DLM1213

I don't think Toyota has anything to worry about for 2018, the new Camry will still be the number 1 selling sedan; V6 and sportier look. Not a fan of the "fastback" look, iPad mounted on the dash, the Civic rear end, the front grill looks like something is missing. The best looking thinking on the Touring model is the headlights, I think those look awesome and wished Acura would have used them for its models. I don't think anyone who is interested in a TLX would consider the Accord anymore, last year's model Accord, possibly.

Saintor

I may be disappointed but the one to watch IMO is the next Lexus ES,

EngineerX

It looks like a humpback whale very ugly lol Honda messed up big time.

F23A4

Agree 100% plus, I love the interior and dash layout.. Exterior design looks awful, subjectively speaking.

AcuraGuy2016

I am a millennial. Really like the look of the 2018 Accord 2.0T Touring and the tech/feature set completely owns anything Acura currently offers. This will be a serious contender if it performs and the seats, audio, and NVH are improved over the 2017.

I hope Acura really gets it together with the new releases. I DO NOT like the new Acura Precision Crafted Cockpit. The track pad seems like it would be distracting to drivers and hard to hold hand steady in moving traffic, plus I store a lot of stuff in that space. A highly responsive larger touchscreen with touch based Android Auto and driver HUD would be more than fine. Why does Honda have this and Acura want something else??

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

So I've thought about the new Accord for a day or so; my comments:

• Not enamored with the new look, but don't hate it either.
• I hate the fact the manual transmission is only available in the strippo Sport trim level; deal killer right there.
• What's up with these multifunction screens where you only get one information group at a time? Either Nav or Audio system or ???, but not split screen. Bad design.

alpha0

I am surprised that new accord with similar overall length as TLX has about 5 more inches of rear legroom..

crxb

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/aut...18-accord.html

Honda Unveils the All-New 2018 Accord

The New Accord Might Be Nicer Than Your Acura

07/14/2017 - By Jonathan Elfalan

Honda unveiled the next-generation 2018 Accord today at its offices in Torrance, California. For the Accord, one of the most popular midsize sedans alongside the Toyota Camry, the stakes are always high when moving to a fully redesigned model.

Honda proclaims the 2018 Honda Accord is the most dramatically styled, luxurious and fun-to-drive model in its 41-year history. Since we have yet to drive it, and photos say infinitely more about styling than words can, what we can confirm is how pleasant and upscale the interior is. Pricing has yet to be announced, but the layout, styling and materials of the 2018 Accord's cabin feel much more like Acura than Honda. And in some ways, it's even nicer.

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Front and center is a sharp-looking and much more user-friendly 8-inch touchscreen infotainment system. There are physical menu shortcut buttons lining the sides of the screens with volume and tuning knobs at either corner. Below that are the climate controls, which Honda decided to separate from the touchscreen — all smart moves in our opinion.

Honda's shift-by-wire push-button transmission controls sit next to the cupholders on the center console, along with buttons for Econ and Sport modes and the electronic parking brake. The Touring model that was on display featured nice-looking wood trim spanning the dash, with a small "N" printed on the passenger side. For a phone with Near Field Communication technology, this is the spot where you hold it to instantly pair the Bluetooth. Other neat tech features include a 4G LTE mobile hotspot, Honda's next-generation HondaLink telematics with new capabilities like emergency roadside assistance, remote locking and unlocking, remote engine start, stolen vehicle tracking, remote diagnostics, geofencing and speed tracking.

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Dimensionally the new Accord is less than a half-inch shorter in length, but its wheelbase has been stretched by more than 2 inches. Thanks to this increase, rear passengers enjoy 40.4 inches of legroom, nearly 2 inches more than in the previous generation. Additionally the Accord is wider (plus 0.4 inch), lower (minus 0.6 inch), lighter by 110 to 176 pounds, and more rigid, and has wider set wheels (plus 0.2 inch front, plus 0.8 inch rear), which fall in line with Honda's story of improved dynamics. And as with the new Civic Si and Type R, adaptive dampers will be available.

On the topic of powertrains, the 2018 Accord has three of them, but the 2.4-liter inline four-cylinder and 3.5-liter V6 from the current 2017 Accord are not among them. The base engine is a turbocharged, 1.5-liter inline four-cylinder (192 hp, 192 lb-ft) and comes paired with a six-speed manual transmission or continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT). A larger turbocharged 2.0-liter (252 hp, 273 lb-ft) is also offered as a replacement for the V6, and it can be paired with a six-speed manual or a Honda-developed 10-speed automatic. And lastly there is a 2.0-liter, two-motor hybrid powertrain accompanied by an electronic CVT and equipped with lithium-ion batteries.

A suite of driver aids, known as Honda Sensing, will be standard on all models. Those features include collision mitigation braking, lane departure warning, road departure mitigation, adaptive cruise control with low-speed follow and traffic sign recognition, and a multi-angle rearview camera with dynamic guidelines. There are other aids available that aren't included in the Honda Sensing suite, such as blind-spot monitoring, front and rear parking sensors, rear cross-traffic alert, and a driver awareness monitor.

Non-hybrid Accord models will be going on sale in fall later this year, with the hybrid model to follow in the first quarter of 2018. Check back with Edmunds later for more details.

KeithL

honda sees to be playing catchup up with the Maxima and other swoopy coupe like sedans with edgy styling that will not hold up with time. Dad styling will be just that. Take a 3G TL, it holds up very well 13 years later. Will this style look OK in 13 years?

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Comparing the looks of a 3G TL to the new Accord really isn't fair. Why? The 3G TL is one of the best looking cars to grace the road in a very long time, "An instant classic," I believe I read in one review back in 2004. So, to answer your question of whether the new Accord's styling will hold up as well as what is arguably the quintessential TL? No, probably not. That said, Accords, even ugly ones like my 2001, seem to be well sought after even when they get old.

mlody

The exterior might be questionable, but interior wise, it kills TLX, even the 2018 model.

FLYGUY31

Agreed. The tech in the Accord and the interior are so much better then the TLX. It's a joke. The ASpec should have had an updated interior at least.

slimm1469

I think it's terrific. 6-speed manual in a sedan? Super. I like the diffuser, the grille, the interior with one screen you can actually see without crashing, knobs on the radio. To each their own but I think you guys are selling it short. It's going to cause some pain for Audi's A3. Camry? Camry is the car for people who don't like cars,

AZAEEC

looks like civic on steroids

dezymond

Will need to see in person, but that interior is NICE.

KeithL

The 18 Accord Touring is interesting, looks like it basically is a TLX Advance i4. Makes me wonder what the FMC TLX will have. I wonder if they do. 2.2 or 2.5 Turbo for a Type-S and will maybe precision cockpit. And hopefully a bit bigger and dump the damn RLX.

AcuraGuy2016

I like this. Would have bought a 2017 Touring, except for the seats and audio. If the seats are more comfortable and they improved the audio system somewhat, the 2.0T Touring will be a serious contender if the transmission and engine prove themselves.

AcuraGuy2016

18 Accord Touring 2.0T is more powerful than the TLX i4, but yes, the 18 Accord looks promising. I think getting rid of the V6 allowed them to reduce the length and increase cabin space. Current gen i4 Accord has a lot of empty space under hood that is needed by the V6. I expect FMC TLX to be about same size as 2018 Accord.

alpha0

I hope Acura develops its own modular platform and uses that for TLX at FMC rather than using accord's platform.

BC01191980

Japanese brands are getting fuglier

dmski

Not feeling this design. The profile looks like a stretched out Crosstour and we know how successful that model was. This thing looks like something that GM would release not Honda. It worked on a Civic but this could be a big fail. They should've just improved on the current design and make it even better but no let's mess with our best seller.

TacoBello

I don't mind it. I think it'll look pretty good in person- just have to fix the tail lights, by painting g the solid red piece of them. It'll look 1000 times better, even if it does mimic the 2012 camry.

mapleloaf

I reserve judgement until viewed in person, but initially I'm not a big fan of the exterior design. Like others I prefer the current version. I think it may hurt some 2.4 sales because of popularity of turbos, but less so in Canada with the availability of the 2.4 in Elite and ASPec Elite trims.

As for the interior killing the 2018 TLX, curious on what basis folks are jumping to this conclusion - cuz their's one screen?

FLYGUY31

The one screen is nice and clean. Plus it basically has a virtual cockpit. It's just more modern and up to date. It will still look good in 5 years.

Saintor

The manual transmission still alive is a great news. I look forward my next car to be a manual one.

quantum7

The manual in the Accord is tempting....but they seem to pair it with the lower trim levels. I suspect it will be in the Sport with no leather, no heated seats, no upgraded stereo. I loved the look of the last generation Sport, but other than the manual transmission, the car was pretty bare-bones. Looking forward to what they put the 6 speed into.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I suspect people like the interior because it looks more European maybe. I'll go on record as saying I think past Honda interiors are some of the best in the business (except the 8th gen accord!), including my TLX. But I don't find the new interior design to my initial liking. I prefer the touch screen to be lower like it is in the current TLX. More to the point I think the two screen idea is great and lament that they've given in to all the hack car reviewers who complain about it because they don't "get it."

I'm sure the next gen TLX re-design is underway and I hope they veer away from the Accord and do their own thing.

wilspainar

It comes with a detuned CTR engine and a 6spd manual, I am getting this over the TLX. You can mod it to have over 400hp eventually while the TLX is stuck with the ZF transmission. Once Hondata and Ktuned comes out for it it will be more powerful the the TLX buy a mile. The rear looks like an Audi with that half hatchback look but I can deal with it. The interior looks nice but I would definitely want a touring for those LED lights.

Saintor

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2...ccord/preview/

" Like its 1.5-liter little brother, the 2.0-liter is also available with a six-speed manual on Sport variants. No fuel economy information is available for either engine at this time."

Tony Pac

I like the exterior of the current (2017) accord but the interior of 2018 is definetly superior. I think it's very European and elegant. The question is will it impact the TLX. for sure. YES!

BEAR-AvHistory

Thought one of the pro comments was interesting " the engine is a de-tuned version on the new Civic R 306hp". Personally If it can be de-tuned it can also be re-tuned.

Think one of Acuras crosses to bear is its always half a cycle behind Accord. With auto electronics moving ahead so fast the Accord is always likely to have the latest & greatest first.

Believe because of this Acura has to do a much better job in product differentiation then they have done so far. By 2020 pretty much every car regardless of price will have similar electronic content. Product differentiation will then come down to brand image, engine power - handling , "look" & either Luxury or Sport image.

TacoBello

parts of the engine have been redesigned, away from the CTR. You can't just drop a CTR ecu, and call it a day. I'd imagine you'd have to swap the head, and who knows what else, to get the full potential of the CTR goodness. However, that's not to say you can't extract more power out of the accord 2.0T. I'm sure Hondata will be able to gain you 25lbft and 25hp in no time.

TacoBello

no, you likely will not get 400hp out of the new accord 2.0T. You can try, but without extensive internal engine upgrades, you will greatly reduce the longevity of that engine. That is a lot of boost to be pushing through a stock block- one that wasn't designed to handle that much power. Yes, Mercedes bushes one of their 2.0Ts to something like 380hp... however, you're comparing a purpose built sport designed engine, to essentially an appliance engine, made to last long and be reliable over anything else.

However, I'm sure you can squeeze up to 50-70hp more out of that setup, without too much sweat. Pushing out 150 extra hp is a different story. That means you still end up with an accord that is putting down 300hp at the wheels.

also, consider the wheel spin with that much power up front. You will have to do plenty of pedal modulation to ensure you're getting grip. You're still good with 300 whp, but going beyond that will make things tricky. You can't just mash the pedal and go.

TacoBello

the 2.0T paired with the 6MT is the "Sport" trim, which is the lowest level of the 2.0T line up. There is the EX-L and touring models, which will have many more features over the Sport. In essence, the 6MT is a base level car, regardless which engine you choose.

however... I suspect we Canadians will get lucky, and get a nicely appointed Accord Sport, as compared to the US. The current Canadian spec Sport has several nice features that the US doesn't get. Honda loves Canada more than the US.

Rocketsfan

Well, I'm in my 40's, so I'm an old fart, too, and I think the Accord isn't so much edgy as it is just busy. Like a mutant previous gen Accord mated with a Civic. Edgy is a Lamborghini Aventador. lol. When I think "classy", I think the exterior of the new Cadillacs or something. If I were choosing between a TLX and that Accord, it would be "latest tech or entry-level luxury with last year's tech?" It'd be a tough decision for me.

AZAEEC

come on 40s are the new 20

BEAR-AvHistory

Interesting. Someone younger than most of my kids claiming to be an old fart.

neuronbob

I saw more images of the side profile. The rear part of the side profile looks too "droopy pants" for me. I like the 9G Accord's external design far better and I think it will age better than this coupe-based new sedan, for the reason I stated above.

Nexx

what cause it has the stuck on ipad look? no thank you.,

pyrodan007

Virtual cockpit copy (at least they have something), HUD, traffic sign recognition, REAL BUTTONS for controls. I'd take that every freakin day, twice on Sundays....
So the TLX has two screens, big deal. They're not floating on dash, ok fine. Do they add anything useful when not using phone paring? Nope. Other luxury companies do the same as the Accord and have only gotten praise. Not to mention that the second lower screen is useless when you have real buttons.