Tony Pac

I know people have discussed this before BUT please stop comparing Accord to TLX/TL. I went for a test drive for both cars yesterday for my brother. OMG! There is no freaking comparison. The power, handling, seats and dash material are not the same at all. How can you compare the handling of an Accord to a TLX??? if you believe both cars are the same, then honestly you have no clue about driving and handling.

If carplay is a dealer breaker for you guys, then don't bother with an Accord. Go for a Korean car...it's even cheaper.

Those who are cross shopping and asking people here for an opinion, please do yourself a HUGE favor. Go test drive both cars

Kense

The Accord Looks Better than the TLX, it's also cheaper and you get damn near the same stuff minus AWD and suspension that you can just buy aftermarket anyways.

Buy This, Not That: Honda Accord Touring vs. Acura TLX

alpha0

With current discounts on 2017 TLX, shawd with tech pkg should not be costing way more compared to V6 accord touring.

iforyou

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lol, Tony specifically compared the driving experience, the handling, and the interior quality, not feature content or styling......

pyrodan007

Well the TLX is not a staple of performance either. It may be better than the Accord but not too much that it warrants the price increase with eyes and ears closed. AWD version maybe, but for others...need to really weigh pros and cons.

Tony Pac

We love to jump and make a conclusion....lol!

I am referring to driving and handling and TLX might not be BMW 4 series but way, way better than Accord. Don't get me wrong, I owned an Accord and it's a great car but I cannot imagine going from my TL to an Accord now. sorry but i felt a huge disconnect with the steering wheel, power and the uncomfortable seats.

Kense

Driving experience is not that much different nor is the interior quality for the price difference you can buy a sport suspension and handle better than the TLX.

mmcdaniel33

In the end one should purchase the car that best meets their own needs, desires, expectations and of course, budget. For many the car is an expression of themselves and is not just an impersonal selection. Thus the huge range of manufactures, models, colors, styles, equipment, and prices. Except for two Maximas in a row I've never purchased the same model, or even the same manufacturer, in a row. I LIKE different.

FYI what a disappointment the second MAX turned out to be!

I'm really enjoying the looks, performance and the luxury of my 17 TLX SH-AWD Advance!

AZuser

What 2017 Accord and 2017 TLX trims are you comparing? I do agree that the TLX is slightly better than the Accord material-wise, but I disagree that a base 4 banger TLX (MSRP: $32,000) handles better, has more power, or has more tech than an Accord EX-L V6 with Honda Sensing and Navigation (MSRP: $32,995).

You'd have to get the 4 banger TLX with tech package (MSRP: $36,050) to get some (not all) of the tech that comes on the Accord. And even then, the TLX still doesn't perform as well as the V6 Accord.

Acura TLX with tech vs V6 Accord

0-60 MPG: 7.2 sec vs 5.7 sec
Quarter mile: 15.6 sec @ 91.1 mph vs 14.2 sec @ 98.6 mph
Braking, 60-0 MPH: 122 feet vs 116 feet
Lateral Acceleration : 0.84 g (avg) vs 0.85 g (avg)
Figure Eight: 27.0 sec @ 0.74 g (avg) vs 26.6 sec @ 0.67 g (avg)


I've always compared a similarly priced Accord to a similarly priced TLX and in the end, the Accord always was the better value (to me) and it offered more too. Sure, you could spend more on the V6 TLX with SH-AWD, but then it's not a fair comparison (price vs price) anymore.

Keep in mind also that I was saying this before the TLX got the tech updates (CarPlay, Android Auto, etc) for the MMC. With the 2018 TLX, I may have to re-evaluate things. But then again, the 10th gen Accord will be out soon, so I'd be comparing the 2018 TLX to the 2018 Accord at that point.

JM2010 SH-AWD

We have a 9G Accord that we like a lot. It's an EX 6MT. It handles well, is quiet, reasonably fast for a 2.4L and gets crazy good MPG (easily 40+ on highway; combined averages around 30). It has lots of room, drives nicely and has a superb clutch/MT.

But as the OP says, it's not in the same class as the TLX in terms of refinement, quiet, driving characteristics, features, etc. Of course, it's quite a bit less money than the TLX too.

Some may decide that the Accord is their cup of tea over a TLX -- probably a lot come to that conclusion, especially for the price difference. But if you care about driving, refinement, luxury touches, etc, it's not a close comparison. (I'll concede the proposition gets a little closer when comparing a V6 Touring to a TLX, but then again the Accord's price advantage erodes significantly at that model level.

b4hand

Not even close. The TLX looks much better, plus has Honda's best N/A V6 currently.

BEAR-AvHistory

Guess the question is did he compare competing models ? The handling numbers on either in the test are equally average.

AZuser

Looks are subjective. I prefer the styling of the Accord over the TLX.

And you'd have to pay significantly more for a V6 TLX with tech (MSRP: $39,500) to match what the Accord EX-L V6 with Sensing and Navi (MSRP: $32,995) has.

So yes, not even close. The Accord still wins (IMO)

Speed_Racer

That maybe a more valid comparison with the 2018 model(no discounts), but the 2017's are being blown out with steep discounts right now. You can get SH-AWD Tech models for almost $10,000 off sticker which makes the choice an even more no-brainer. I got this quote from a dealer a couple weeks back:

2017 Acura TLX V6 w/Technology Package (A9) 4dr SH-AWD Sedan

MSRP: $42,650
INVOICE: $40,784.41

OUR PRICE: $33,099

JM2010 SH-AWD

Wow, that's a steal. ^^^

AZuser

While that's a very good price, it doesn't change the point I made that it's not an equal price-to-price comparison. You're paying more for the TLX therefore one would expect to get more.

The Accord EX-L V6 with Sensing and Navi can be had now for around $28,000. The 2018 TLX goes on sale next month, so it's expected that Acura would be blowing them out with huge discounts. Wait 1-2 months before the 10th gen Accord comes out (in September) and you'll be able to get a 2017 Accord EX-L V6 with Sensing and Navi with similarly huge discounts which would mean a $26,000-$26,500 price. Similar discounts were being given to the outgoing 2015 Accord right before the updated (MMC) 2016 Accord went on sale in mid 2015.

Nexx

no the accord is not better. just depends on what is more important to you.

dezymond

I cross shopped both vehicles when I was in the market over a year and a half ago, I went with the TLX for a reason. No doubt the Accord is an extremely good value car, but so is the TLX compared to its competition.

noclue02

I did a lot of comparison between the TLX tech i4 vs fully loaded Accord v6 when I am looking at replacing my soon to be broken 13'Accord. Test drove ton of times between the two. I eventually went with the TLX i4 tech for several reasons:
The exterior of the TLX is looking better, the interior of the TLX look and feel more luxury, the dual screen setup has a nicer look, the quietness, and my most important of all is TLX's seat are way more comfortable than the Accord. I can't say much about performance wise, due to the fact that I never had the v6 accord for a long road trip. Yes,the v6 Accord has more horses, but for me that isn't not important.
Coming from i4 Accord, the i4 TLX handle better on the road, especially driving on the mountain road (although I do like the v6 TLX handling more), and less road noises comparing to the Accord. I didn't care for Android play, the extra horse power, or the standard remote starter that the Accord offer at the time I was comparing the two.
All and all, it is coming down to personal opinions. You can get more for less with the Accord. Then again, you can get almost the same for maybe little lesser with another brand...after all, any cars can get you from point A to point B to point C. It's all come down to what you like and how deep your pocket is, and you get what you paid for (sometimes*) hahaha

Speed_Racer

It completely changes your point because you were explicitly comparing feature content based on price for a 2017 model. That's why I said this wouldn't apply to a 2018 but as of today buying a 2017 Accord over a 2017 TLX makes no sense. Will that change 2 months from now, of course that's possible and likely. Why not get a 2016 TLX (same content as 2017) for the price of non-touring V6 Accord while you're at it. . .

AZuser

We're comparing the handling of the Accord to the TLX as stated by the OP....

And in this case, an Accord EX-L V6 wins.

Handling is how well the car responds to driver input. This is a combination of acceleration, stopping, and steering/cornering.... all of which the Accord V6 is better at vs a similarly priced I4 TLX.

If the OP compared similarly priced Accord to TLX and thinks the TLX handles better, then the OP has no clue about driving and handling, or OP's definition of "handling" is different from mine.

If we're going to compare a more expensive TLX V6 SH-AWD to a less expensive Accord and say that the TLX V6 SH-AWD drives and handles better, then I could make the same argument that a more expensive Alfa Romeo Giulia or BMW M3 drives and handles better than the TLX. Where do we stop?

AZuser

Go back and read what I posted. I said the Accord handles/performs better than the TLX, and it has the added bonus of more tech. That was my point.

Better yet, I'll re-post it below....

Tony Pac

Clearly people are not reading lol!

Yes, I compared Accord V6 Touring (CDN model) and TLX SHAWD (Tech). I found a huge difference in driving and handling. Of course, in terms of material and seats, TLX has an edge as well. If we are talking about value, then we can say the same exact thing that people should buy Q50 and TLX since both cars offer a lot more value comparing to German cars. I am not talking about value here.

I believe if someone wants a car that has good handling, enjoys and appreciates driving and a decent amount of premium material will not go with Accord. Again, Accord is an amazing car and i am sure people love it for its value. I am just saying test drive both cars before making a decision.

Btw - those who are saying change the suspensions and etc to make Accord sportier....you guys make me laugh. You think everybody has the knowledge and time to just go and change their car parts. Don't forget, here we have a limited demographic that has the knowledge to modify their cars. You can't ask everyone to go change their suspensions, breaks and etc. Be reasonable.

hadokenuh

Premium car purchase is a very emotional one. If you put too much brain into it, it will be hard to justify the "value" proposition and things start to look nonsense.

"Better" is a relative term. Better for you doesn't mean better for me "Better" in what sense?

Tony is right though. The TLX SH-AWD drives nothing like the Accord. He's also right that not everyone will go out and swap parts. I am a car "enthusiast" but I am not that guy. Dealing with aftermarket parts sometimes can be a huge hassle.

If you think the Accord and the TLX (SH-AWD) is the same car, then buy the damn Accord.

If you think the Altima V6 coupe and the G35 (in the old days) are the same, then buy the damn Altima.

If you think the IS250 and the Corolla is the same, then buy the dam Corolla.

I could go on but you get the point.

BEAR-AvHistory

Who is the TLX competition?

iforyou

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Good post!

Another thing is, once you start changing out the suspension, chances are you get a stiffer ride. One of the TLX's strengths is its ride comfort from my experience.

mk5

I agree with the OP for the factors he is weighing. The TLX has some intangibles that the Accord does not that don't show up on paper. Also, there's the extra year/12k mile warranty of the Acura v. Honda (for those that it matters to). If that wasn't the case, we'd all be driving/considering new Civics with the Hondata tune.

Tech-wise, I think all newer cars are becoming disposable because the tech will be obsolete by the time the new model rolls around (i.e., 2015 TLX vs. 2018 TLX). I would never base a purchase on whether a car has this tech or that tech right now; the technology is moving along too quickly for that. Better to get what you want and just install some type of smartphone mirroring device that can be removed/changed to stock.

jduong29

LOL.. are you guys compare Acura TLX to Honda Accord is a idiot. Of course Acura is better in every way. Do you walk a Lexus dealership and compare it to Toyota cars? Do you walk in a Infinity dealership and compare those cars to a Nissan? NO! Stop compare Acura to Honda. You get what you pay for. Its like buying a shirt at Walmart and comparing it to Ralp Lauran Polo shirt. Just my two cents* =D

pyrodan007

Go compare the new Pilot Touring to the MDX, you can be surprised how similar Honda is getting. We never said all Honda models are the same, but the ones that have similar features (base TLX with no AWD vs Touring) are the ones people pinpoint as being a waste of money. The idiot is the one that doesn't compare shit and throws money away 'because Acura'....

The only reason why the TLX is so interesting now is due to the massive discounts. Lets have this discussion in 2 months from now when Acura will use full price and no 2017s are left.

hadokenuh

Let's not. Because you'll see the same arguments.

pyrodan007

We'll agree to disagree. But one thing is for sure, the upcoming 2018 Accord may very well further skew customers minds just like what the Civic did with the ILX. For the record as a TLX owner, I don't find it's outside the Accord's league. Accord+ is a fair comparison.

BEAR-AvHistory

Can't agree with this as an absolute. Go into a Lexus dealer & the ES 350 has a lot of overlap with the Avalon. The upscale models do not same with Infiniti.

Acura has no upscale models that don't share with the Accord, that's why the new Acura always follows the Accord by a year or two. Until the Accord is laid down & approved for production they can't finalize the Acura designs.

I think most potential buyers see this & its the reason why they can't sell the RLX. Its just too expensive for what it is. Other cars in its price range are not direct derivatives of the Accord & sharing the engine with the companies economy car..

ZipSpeed

I did cross-shop the Accord Touring V6 when I was looking for my next sedan, and while it was very nice (love the 19" wheels), I ultimately went with the TLX as I wanted the SH-AWD and the better materials in the interior. As long as Accord and TLX share the same platform, there will always be comparisons. But I think we're starting to (hopefully) see some differentiation between Honda and Acura under Jon Ikeda. 2018 TLX A-Spec is a step in the right direction, and I'm looking forward to seeing future vehicles with the Precision Cockpit, and a "lite" version of the Sport Hybrid / 6 cylinder turbo exclusive to Acura. Hey, a guy can dream, right?

F23A4

After my 14 Accord Sport was totaled due to a rear ender, I cross shopped the Accord V6 Touring, Accord EX-L V6, Q50 and TLX (2.4 and 3.5).

As much as people like to effectively label the TLX as some level of Accord rebadge, they're ignoring a number of attributes. For one, I had the best handling version of the 9G Accord, yet my TLX V6 FWD handles much better and rides better as well. The TLX also has a far quieter cabin which the wifey noted almost immediately into our initial test drive.

With respect to the 2.4, I test drove this model during the time in which my Sport was intact. The powertrain setup with the uplevel K24 and 8sp DCT is so much better than the CVT setup in my Sport. You can split hairs a bit when comparing V6s in both cars but there's really no comparison when it comes to the i4: TLX wins that hands down.

wilspainar

Where are these specials? There is nothing like that happening here where I live. Both dealers are charging MSRP still.

kurtatx

I'm not sure I would say the Accord is better than the TLX, but it's pretty sad we can compare these two cars this closely.

horseshoez

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Funny thing; this thread seems to be a rehash of a thread I read years ago comparing the 7th Gen Accord to the 3rd Gen TL, and that was a rehash of a previous thread 6th Gen vs. 2nd Gen...

To folks who are driven exclusively be price, the Honda will usually come out on top; for folks who are willing to pay for extra goodies and a few extra intangibles, then the Acura will usually come out on top.

pyrodan007

Correction, get a German / true luxury car and have fun with it. If money is no longer a deal-breaker, neither should the maintenance. Not this 'smart luxury' nonsense from Acura. Although that has changed a little bit with the A-spec.

CaliAtenza

The TLX FWD has the P-AWS system.

BEAR-AvHistory

Think the cost of maintenance is greatly overstated now days. Antidotal personal experience going back to 2004 & 7 or 8 cars is not counting tires under $1500 out of pocket. The first 4 years of maintenance is baked into the purchase price except for tires. Admit only one high millage 135K @ 10 years car but the quality survey numbers have the Germans moving up over the past 5 years. The number of bitches on the boards is way down since the F series was released.

People coming off the 4 year deal can extend to 100K miles for a reasonable price.