are and you can't exactly switch them easily, to put Acura ahead of Honda. There is no way they can do it without losing a shit ton of money in the process. You're either ending Acura life cycles earlier, or extending Honda life cycles longer- none of which make sense for them, in terms of share holders and profits.What it does mean is that whenever Acura does get that tech- whatever it may be- they make it 2-3 years newer than what the Honda versions are. Likely means less bugs, and more features.
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Originally Posted by CheeseyPoofs McNut
"Next few years" I think was the exact quote. I suspect it will align with the next gen TLX.
yes....I actually wrote down "next few years" when he said it...then smiled
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I highly disagree. I think they're styling is on point.
I agree the RDX styling looks good. Never said it didn't. What will be more important, particularly for the TLX, is what's underneath the sheet metal.

Remember the TLX concept? Looked fantastic. Then Acura fudged up the actual release. Hopefully the same doesn't happen with the RDX. Just release it as is.
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I highly disagree. I think they're styling is on point. Or at least getting there, with the RDX being the first to make use of the new design language on a new car... and it looks fantastic. I don't feel the new RDX is Honda+ at all. It's right where it needs to be, and seems to be packing a ton. It's shitty that Honda gets this stuff first, but it appears that's just how the model cycles are and you can't exactly switch them easily, to put Acura ahead of Honda. There is no way they can do it without losing a shit ton of money in the process. You're either ending Acura life cycles earlier, or extending Honda life cycles longer- none of which make sense for them, in terms of share holders and profits.What it does mean is that whenever Acura does get that tech- whatever it may be- they make it 2-3 years newer than what the Honda versions are. Likely means less bugs, and more features.
In this case, letting them work out the kinks on the 2.0 turbo with the 10 speed on the Accord bf the RDX is a good thing. I am really needing a new ride and not sure if I can wait much beyond the summer, so I hope that they get the powertrain right. Love the new RDX. Looks good inside and out.
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Yup, more for the "aspec for everyone" part. Makes sense to do it to all models, extra cash for them.
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were power numbers discussed at the reveal of the RDX? I would imagine the base 2G TLX would have near identical numbers to the RDX
40% more torque than outgoing V6 engine, unless they'll release more data soon. I think they said more info about Aspec model later this month


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