2019 Acura TLX 2.4 vs. 3.5

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Old 11-02-2018, 06:54 PM
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That is a typical dipstick argument. Early 2015 maybe some 2016 ZF9 had programming issues, that ZF8 introduced, 4 years before, didn't have in 2015. *Big deal*. Of course, that remains the preferred TLX trolls argument from kraut-mobiles owners who come here obsessionally only about this. How stupid. You should [righty] be embarrassed. I suspect substance abuse in the other cases.
Old 11-02-2018, 06:58 PM
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Anyway, regardless of how you feel about the ZF9, I definitely prefer the DCT, but every buyer on the market for a TLX should try both.

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Old 11-02-2018, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Anyway, regardless of how you feel about the ZF9, I definitely prefer the DCT, but every buyer on the market for a TLX should try both.
*Honestly*.

Now, you have a ZF8 in your nice B9 S4, which Audi chose over the B8 S4's DCT. You feel that you the S-Tronic was somehow better? There is no objective data to support that.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
*Honestly*.

Now, you have a ZF8 in your nice B9 S4, which Audi chose over the B8 S4's DCT. You feel that you the S-Tronic was somehow better? There is no objective data to support that.
There wouldn't be objective data to support a subjective opinion.
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Old 11-02-2018, 07:32 PM
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"Subjective" is precisely why Audi chose the ZF8 over DCT, isn't it? And the car is as fast in all metrics....
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Originally Posted by Saintor
"Subjective" is precisely why Audi chose the ZF8 over DCT, isn't it? And the car is as fast....
If Acura offered a ZF8 I'd re-evaluate. The don't for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
If Acura offered a ZF8 I'd re-evaluate. The don't for obvious reasons.
Correct: not available in a FWD/transversal set-up.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Correct: not available in a FWD/transversal set-up.
Seriously question, Robert: when are you going to start contributing to this thread? Asking for the rest of the board.
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Well the mirror is exactly on you. With your new desirable toy, how much time did you spend on Audi forum lately instead of trolling this one ?
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Well the mirror is exactly on you. With your new desirable toy, how much time did you spend on Audi forum lately instead of trolling this one ?
I've driver both TLX's.

There's not rules regarding what we drive now. I'm a huge Honda fan and I always have been. The subject of this thread is 2.4 vs 3.5. It's not super simple, but IMHO
  • 3.5 has a better engine
  • 2.4 has a better transmission
  • Obviously the 3.5 is the only one available with SH-AWD
Hopefully Acura solves this by putting the DCT in the 2.0T model with SH-AWD. That makes the most sense so Honda can put a more premium transmission in the car designed for premium performance.
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The 2.4 8spd DCT is a great combination!
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Originally Posted by tsturbo
The 2.4 8spd DCT is a great combination!
Right. It's a little down on power and torque for its segment, but that DCT is better than the one in the A4, IMHO. Now if they would iterate it to the 2.0T Honda uses in the Civic Type R we're talking.

240-280 hp and similar torque.

Then a turbo 6 for the big guns. Although I doubt that happens.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Seriously question, Robert: when are you going to start contributing to this thread? Asking for the rest of the board.
Robert is back on the BMW board, guess he just has to have the ZF8 he is pining away for.
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Interesting, Robert is on the BMW 3/4 series board getting hammered for knocking the Audi A4 in a Genesis G70 thread.

EAZY said: "The dash is ordinary. ***129324; what are you talking about. Especially from a Tlx owner. The virtual cockpit is amazing."

General G70 consensus is so far nice car, good value but they need to do something better on the dealer end to effectively compete.
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Seems like that’s an accurate assertion (re: Hyundai’s ability to compete)

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/05/...lost-momentum/
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FWIW. Bought the Genesis R-Spec Coupe from a Hyundai dealer down by Charlotte, about 200 miles out for price. Its been serviced (free maintenance deal) & state inspected at the local Hyundai dealer twice. Both physical plants & employees were 9 on a 10 scale, maybe a Southern thing. Would prefer for them to have unique operations but in both cases they were similar to the BMW stores.

Could be the Mega dealer thing, they both have Auto Mall operations & sell most brands including BMW, Porsche, Acura, Range Rover, Jaguar etc. On the R-Spec would swap seats with it for the COBRA in a heartbeat.


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Originally Posted by F23A4
Seems like that’s an accurate assertion (re: Hyundai’s ability to compete)

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/05/...lost-momentum/
Yeah, Hyundai has erred in their approach with Genesis. Too many sedans. They should have started with one sedan and one crossover. A brand won't work in the United States without small trucks.
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
Interesting, Robert is on the BMW 3/4 series board getting hammered for knocking the Audi A4 in a Genesis G70 thread.

EAZY said: "The dash is ordinary. ***129324; what are you talking about. Especially from a Tlx owner. The virtual cockpit is amazing."

General G70 consensus is so far nice car, good value but they need to do something better on the dealer end to effectively compete.
Not back, always been there.

This nut I was responding to needs to be on AZ dismissing the TLX , same kind of unfounded argument. Of course his "virtual cockpit" was a lame answer, It has nothing to do with the over-simplistic B9 dash design and pedestrian door trims I was mentioning.

Yes I do like the G70, although I find it funny that its 2.0Toy doesn't have better fuel economy than a 2006 325i manual. Kids don't care, *at all*. Stupid fashion again.

I still think the TLX 3.5 circa 2018 has a strong case, value-wise, even if not the best. Totally HATED the engine in the A5 2018 S-Line I was driving last week. Not surprised that the Germans extort their customers but imposing a 9-10K for getting a 6-cyl.

Unsure what the Koreans are doing trying to mimic that pattern. No idea why they didn't invest more in luxo-SUV business.
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Um.. cars generally also weigh more today than in 2006. All Hyundai's/KIAs are heavy AF. They have access to their own steel to use for their cars and they go to town with it. The G70 is not a sports car. They didn't care about saving weight. Getting slightly worse fuel economy for those who can afford a luxury car, don't exactly sweat having to fill up a day earlier than in a 2006 BMW.

It's hilarious you put cars on the exact same level in each category and make absurd comments regarding them. Surprised you haven't talked about how bad the new NSX is at rock climbing, compared to a Wrangler
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And um.. only Acura still really has a V6... For about another year or two. It will be replaced with a turbo. Just you wait and see. Acura isn't ahead of the curve. They're thoroughly behind, trying to catch up.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Not back, always been there.

This nut I was responding to needs to be on AZ dismissing the TLX , same kind of unfounded argument. Of course his "virtual cockpit" was a lame answer, It has nothing to do with the over-simplistic B9 dash design and pedestrian door trims I was mentioning.

Yes I do like the G70, although I find it funny that its 2.0Toy doesn't have better fuel economy than a 2006 325i manual. Kids don't care, *at all*. Stupid fashion again.

I still think the TLX 3.5 circa 2018 has a strong case, value-wise, even if not the best. Totally HATED the engine in the A5 2018 S-Line I was driving last week. Not surprised that the Germans extort their customers but imposing a 9-10K for getting a 6-cyl.

Unsure what the Koreans are doing trying to mimic that pattern. No idea why they didn't invest more in luxo-SUV business.

This account has been warned multiple times - on multiple subforums on this site - yet you choose to continue to be confrontational and antagonistic in your behavior. As a direct result the moderator team has issued a 30 day ban from this site for this user.
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Originally Posted by krish727
I am considering buying a 2.4 instead of 3.5 Acura TLX of the 2019 model. Being not so proficient in accurately comparing the 2 cars, could you guys post some pros and cons of one over the other ?

Thanks
Currently drive a 2016 TLX SH-AWD Elite. Have now decided to trade it out for a 2019 P-AWS Tech A-Spec. Would have gone for a P-AWS Elite A-Spec but they dropped the P-AWS Elite for 2019....sadly. Reason for change - transmission and vibrations. Had enough with the V6/ZF9. Almost walked away from Acura altogether but I still find the feature set and layout of the TLX at that price point to be very compelling. I take delivery in December. Will probably miss the AWD but I think the Dual Clutch 8 speed and P-AWS will make up for it.

Oh yes, test drove the 2019 SH-AWD Elite ASpec too. Had same vibration issues. Marginally better but its still there.

Looking forward to 3 years down the line for a more refined TLX turbo with AWD and dual clutch transmission. Please Acura....
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